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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 10:38:33 GMT
Anyone have an accurate figure for how many plays the National has staged by women, compared to the 18 they've staged by David Hare?
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Post by stefy69 on Jun 19, 2018 10:49:04 GMT
The Tell-Tale Heart looks interesting love the British film version.
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Post by vdcni on Jun 19, 2018 11:23:45 GMT
NT website says A&C starts in Sept at the Olivier. Since Hadestown starts 2 Nov then I'm afraid I have to give up hope that it will be playing when I arrive 27 Oct. Or am I reading this wrong? In the dates published there is a huge gap unfortunately. A&C is on 23rd October and then not back again until 21st November! |
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Post by Jan on Jun 19, 2018 11:25:50 GMT
Anyone have an accurate figure for how many plays the National has staged by women, compared to the 18 they've staged by David Hare? Well I could count them but it would only confirm your suspicion. A related question is how many women writers have had more than one play staged by NT ? What is the largest number of plays any one woman writer has had staged at NT ? (I don’t follow new plays staged at NT - I’d guess the answer is 2 or 3) ? The only South Bank NT AD who didn’t stage a play by Sir David Hare was Trevor Nunn - hence Hare’s animus towards him. At the timeNunn was appointed Hare complained “I don’t even know him !” |
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jun 19, 2018 11:32:46 GMT
As always, two seasons released (National Theatre and Sam Wanamaker)in the same week, wallet hammering week ahead, only just got over my Pinter splurge.
Should always look on the bright side, get to play the National Theatre pot luck again, what number will I get, and how long will I have to watch that man walk across the screen.
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Post by Snciole on Jun 19, 2018 11:35:43 GMT
Just seen Nicholas Le Prevost is in it too. Stop putting all my fave sexy voiced actors in this! I have no money
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 12:01:29 GMT
Anyone have an accurate figure for how many plays the National has staged by women, compared to the 18 they've staged by David Hare? Well I could count them but it would only confirm your suspicion. A related question is how many women writers have had more than one play staged by NT ? What is the largest number of plays any one woman writer has had staged at NT ? (I don’t follow new plays staged at NT - I’d guess the answer is 2 or 3) ? The only South Bank NT AD who didn’t stage a play by Sir David Hare was Trevor Nunn - hence Hare’s animus towards him. At the timeNunn was appointed Hare complained “I don’t even know him !” I think Churchill's had three plus a translation on the NT main stages, Buffini two and a bit (the bit being part of Greenland, which she may like to forget).
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Post by stevej678 on Jun 19, 2018 12:05:23 GMT
Imogen Doel is in The Tell-Tale Heart. I'm there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 12:07:35 GMT
Anyone have an accurate figure for how many plays the National has staged by women, compared to the 18 they've staged by David Hare? Well I could count them but it would only confirm your suspicion. A related question is how many women writers have had more than one play staged by NT ? What is the largest number of plays any one woman writer has had staged at NT ? (I don’t follow new plays staged at NT - I’d guess the answer is 2 or 3) ? The only South Bank NT AD who didn’t stage a play by Sir David Hare was Trevor Nunn - hence Hare’s animus towards him. At the timeNunn was appointed Hare complained “I don’t even know him !” Ok I found some statistics: www.theguardian.com/stage/theatreblog/2013/nov/07/national-theatre-problem-with-womenSo: Peter Hall - 4 plays by women in 15 years Richard Eyre - 7% plays by women in 10 years - so around 15 assuming the same number of plays produced as in Hytner's tenure Trevor Nunn - 10% in 5 years, so assume 20 So from Hall to end of Hytner, around 60 plays by women. Call it 70 to include Olivier and Norris. So - more plays by women than plays by David Hare. Suspect if you extended it to plays by men called David, they would win though. Regarding multiple plays by the same woman - 2 each for Helen Edundson, Polly Stenham and Nina Raine. Can't think of any with 3. |
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Post by Jon on Jun 19, 2018 12:08:06 GMT
The Dorfman is having a very good run with Beginning, Consent and now Nine Night all transferring. I wonder if Home, I'm Darling has a shot of transferring?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 12:13:17 GMT
The Churchill ones I'm thinking of are the original productions of 'The Skriker', 'Here We Go' and the revival of 'Light Shining in Buckinghamshire' by the way. Also her translation of 'The Dream Play'.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 12:22:10 GMT
Yep, you are correct!
