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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 13:42:41 GMT
Everytime someone bumps this thread I get excited and think a cast recording has been announced or something haha.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 13:59:06 GMT
I think it's safe to say a cast recording wont be happening until at least after the full cast is announced and likely not until after the show has opened.
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Post by andrew on Oct 20, 2016 17:56:13 GMT
I think it's safe to say a cast recording wont be happening until at least after the full cast is announced and likely not until after the show has opened. Agreed. It's going to be well into next year before we get a recording. And hopefully by then they'll announce it's return to the west end.
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Post by r1biker on Oct 21, 2016 12:16:00 GMT
Missed it at the Old Vic, so just bought a ticket for Broadway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 0:22:34 GMT
Interesting watching West End Wilma's most recent video and seeing him say that there are murmors of it coming to the West End again, at the earliest, late 2017! Especially as it hasn't been setting Broadway alight quite how expected in terms of box office (note it hasn't officially opened yet though), they may well bring it back to the place where it really was a hit of the season. And if it wins a few Olivier's, that wouldn't hurt too.
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Post by jgblunners on Apr 6, 2017 0:54:35 GMT
Interesting watching West End Wilma's most recent video and seeing him say that there are murmors of it coming to the West End again, at the earliest, late 2017! Especially as it hasn't been setting Broadway alight quite how expected in terms of box office (note it hasn't officially opened yet though), they may well bring it back to the place where it really was a hit of the season. And if it wins a few Olivier's, that wouldn't hurt too. It certainly generated a lot of buzz during the Old Vic run, and as you say, if it had some Oliviers behind it too I think it wouldn't do too badly over here. Finding the right man to follow on from Andy Karl would be the big challenge though - that performance could make or break the show.
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Post by ali973 on Apr 6, 2017 5:15:50 GMT
Would be fab to get Tim Minchin to do it, now that the composer/actor phenomenon is picking up. It would be a challenge for him, but he's expressed interest in doing it in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 5:20:40 GMT
I wonder if they shot themselves in the foot by focusing on broadway. They have missed the chance to capitalise on the old vic hype, will probably lose their leading man for a london run while on broadway its struggling a bit and is unlikely to win a Tony
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 8:59:27 GMT
The night I saw it at the Old Vic, Andy Karl was singing flat for the majority of the show. It left a really sour taste for me about the show so it wouldn't be a bad thing coming back to the UK with a different leading man for me as I could watch it again with a clean slate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 13:42:20 GMT
I'd love to see it if Tim came in and played Phil for a short run. I think he's also expressed interest in playing Trunchbull or Mr Wormwood in Matilda so maybe that could be in the pipeline also!
I am so looking forward to seeing this come back if it does, it really was one of the best new musicals I have seen for a while. But how do people actually think this will do at the Oliviers on Sunday? As much as I want it to win, I can almost imagine it losing to others in the categories i.e. Charlie Stemp winning over Andy Karl, The Girls or School of Rock taking Best New Musical.
As for the Tonys, probably three words...DEAR EVAN HANSEN.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 13:54:08 GMT
I'd love to see it if Tim came in and played Phil for a short run. I think he's also expressed interest in playing Trunchbull or Mr Wormwood in Matilda so maybe that could be in the pipeline also! I am so looking forward to seeing this come back if it does, it really was one of the best new musicals I have seen for a while. But how do people actually think this will do at the Oliviers on Sunday? As much as I want it to win, I can almost imagine it losing to others in the categories i.e. Charlie Stemp winning over Andy Karl, The Girls or School of Rock taking Best New Musical.As for the Tonys, probably three words...DEAR EVAN HANSEN. I agree. It is nominated in:
Best New Musical Best Actor in a Musical - Andy Karl Best Actor in a Supporting Role in a Musical - Andrew Langtree Best Director Matthew - Matthew Warchus Best Theatre Choreographer - Peter Darling & Ellen Kane Best Costume Design - Rob Howell Best Set Design - Rob Howell Best Lighting Design - Hugh Vanstone
Of them, Harry Potter is going to take pretty much all the design categories, its best shot there would probably be lighting design? It had brilliant Choreography, and that is one that Harry Potter may not take. Director, again, cannot be taken from Potter. Mr Langtree isn't going to win. As good as he was (I really liked him and his Act 2 solo) but it would be criminal for Adam J Bernard to not win. Andy Karl is probably second to Charlie Stemp for the win, and I think if Charlie doesn't win, it will be Andy or Tyrone winning. But I personally would prefer Charlie to win, as that show deserved so much more and he was brilliant. Musical wise, I would chose Groundhog or Dreamgirls personally, but I could honestly, truly see it going any which way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 14:05:57 GMT
Actually, I say that about Andrew... Dan Burton was robbed of the win for Best Actor in a Supporting Role over David Bedella, and Samuel Holmes wasn't even nominated for Henderson, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if he won.
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 7, 2017 14:41:32 GMT
Fingers crossed!!!!!!
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Post by Jon on Apr 7, 2017 14:45:08 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at the Piccadilly or Aldwych, assuming the Broadway production continues to be successful.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 14:50:53 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at the Piccadilly or Aldwych, assuming the Broadway production continues to be successful. I agree. My first thought was actually, once I read the early 2018 timeline, Piccadilly after Annie closes up in January. And that would be a great theatre for it! Medium sized, not too big/not too small, similar to The Old Vic (Old Vic has 1,067 capacity, Piccadilly has 1,232 capacity). Great location and could have some great visuals outside with the digital screen. It could definitely have a healthy run there I think, especially if it has a run not too far from the Old Vic run as it can be "HIT RETURNS TO THE WEST END" situation and can work some great promo off that!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 14:54:16 GMT
I think its success on Broadway will largely depend on reviews. It wasn't selling very well over here either until all the 5* raves came in. It isn't going to get much (if any) Tony love in terms of wins because the competition is just far too strong. It's probably the strongest season for new Broadway musicals in over a decade.
