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Post by couldileaveyou on Jan 30, 2016 19:07:39 GMT
Today I went to see the matinee of Hangmen and I really enjoyed it, it's such a brilliant play. I saw it at the Royal Court and totally loved, but I think it might have lost a bit of its sharpness since then. I really liked Andy Nyman, but I prefer the first actor who played the Inspector to this one; Sally Rogers flubbed a few lines and Bronwyn James' performance was not as great as the first time I saw her. Johnny Flynn is still a joy, tho. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy it and if I hadn't already seen it at the Court I would have never spotted these tiny flaws.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 0:11:19 GMT
Is it likely for this to tour? Was thinking of seeing the NTLive broadcast on the 4th March, but would much rather see it if it came round on tour, as I probably can't get to London. Heard nothing but great things about it!
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Post by theatremiss on Jan 31, 2016 1:47:37 GMT
Ive only seen it at The Royal Court and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Is the set the same at the Wyndhams as it was at The Royal Court?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jan 31, 2016 9:25:24 GMT
Ive only seen it at The Royal Court and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Is the set the same at the Wyndhams as it was at The Royal Court? yes |
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Post by viserys on Jan 31, 2016 9:29:13 GMT
Is it likely for this to tour? Was thinking of seeing the NTLive broadcast on the 4th March, but would much rather see it if it came round on tour, as I probably can't get to London. Heard nothing but great things about it! I could see it go on tour and also transfer to Broadway at some point, though probably not with the same cast? I expect David Morrissey to be a fairly busy chap with other engagements in the pipeline. And the programme mentions that Johnny Flynn is working on a new album to come out this year, so I expect he'll be wanting to go on tour with that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 12:03:48 GMT
Yeah, I wouldn't gamble on it going on tour, but OOH I am very excited to hear about Johnny Flynn's new album!
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Post by lolli on Jan 31, 2016 12:59:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 0:09:37 GMT
Loved, loved, loved this tonight. Wonderfully unsettling from the off, and the way it threw you off-balance throughout as to the nature of Flynn's character was fantastic.
Not sure that the actress playing Harry's wife would count this as her finest hour, as far as her mouth and her brain functioning together to deliver lines goes, but Morrissey was grinning like a lunatic at curtain call so I guess he had a good night...
Speaking of which, I'd always thought of Morrissey as being very tall - in which case, the guy playing Pierrepoint must be some sort of giant!
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Post by mistressjojo on Feb 3, 2016 2:17:11 GMT
Speaking of which, I'd always thought of Morrissey as being very tall - in which case, the guy playing Pierrepoint must be some sort of giant! David Morrissey is just under 6 foot 3 ( or 1.91m in the new language). So he isn't short! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 7:10:25 GMT
Which lines did Harry's wife fluff? I saw it at the Royal Court and thought she fluffed then; it was only when I read the play a month or so later that I realized a fluff was written in the script! (Something about a circus?)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 7:38:15 GMT
Absolutely, mistressjojo, 6ft3 certainly had Morrisey towering over most of the cast - but when Pierrepoint walked on he definitely had to tilt his head up to look at him, so that actor must be REALLY tall!
And yes, caiaphas, it was the circus line that tripped her up - something like "this place is a pub but it's more like a circus" came out as "this place is a circus". And there was a bit later on, where she started with "I have to fetch my husband" when there was obviously meant to be a line that came before that. If the poor actor was struggling with the circus line as long ago as that, maybe the kindest thing for the writer to have done would have been to change it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 7:39:36 GMT
Oops sorry, wasn't fully awake yet when I read that caiaphas! Was the second one scripted too? What a weird thing to do...
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Post by viserys on Feb 3, 2016 8:22:39 GMT
In the script the circus thing is written as:
Arthur: How long's he going to be gone for?
Alice: Well, I don't know, do I? This is a circus, not a... This a pub, not a three-ring bloody circus!
Can't find any line about fetching husbands?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 8:53:20 GMT
Thanks viserys - the other line was when Mooney walked in, after he'd had the conversation in the greasy spoon, and started demanding pints and asking about being a lodger again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 9:20:25 GMT
I agree that the scripted fluff does nothing but make the audience think.. ooh, she's fluffed her lines... So it would have been kinder to get rid of it altogether!
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Post by viserys on Feb 3, 2016 9:32:52 GMT
Thanks viserys - the other line was when Mooney walked in, after he'd had the conversation in the greasy spoon, and started demanding pints and asking about being a lodger again. Ah, that would be: Mooney: No, what, Mrs Wade? You're just saying "No", aren't you? Alice: I'll have to... my husband's upstairs... Mooney: Is he? Upstairs? Alice: Aye... Mooney: Good for him! Alice: I'll have to talk to my husband... (...) That part actually just comes across as her being flustered and stuttering in character. But the circus thing does sound daft indeed and should have been deleted. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 9:44:02 GMT
POLONIUS: "And then, sir, does he this--he does--what was I about to say? By the mass, I was about to say something: where did I leave?"
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Post by Nelly on Feb 3, 2016 10:28:03 GMT
I too, when I saw this on Monday thought that the circus line was fluffed. Perhaps it's the way Sally Rogers delivers the line? She corrects herself with such enunciation that it's like she's struggled to get the line out.
