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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 19:46:24 GMT
Mega excited for this one! If twitter is enough to go by... Ps. I'm at the matinee on Saturday if anyone else is?
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Post by peggs on Apr 26, 2017 20:03:36 GMT
I see it has a 'trigger warning' on the RC site (or maybe they all do, in these PC days). Can anyone who's seen it please confirm (in spoiler format) if there's anything icky in it? Will help me with my decision whether or not to book! Now I've been wondering that, don't know what particularly about the author made me somewhat apprehensive but I have a ticket booked so hoping it's nothing too awful although i'm in the front row so I tell myself I can sit on the floor if necessary (for some reason the floor always feels safer), have already had to return Guards at the Bush ticket that day for fainting threat.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 21:09:54 GMT
I see it has a 'trigger warning' on the RC site (or maybe they all do, in these PC days). Can anyone who's seen it please confirm (in spoiler format) if there's anything icky in it? Will help me with my decision whether or not to book! It doesn't really have a trigger warning, if you click that link it will take you to a generic page that basically says "we don't want to spoil anything but we also get that some people need to emotionally prepare for some things, so if you're worried, get in touch and we'll talk about it". All the Royal Court plays seem to have that link. Gotta be honest, it's nice to see a website that understands what a trigger warning actually *is* for a change...
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 26, 2017 21:42:14 GMT
There is some violence in it that is pretty full on and some strong language. I won't say more than that.
If you don't go and see it, you are missing out on a sensational piece of theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 22:11:11 GMT
There is some violence in it that is pretty full on and some strong language. I won't say more than that. If you don't go and see it, you are missing out on a sensational piece of theatre. I'm generally fine with violence, I'm just not good with gore - so it depends more on the type of violence, I guess...
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 26, 2017 22:48:40 GMT
There is blood.
Maybe if you're not good with it you should speak to the Royal court or I can message you- but to say what happens will be a major spoiler for you!
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 26, 2017 23:01:16 GMT
how's my imaginary boyfriend Fra Fee in this
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Post by l0islane on Apr 26, 2017 23:06:10 GMT
There is some violence in it that is pretty full on and some strong language. I won't say more than that. If you don't go and see it, you are missing out on a sensational piece of theatre. I'm generally fine with violence, I'm just not good with gore - so it depends more on the type of violence, I guess... I saw it tonight and I'm very squeamish and I was fine. To be honest if you pay attention to the characters you can see it coming, I did and looked away in time to miss the worst bit (which is a split second long). Don't let it prevent you from seeing this stunning production.
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Post by stefy69 on Apr 27, 2017 6:50:37 GMT
Mainly based on what is being said on here about this have just booked to see this at the Gielgud ! Thanks all.
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Post by foxa on Apr 27, 2017 7:42:59 GMT
how's my imaginary boyfriend Fra Fee in this He was good. I liked the way his character was written - it seemed like he was going to go one way, but then went another in a way that seemed absolutely right to me. He's part of the big, vibrant family. Great name too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 7:48:08 GMT
Thank you for the tips, everyone. If it's just a few moments that's fine - it's sustained bloodshed that's an issue. Sounds like I'll be ok. (Though I'll need to save up for the Gielgud - £65 for rear stalls? What a joke!)
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Post by peggs on Apr 27, 2017 11:58:45 GMT
I'm generally fine with violence, I'm just not good with gore - so it depends more on the type of violence, I guess... I saw it tonight and I'm very squeamish and I was fine. To be honest if you pay attention to the characters you can see it coming, I did and looked away in time to miss the worst bit (which is a split second long). Don't let it prevent you from seeing this stunning production. Yes thanks for the info, as a fellow violence fine blood not person it is always useful to know how long such things may last as you can aim to hang on in the sure knowledge that it will soon go away. That said I am now going to be anticipating it all through the play and getting nervous but people's reviews have made me think I should not miss this so will go for front row slump I feel and fortunately the friends I'm going are quite used to me having a funny moment.
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Post by addictedtotheatre on Apr 27, 2017 13:11:30 GMT
Bit confused by the RC website - it says 'Day Seats Only' - are these day seats available every day at 9am or just on Mondays?