I've predicted all along that the British critics would take to this more than the Americans (and certainly British theatregoers seem to have taken to it more so far) but I could be completely wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 15:40:15 GMT
Even if the Broadway reviews aren't so good, I imagine they would just use the 5* Old Vic reviews like the Broadway production is doing currently to market it featuring the *8 Olivier nominations" line as well and whatever Tony's it gets nominated for.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 15:43:08 GMT
Even if the Broadway reviews aren't so good, I imagine they would just use the 5* Old Vic reviews like the Broadway production is doing currently to market it featuring the *8 Olivier nominations" line as well and whatever Tony's it gets nominated for. Oh are they using the Old Vic reviews now? Well it isn't working so far.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 15:48:55 GMT
Even if the Broadway reviews aren't so good, I imagine they would just use the 5* Old Vic reviews like the Broadway production is doing currently to market it featuring the *8 Olivier nominations" line as well and whatever Tony's it gets nominated for. Oh are they using the Old Vic reviews now? Well it isn't working so far. Or at least they were before previews started, think it's just tweets now. The "so much fun it should be illegal" line from The Times seemed to be the favourite one to use.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 15:51:20 GMT
Even if the Broadway reviews aren't so good, I imagine they would just use the 5* Old Vic reviews like the Broadway production is doing currently to market it featuring the *8 Olivier nominations" line as well and whatever Tony's it gets nominated for. Oh are they using the Old Vic reviews now? Well it isn't working so far. They can use the Old Vic reviews for the London run, will work well for here. But I think it could do well to just come back here. And it will get a few nominations at the Tony's no doubt, which is always a bonus!
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Post by ali973 on Apr 7, 2017 17:57:28 GMT
For some reason it's not gaining steam on Broadway. It's a very competitive season there, but despite that, I see that all the new competing shows have a) a niche market b) generating a lot of press and coverage (not necessarily reviews, for those that didn't open yet).
Dear Evan Hansen has its whole parent/child audience going on Comet has the immersive factor and Josh Groban War Paint has the divas Anastasia has the mother/daughter thing going on Come From Away, I don't understand exactly the type of audience that would specifically gravitate to it, but it's doing well ...Groundhog Day has..? I feel that it had the potential to be the answer to this season's Book of Mormon: a musical for non-musical lovers and has a wider cross over appeal, potentially appealing to the bros who aren't into musicals. But I feel that they're not capitalizing on that, or anything really. ...the revivals are also getting a lot of spotlight with Glenn in Sunset and Bette in Dolly.
It's a good show, that's for sure. But I think there are mismatched expectations here. It did so well in London I think due to the lack of original and/or good commercial runs in the London scene. So when we got it, we all freaked out and were overjoyed especially since it landed here before Broadway. The only show that has matched it in London in terms of excitement and managed to be the "it" show of the season has been Dreamgirls so far, and although new to London, is a revival and not exactly "cutting edge" material.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 18:58:06 GMT
I think they got a bit cocky treating broadway as more important. its odd really because Matilda is bigger here than it was on broadway so theres more logical reason to focus on london first.
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Post by theatre-turtle on Apr 7, 2017 19:07:00 GMT
I think this might have worked better as a play. It just doesn't have very memorable music.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 19:13:22 GMT
I think they got a bit cocky treating broadway as more important. its odd really because Matilda is bigger here than it was on broadway so theres more logical reason to focus on london first. I guess the logic was 'American source material; should have a bigger American appeal [than British]'. Hence why it was tried out in the UK to figure out the feasibility of the production and to get a better starting impression in the US.
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Post by westendwendy on Apr 7, 2017 19:34:22 GMT
For some reason it's not gaining steam on Broadway. It's a very competitive season there, but despite that, I see that all the new competing shows have a) a niche market b) generating a lot of press and coverage (not necessarily reviews, for those that didn't open yet). Dear Evan Hansen has its whole parent/child audience going on Comet has the immersive factor and Josh Groban War Paint has the divas Anastasia has the mother/daughter thing going on Come From Away, I don't understand exactly the type of audience that would specifically gravitate to it, but it's doing well ...Groundhog Day has..? I feel that it had the potential to be the answer to this season's Book of Mormon: a musical for non-musical lovers and has a wider cross over appeal, potentially appealing to the bros who aren't into musicals. But I feel that they're not capitalizing on that, or anything really. ...the revivals are also getting a lot of spotlight with Glenn in Sunset and Bette in Dolly. It's a good show, that's for sure. But I think there are mismatched expectations here. It did so well in London I think due to the lack of original and/or good commercial runs in the London scene. So when we got it, we all freaked out and were overjoyed especially since it landed here before Broadway. The only show that has matched it in London in terms of excitement and managed to be the "it" show of the season has been Dreamgirls so far, and although new to London, is a revival and not exactly "cutting edge" material. I think this is nonsense. Come From Away is the musical of the year and everyone is just raving about it. Being about Newfoundland and 911 the piece has a raw heart and a story that resonates to the NYC audiences, Groundhog Day is also doing well with word of mouth and it's a huge film in the States - more so than the UK. Sunset finishes in June and Hello Dolly with Bette is a brand/revival of its own. The flops are Charlie, Amelie and sadly Anastasia. It will do a good 3/4 year run I think.
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