I did think the play was brilliant though and very well cast. One thought. Are we meant to find Pierrepoint making people sniff his hair funny? I took it as a show of just how powerful a man he was but the audience was in hysterics at that point on Monday!
I found the curtain call a little odd on Monday too, there was lots of grins and looks to each other amongst the cast and a few mutterings to each other. It was quite odd.
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Post by RedRose on Feb 3, 2016 20:30:22 GMT
I too, when I saw this on Monday thought that the circus line was fluffed. Perhaps it's the way Sally Rogers delivers the line? She corrects herself with such enunciation that it's like she's struggled to get the line out. I did think the play was brilliant though and very well cast. One thought. Are we meant to find Pierrepoint making people sniff his hair funny? I took it as a show of just how powerful a man he was but the audience was in hysterics at that point on Monday! The playwright intended to confuse the audience with that - was mentioned in an interview (cannot remember who said it where or when). Yes, we are meant to find it funny or rather find the characters ridiculous. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:12:25 GMT
I too, when I saw this on Monday thought that the circus line was fluffed. Perhaps it's the way Sally Rogers delivers the line? She corrects herself with such enunciation that it's like she's struggled to get the line out. I did think the play was brilliant though and very well cast. One thought. Are we meant to find Pierrepoint making people sniff his hair funny? I took it as a show of just how powerful a man he was but the audience was in hysterics at that point on Monday! The playwright intended to confuse the audience with that - was mentioned in an interview (cannot remember who said it where or when). Yes, we are meant to find it funny or rather find the characters ridiculous. Confuse us how? Not as he has done surely? |
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Post by peggs on Feb 3, 2016 21:23:17 GMT
Speaking of which, I'd always thought of Morrissey as being very tall - in which case, the guy playing Pierrepoint must be some sort of giant! I think it's still John Hopkins (too lazy to check so hopefully I haven't made this up) and he is tall, rather works that he is has to physically look up to Pierrepoint. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:24:39 GMT
I think Red Rose's second paragraph refers to the second paragraph of Nelly's post - ie we're meant to find people sniffing Pierrepoint's hair is funny/ridiculous...
I've been pondering all day what can possibly be gained by scripting a line that makes an actor look like they've fluffed it. If it was a continual thing - a character trait - then it would become clear over time and thus make sense. But it wasn't, and I bet 99% of last night's audience went home thinking the actor messed up.
Of course, in real life, people do exactly that sort of thing. So maybe that's what McDonough was getting at. But I've just always thought that in theatre - as on TV or in films - you don't tend to see it happen because it would just be odd and too hard a concept for an audience to 'get' in the required short space of time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:36:08 GMT
Speaking of which, I'd always thought of Morrissey as being very tall - in which case, the guy playing Pierrepoint must be some sort of giant! I think it's still John Hopkins (too lazy to check so hopefully I haven't made this up) and he is tall, rather works that he is has to physically look up to Pierrepoint. Yes, that's true - most of the other characters have to 'look up' to Morrissey physically (as they do emotionally), with the exception of Fry (rather closer in height as I recall, and more his equal in terms of having 'achieved something'). So it's fitting that Morrissey then has to physically feel somewhat smaller than Pierrepoint. While we're on physicality - anyone else find some of Pierrepoint's barbs at Harry a bit misplaced? Seem to remember he used 'fat' a lot - but Morrissey clearly isn't, and neither do I remember Harry wearing a 'big fat smile' at any point? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 21:55:43 GMT
I too, when I saw this on Monday thought that the circus line was fluffed. Perhaps it's the way Sally Rogers delivers the line? She corrects herself with such enunciation that it's like she's struggled to get the line out. I found the curtain call a little odd on Monday too, there was lots of grins and looks to each other amongst the cast and a few mutterings to each other. It was quite odd. Ha yes, I was definitely taken in by the 'tsk' sound she made at herself! I wasn't aware of any muttering among the cast at curtain call - though Sally Rogers nearly tripped over something onstage as she joined Nyman in the line-up, laughed and pointed back at whatever it was. I was just surprised to see Morrissey drape one arm over Flynn's shoulders and the other over Nyman's, with a great big grin on his face. (They grinned back, so I assumed they'd just felt their performances were particularly in tune that night.) He even gave the audience a wave as he left the stage! Last time I saw him on stage it seemed to take him an age to come out of character and muster up a small smile. So I'd just assumed he was the more serious type at curtain call. Apparently I was wrong! |
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Post by RedRose on Feb 3, 2016 22:49:35 GMT
I was just surprised to see Morrissey drape one arm over Flynn's shoulders and the other over Nyman's, with a great big grin on his face. (They grinned back, so I assumed they'd just felt their performances were particularly in tune that night.) He even gave the audience a wave as he left the stage! Last time I saw him on stage it seemed to take him an age to come out of character and muster up a small smile. So I'd just assumed he was the more serious type at curtain call. Apparently I was wrong! Morrissey isn't the serious type at all. Very similar after the Wednesday matinee I saw. They had the director back in last week, maybe they tried out something new or something. Also he was probably looking forward to see his pals Jason Isaacs and Sanjeev Bhaskar in his radio show that evening. And Andy Nyman was his guest the week before. |
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