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Post by foxa on Apr 27, 2017 13:21:02 GMT
Think it's just Mondays. But FWIW, I see there are two tickets available for tonight - so if you are quick....
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Post by Marwood on Apr 27, 2017 14:11:56 GMT
I looked earlier and there was a balcony seat for tonight for £12, but it said it was restricted view and I wouldn't be able to see half to two thirds of the stage. A bargain price but I left it, I've already booked front stalls for the Gielgud in June and would rather wait and see the whole thing from a (hopefully) good location.
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Post by addictedtotheatre on Apr 27, 2017 16:14:49 GMT
Based on the ecstatic reviews on here, I've now booked a stalls seat at the Gielgud. I'm trusting in you guys...
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Post by crowblack on Apr 27, 2017 22:46:05 GMT
I saw it on Wednesday and I don't share your enthusiasm. It was sprawling, even verging on kitsch, trying to take in everything in in so doing losing coherence, any menace and tension. It reminded me of Ridley Scott's Prometheus or the later J K Rowling or Philip Pullman books, where you feel they're so famous no one's telling them to hone it down - there was a good story in there somewhere but it was lost with the cast of thousands and the enormous word count. Take a look at The Searchers or Hitchcock's sHadow of a Doubt for how to portray a warm family setting menaced, but doing so with economy and ever-heightening tension, not puncturing it with repetition and folksy cliche (and cute bunnies). I had been really looking forward to this - I travelled rom Liverpool and had a front row circle seat - so no sightline or audibility issues - and after the promising start I was so disappointed.
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Post by crowblack on Apr 27, 2017 23:41:03 GMT
I see press night's next Wednesday - be interesting to see what the running time is by then. Standing ovation on the night I went, btw..
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Post by crowblack on Apr 28, 2017 10:11:41 GMT
Question - and can someone please put a spoiler bracket on this upcoming thought? I don't know how! - there's something that happens in the opening scene which I thought was a major and dangerous prop malfunction. It immediately pulled me our of the drams and instead had me thinking, oh sh*t, are we going to have to evacuate the theatre? Is this potentially dangerous? The way the hazard was dealt with made me think perhaps it was deliberate but I can't imagine many Irish farmhouse kitchens of the period had a large fire extinguisher to hand! I saw afterwards that it was in fact in the script, but it seems unnecessary plot or characterwise and I think extremely distracting. Even with the fire out I found myself thinking I hope that still-glowing ember doesn't set the rug on fire and I hope the actress doesn't get zapped by the electric cable she's handling. They're not thoughts you want at the outset of a play.
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Post by drmaplewood on Apr 28, 2017 12:16:52 GMT
Couple more have just appeared - got 1 for tomorrow's matinee.
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Post by MrBunbury on Apr 28, 2017 12:24:48 GMT
I saw it last night and I really liked it. Very good and solid play with an impressive big cast (the children were all excellent). A lot is packed in three hours and a half but that gives a chance to most characters to get some depth and shine. I particularly loved Brid Brennan and the style that as usual for Butterworth combines poetic tones, menace and realism. I would give four and a half starts to the production. I am sure it will be a big success (Olivier nomination?). The only downside is that it finished at 11 pm so I cannot exclude that a tiny part of the tension wasn't derived by my fear to miss my train...
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Post by theatrelover123 on Apr 28, 2017 20:16:27 GMT
Couple of circle tickets on the RC website for tomorrow matinee. Grab 'em
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 30, 2017 10:33:19 GMT
Loved this yesterday! There were moments of (intentional, I assume) confusion, but everything came together tenderly, and tragically at the end. I must say, after all the publicity, I was expecting the cast to be even bigger than it was! But everyone was pitch perfect and the kids were wonderful (I feel it's a bit of a disservice to call them 'extras' as they were all fully fledged characters - except maybe the baby ) On top of the likeness to Friel and McDonagh mentioned previously, I also found it reminiscent of some of Seamus Heaney's poetry, especially his bog poems, which I suppose enhances the poetics of Butterworth's language - saying that, he's always ready with a crude joke or two to level the tone, haha! As someone who was a bit nervous about the violence - {Spoiler - click to view} it's gun shots for me, I can't stand them, I find myself not able to concentrate on the dialogue the whole time a gun is onstage! - I didn't find this too bad. The end is so fast and a bit confusing at first as to what has happened, that it's all over before I really had a chance to get worked up over it. And, while the stage directions in the script are a lot more graphic concerning the amount of blood (spurting 2 feet and so forth), at the performance we saw it was barely a scratch, not gory at all really.
