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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 14:40:26 GMT
I kinda just hope they have a (don't throw bricks) more memorable cast. For an iconic musical, I can't remember sh*t about many of them.
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Post by alicechallice on Jan 30, 2018 15:01:33 GMT
I kinda just hope they have a (don't throw bricks) more memorable cast. For an iconic musical, I can't remember sh*t about many of them.
Is that because people have already thrown a number of bricks at you?
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Post by Being Alive on Jan 30, 2018 15:06:27 GMT
I kinda just hope they have a (don't throw bricks) more memorable cast. For an iconic musical, I can't remember sh*t about many of them. You gotta be kidding right? Janie, Phillip, Tracie, Josephine Barstow - frigging incredible performances! (I liked Imelda but wasn’t mental about her). I’d be really interested to see this re-cast, as I have that memory of this run so firmly imprinted in my head. They recorded the CD Friday and Saturday after the final show and then Quast flew home to Oz
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Post by sf on Jan 30, 2018 15:36:12 GMT
Crap. That means I'm going to have to go and see it a bunch more times. That sound you can hear in the background is my Visa card weeping softly.
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Post by showtoones on Jan 30, 2018 15:42:11 GMT
Crap. That means I'm going to have to go and see it a bunch more times. That sound you can hear in the background is my Visa card weeping softly. You could see Follies 5 times for the price of one Hamilton ticket
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Post by duncan on Jan 30, 2018 16:13:10 GMT
Without getting into the in and outs of the quality of Follies and Amadeus, this to me just highlights the current paucity of ideas at the National.
If you want to revive a show for an extended run bung it in the West End like War Horse - the National stages should be for new productions and innovation.
I know some will say that by bringing in money from near sell outs with these productions that it will help fund lesser shows but it just doesn't sit right with me. Its trading on past glories when that's not what the National is to me.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 30, 2018 16:27:40 GMT
Id love to see Janie Dee and Tracie Bennett back but would happily recast the rest .
Love Imelda but she was miscast in this. As was Alex Young- she looked NOTHING like a Follies girl.
It would also need improving with the direction and choreography but it will be interesting to see who gets cast
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Post by sf on Jan 30, 2018 16:34:18 GMT
Crap. That means I'm going to have to go and see it a bunch more times. That sound you can hear in the background is my Visa card weeping softly. You could see Follies 5 times for the price of one Hamilton ticket I actually DID see Follies three times for about £1.50 more than I paid for my ticket to Hamilton last week. I live about 200 miles from London, though. It's not the theatre tickets that'll finish me so much as the train fares.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 16:54:26 GMT
I kinda just hope they have a (don't throw bricks) more memorable cast. For an iconic musical, I can't remember sh*t about many of them. You gotta be kidding right? Janie, Phillip, Tracie, Josephine Barstow - frigging incredible performances! (I liked Imelda but wasn’t mental about her). I’d be really interested to see this re-cast, as I have that memory of this run so firmly imprinted in my head. They recorded the CD Friday and Saturday after the final show and then Quast flew home to Oz Janie and Tracie, I completely agree, and were the most memorable parts of the whole thing. Imelda was there and that was good enough for me. The others, you could show me a picture of them and I wouldn't be able to tell you what they did in the show.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 17:01:59 GMT
How about this one?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 17:11:16 GMT
You could see Follies 5 times for the price of one Hamilton ticket I actually DID see Follies three times for about £1.50 more than I paid for my ticket to Hamilton last week. I live about 200 miles from London, though. It's not the theatre tickets that'll finish me so much as the train fares. *gasp* you mean there are people who live more than a Tube ride away from every London theatre and *gasp* that's why they don't see everything? But yeah my Follies ticket cost about 10% of a Hamilton ticket in the same sort of location. But it also cost me about £200 for the weekend there to see it...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 17:19:37 GMT
How about this one? OK her I remember, I thought her number was fabulous! I remember Travie and her leaving the party toward the end and thinking "please tske me with you, I wanna hear your stories, not these four" 😂😂 Interesting to hear thst they want to transfer it if given the chance. The trouble is the set is massive, so I wonder where it would go? Dominion? Palladium? New London? are the ones that spring to mind, but the issues with one like the Dominion is that wall would block off like half the audience haha. Also, could it sell a run in a large theatre like that? I doubt it could be a long runner, given its history of not being one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 17:32:15 GMT
How about this one? OK her I remember, I thought her number was fabulous! I remember Travie and her leaving the party toward the end and thinking "please tske me with you, I wanna hear your stories, not these four" 😂😂 Interesting to hear thst they want to transfer it if given the chance. The trouble is the set is massive, so I wonder where it would go? Dominion? Palladium? New London? are the ones that spring to mind, but the issues with one like the Dominion is that wall would block off like half the audience haha. Also, could it sell a run in a large theatre like that? I doubt it could be a long runner, given its history of not being one. Dominion - I expect Bat out of... to do atleast a year there. Palladium - They said same time next year, but Palladium will have its panto on so not there. New London - School of Rock, will that still be running? Coliseum?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 17:38:48 GMT
Casting is everything I think with this one and its long term success.