So -
70-something playwright Caryl Churchill, written 41 plays, 3 produced at the National
70-something playwright David Hare, 71 years old, first play 1970, written 36 plays, 18 produced at the National
(my figures may not be exact, basing this on wikipedia and some are radio and TV plays)
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Post by Rory on Jun 19, 2018 12:48:52 GMT
The Dorfman is having a very good run with Beginning, Consent and now Nine Night all transferring. I wonder if Home, I'm Darling has a shot of transferring? Hope so. It looks like it would have commercial potential if the reviews are good. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 12:51:19 GMT
I also count about twenty four Churchill productions at the Royal Court and six for Hare. It does show how Hare has dominated the National Theatre stages at the expense of others though (presuming we think of a production at the National being the top rung of the ladder).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 13:09:38 GMT
As always, two seasons released (National Theatre and Sam Wanamaker)in the same week, wallet hammering week ahead, only just got over my Pinter splurge. Should always look on the bright side, get to play the National Theatre pot luck again, what number will I get, and how long will I have to watch that man walk across the screen. Must be getting close to a new Almeida announcement for Autumn too. The Donmar, I imagine, may be a little later, giving Longhurst a chance to get things sorted. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 13:24:35 GMT
I think we've got another Josie Rourke season to be announced at the Donmar before Longhurst takes over.
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Post by Jan on Jun 19, 2018 13:30:57 GMT
I also count about twenty four Churchill productions at the Royal Court and six for Hare. It does show how Hare has dominated the National Theatre stages at the expense of others though (presuming we think of a production at the National being the top rung of the ladder). You might argue that commercial productions of new plays are the top rung of the ladder - Hare doesn’t really need the comfort of the subsidised sector to make a living, he could do so in the West End. Churchill has been poorly served by the NT, several of her plays are overdue a revival (though not all are to my personal taste). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 14:12:55 GMT
Well I could count them but it would only confirm your suspicion. A related question is how many women writers have had more than one play staged by NT ? What is the largest number of plays any one woman writer has had staged at NT ? (I don’t follow new plays staged at NT - I’d guess the answer is 2 or 3) ? The only South Bank NT AD who didn’t stage a play by Sir David Hare was Trevor Nunn - hence Hare’s animus towards him. At the timeNunn was appointed Hare complained “I don’t even know him !” I think Churchill's had three plus a translation on the NT main stages, Buffini two and a bit (the bit being part of Greenland, which she may like to forget).
She might also want to forget Wonderland. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 14:14:53 GMT
Rona Monroe’s trilogy (The James plays?) also had a major production at the NT. I thought it was quite funny when they announced that they were doing 3 new plays by women writers and they all turned out to be by the same woman! I saw one of the plays and it was very good.
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Post by lynette on Jun 19, 2018 14:36:52 GMT
Perhaps less flights to Eygypt would mean Norris writing less begging letters about the drum revolve refit. Just a thought I’m afraid I’m also a bit 'why on earth do they need to go to Egypt?' to research. Shakespeare obviously felt ok with not going. And I’m afraid that Roman Egypt was a wee bit different to what it like now. Or are we updating? 'Sigh' |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 14:48:41 GMT
Did they "need" to fly to Egypt? How do we know Godwin didn't decide to take himself there under his own steam with his own cash?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 15:23:24 GMT
Did they "need" to fly to Egypt? How do we know Godwin didn't decide to take himself there under his own steam with his own cash? He might have. Of course we might also be in de-nile. I'll get my coat. |
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Post by Jan on Jun 19, 2018 15:43:52 GMT
I recall Greg Doran once went abroad on a City Break - I think with Sher - to do intensive research for a play. Probably why he’s never directed Cymbeline - no good hotels in Milford Haven.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 15:47:02 GMT
I think Churchill's had three plus a translation on the NT main stages, Buffini two and a bit (the bit being part of Greenland, which she may like to forget).
She might also want to forget Wonderland. So that makes three and a bit (also Dinner and Welcome to Thebes) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2018 15:50:25 GMT
Did they "need" to fly to Egypt? How do we know Godwin didn't decide to take himself there under his own steam with his own cash? I don’t think we’re seriously concerned with the cost but with the idea that he thought he would find Shakespeare’s imagined Egypt in the real country. |
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