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Post by crowblack on Apr 30, 2017 11:15:30 GMT
The end is so fast and a bit confusing at first as to what has happened, that it's all over before I really had a chance to get worked up over it. I felt more gut-wrenching tension watching Dean heat up a tin of soup in Wish List on my last trip to the Royal Court than I did in this. I found the whole play, after the promising menace of the start, saggy. At times I felt I was watching The Waltons. I didn't feel that drumbeat of nausea I remember from the time -I'm Butterworth's age, and while I too wanted to marry Adam Ant, I was conscious of the horror of the hunger strike too, and the ever-preset threat of violence (bomb scare evacuations became normality, we had a school drill for them) - and I was a child in Liverpool, not Ireland. There's an expression from the Troubles, that "the dogs in the street" know, yet this sprawling family seemed weirdly insulated.
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Post by Steve on May 3, 2017 22:52:31 GMT
This is indeed the Waltons in the shadow of the Troubles, and I loved it. Some spoilers follow. . . Like in the movie Jaws, we open with a scene that sets up a threat which must become relevant later. Like in Jaws, the suspense created by the impending threat allows us to wallow in family scenes, while maintaining tension concerning what's to come. But while this set-up is effective story-telling, at it's core this is a wonderful portrait of a family that has been living with the Troubles forever. The Carney family are introduced like a chart of a human evolution, with the youngest and smallest introduced first, a baby, utterly unspoiled by the shadow of the Troubles, through multiple children of ascending age, through their parents, and onto the generation of grandparents. How sectarianism has infected (or not infected) the thinking of each child, middle-aged, and older person is delineated with loving precision by Butterworth. Mercifully, the pattern of infection is not overly simplified, so that Brid Brennan's elderly dementia sufferer, Aunt Maggie Far Away, who drifts affectingly in and out of coherency, remains as unspoiled by prejudice as the baby, whereas Dearbhla Molloy's Aunt Pat is utterly poisoned by hatred of the other, the English. Her hatred translates even into her view of the sole Englishman in the play, John Hodgkinson's mentally impaired, but physically able, Tom Kettle, who has been in and about the family for 30 years. What happens in the play I won't reveal (I'll leave that to the critics), but I found that I fell in love with this family and all it's members, so it all mattered. I particularly loved the energetic, instinctive Shane Corcoran, charged with an elemental electricity by the wonderful actor, Tom Glynn-Carney, and the vibrant Caitlin Carney, played with moment to moment vivaciousness and humour by Laura Donnelly. But this is a cast filled with well-drawn characterisations, beautifully realised, by the whole ensemble, from Brid Brennan's Aunt Maggie to Paddy Considine's lynchpin lead character, Quinn Carney, to Genevieve O'Reilly's ever-so-delicate Mary Carney (how she manages to look so weak and frail in every scene is a miracle of acting). For humour, Butterworth puts Daniel-Kitson-style-original-curse-words into the mouths of babes, a strategy that always wins laughs, and does so again here. I got a vicarious kick at seeing how much the smallest kids enjoyed getting the biggest laughs from their very adult audience, with each minor minorly corpsing at the roar of laughter following their use of expletives. Anyhow, it is perhaps true that this show weights too much to family shenanigans, and too far from the Troubles for much of the running time, but there are so many well-observed and amusing heartfelt moments, that I was always entertained. And within each portrait of each person, and in each action also, Butterworth hides a treasure trove of insightful commentary on how we become who we are, so that, while, for me, this is not as perfect a thing as last year's "Hangmen," it is certainly one of the best shows of the year. 4 and a half stars
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