Did they ever even try this past run with an interval? Or was it interval-less from day one? Its interesting to read that the 2011 Broadway production did one preview without an intermission then realised it was better to have one so threw it back in.
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Post by sf on Jan 30, 2018 17:43:03 GMT
Casting is everything I think with this one and its long term success. Did they ever even try this past run with an interval? Or was it interval-less from day one? Its interesting to read that the 2011 Broadway production did one preview without an intermission then realised it was better to have one so threw it back in. Plenty of productions have had an intermission. For this show, it is never an improvement.
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Post by distantcousin on Jan 30, 2018 18:01:46 GMT
Elaine Paige should do one last West End hurrah and reprise her American triumph as Carlotta.
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Post by Being Alive on Jan 30, 2018 18:14:32 GMT
I was talking to a friend in the cast and they said logistically, the three theatre's that this show could go in to (exactly as it is now) are: Palladium Collesium Dury Lane
I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be a summer season (like the King and I) at the Palladium if it did Jan-May in the Olivier. It'd vacate before Panto... Obviously it could be the 5 week Collesium show, but it's worth more than that so I don't know...
I'd love to see it have a proper life, open ended. Elaine might be a way of trying to put big theatre names in it? I don't know.
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Post by Jon on Jan 30, 2018 18:19:44 GMT
Follies has never been a long Runner and I suspect it would die a death in a huge theatre like the Palladium
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Post by zak97 on Jan 30, 2018 18:27:53 GMT
Imagine if the National gave us Patti (assuming Company had finished by the time this returns).
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Post by showtoones on Jan 30, 2018 19:51:23 GMT
The Palladium is a good idea....isnt panto going in there again? Do we know which panto is coming this year from Qdos?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 19:58:36 GMT
I did enjoy this production but I feel it is just wasting a space back at the NT. maybe it is because whenever they do a new play it is goes terribly so they are just putting every show that was good back in. I think this would also work best at the New London as the stage is similar to the Oliver but maybe not at a larger house like the palladium as the show is t very commercial.
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Post by Jon on Jan 30, 2018 20:06:06 GMT
I did enjoy this production but I feel it is just wasting a space back at the NT. maybe it is because whenever they do a new play it is goes terribly so they are just putting every show that was good back in. I think this would also work best at the New London as the stage is similar to the Oliver but maybe not at a larger house like the palladium as the show is t very commercial. The show would struggle even at the New London!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 20:09:09 GMT
I did enjoy this production but I feel it is just wasting a space back at the NT. maybe it is because whenever they do a new play it is goes terribly so they are just putting every show that was good back in. I think this would also work best at the New London as the stage is similar to the Oliver but maybe not at a larger house like the palladium as the show is t very commercial. The show would struggle even at the New London! Yeah completely agree, maybe if it was a limited run for a few months but more based on the stage size I think the new London would be the best theatre for a transfer. If I think if fiddler transfers from Chichester to the new London that would be a better option . As well, I feel a transfer would probably not be successful as even though it sold out at the national it feels like that sort of means everyone's that wants to see it hasn't probably seen it and personally I would not rush to see it again so other people would probably not. Maybe they will do some Chicago style stunt casting Honey G as Carlotta anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 20:13:19 GMT
Drury Lane feels like the best fit, announce a six month limited season and it would sell easily. The only problem is you don't really want audiences coming to see it who want it to be about the Follies show instead of the human follies it focuses on, for that reason it's best back at the National.
Easily the best musical revival of the last year anyway, so it should be able to advertise its awards (it won its first couple today, for Cooke and Mortimer).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 20:24:32 GMT
Of the Revivals, this and 42nd Street are going up against eachother at the Oliviers. And if they are regular old Olivier voters, I suspect this will undeservedly win. Namely because of the cast and the fact it is at the National.
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