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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 20:21:54 GMT
Blocking people's way is certainly not on or following performers after they leave theatre. But knowing where various exits are is fine and if certain performers may leave that way isn't anything to complain about. A lot of newer venues have various exits without a defined "stage door" so it can be luck of the draw which doors performers use.
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Post by shady23 on Aug 13, 2017 20:34:00 GMT
I'm sure if she just said "thanks for coming everyone, I really do appreciate it, but I can't stop. I have to go and get a flight" there would be no problem at all from 99% of those there.
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Post by The Matthew on Aug 13, 2017 20:47:35 GMT
She didn't "stage door" because she wanted to get home earlier and get some sleep before early travel the next day. Then instead of that sleep she typed up a long post on "insta" about it all. She doesn't actually have to justify what she does with her time when she's not at work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 22:29:32 GMT
Maybe she typed it up while in a taxi back to her digs. Maybe she didn't intend to write anything at all but couldn't sleep so figured she might as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 7:54:37 GMT
Also it doesn't take a LOT of effort to lie in bed typing an Instagram post...also raise your hand if you've NEVER spent time pissing about on your phone when you should be in bed OR sent and ill advised message even when you shouldn't/should be asleep (not saying it was ill advised just in general)
And as someone who knows the layout of the WMC well, it is quite stalker-y of a group (because it sounds like a group) to be sort of laying in wait for her to emerge elsewhere. Honestly yes she should maybe stop moaning about people AT stage door, but I think it's a legit moan that people feel quite so entitled.
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Post by CG on the loose on Aug 14, 2017 8:43:57 GMT
I don't always agree with CHF but she's bang on this time IMO - if someone chooses to leave via another exit it's because they don't have either time or inclination to stop, which is entirely their prerogative, and they should be able to do so in peace.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 22:16:28 GMT
I mean, I just had to share this one... I found it on YouTube just now, and in fairness, Jenn covered her likely embarassment and confusion very well and seems to be a genuinely lovely person... someone got her a scooter.
You read that right... a scooter.
Yep... a scooter.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 27, 2017 22:36:00 GMT
^^ these people need to get a grip. The neediness and desperation is way off the scale. Nutella seems ok after this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 23:45:13 GMT
So she was going home on one and might have had to carry another home!
Obviously something she was into.
What is the most bizarre travel method any of us have seen a performer use I wonder?
I can recall Rupert Wickham - Jeffrey Wickham's son and Janie Dee's husband once in virtual Roller Derby gear as he was going to roller blade home, he reckoned it was the quickest way as he could cut through one of the parks.
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Post by d'James on Aug 28, 2017 3:40:19 GMT
Creepy on all levels. Don't encourage it!
Don't do a Cynthia; it goes too far when you accept a gift like that.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 28, 2017 14:10:06 GMT
I mean, I just had to share this one... I found it on YouTube just now, and in fairness, Jenn covered her likely embarassment and confusion very well and seems to be a genuinely lovely person... someone got her a scooter. You read that right... a scooter. Yep... a scooter. I just watched that again and noticed there isn't a second of "no, I can't take this from you", Jenn is straight in for the hug and then picks the gift up sharpish like she's worried someone's going to take it back. Are we sure this wasn't preceded by a "geee I could really do with a new scooter" tweet?
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Post by The Matthew on Aug 28, 2017 14:34:15 GMT
With the scooter thing I'm not sure what the exact situation is. It could be that they know each other and it's a surprise gift from a friend or relative, but it could equally be that the bit from 0:11 to 0:15 is a matter of patting down the crazy to check for weapons.
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Post by shady23 on Aug 28, 2017 17:45:25 GMT
This reminds me of the time a fan went to the stage door with a present for Rachel Tucker, a microwave.
Whatever must have gone through their head to think that was a suitable present?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 17:49:08 GMT
This reminds me of the time a fan went to the stage door with a present for Rachel Tucker, a microwave. Whatever must have gone through their head to think that was a suitable present?! I mean, if I was in Wicked and had a fanbase, I'd totally do a Jacqueline Hughes and tweet a list of stuff I needed... my fans could accesorise my house!
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Post by indis on Aug 28, 2017 19:11:53 GMT
This reminds me of the time a fan went to the stage door with a present for Rachel Tucker, a microwave. Whatever must have gone through their head to think that was a suitable present?! a microwave? seriously? 😳😳😳
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 28, 2017 22:07:53 GMT
I really side eye actors who accept expensive presents from fans. It's on the person with the power to set appropriate boundaries.
Someone like John Barrowman has the right idea, he says if fans want to give gifts to only give sweets (which are very cheap and can't be messed with).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 22:10:11 GMT
I really side eye actors who accept expensive presents from fans. It's on the person with the power to set appropriate boundaries. Someone like John Barrowman has the right idea, he says if fans want to give gifts to only give sweets (which are very cheap and can't be messed with). I agree, although if someone gives you a microwave or scooter as a gift, I mean, what can you say in response to that, you'd be too stunned to say anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 23:14:30 GMT
Some stars mainly glamour model types will have a Amazon Wish list which almost encourages fans to buy them gifts.
We could say look at all the flowers and gifts strangers give to the Royal Family, if we think that a fan giving a performer a gift is strange.
I wonder if Rachel tweeted or made a comment she'd like a Microwave for her dressing room to heat food or drinks - it would make sense especially on matinee days at Wicked.
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Post by The Matthew on Aug 29, 2017 4:18:51 GMT
if someone gives you a microwave [...] as a gift, I mean, what can you say in response to that "Thank you. I will put it in my Microwave Room with all the others."
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Post by adrianics on Aug 29, 2017 8:42:05 GMT
I went to Mitchell and Webb Live with some friends when I was at university, we went to the stage door afterwards (they're both pretty much exactly as you would expect them to be based on their public personas) and to my horror a coursemate had brought a cake he genuinely seemed to expect Mitchell and Webb would:
A: Find funny or endearing, or both
B: Keep
As it happened, Mitchell just paused for a second then signed it and made it clear, politely but firmly, that he wasn't going to take this cake. All very bizarre.
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Post by kathryn on Aug 29, 2017 9:00:31 GMT
Oh, home-baked goods are quite a common gift, in my experience. I've always told the people carrying them that I'm sure the crew and ushers will enjoy them, but there's no way anyone who has to be on a stage is going to eat something home made, because they can't be sure what's in it and how it was prepared.
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Post by shady23 on Aug 29, 2017 10:38:22 GMT
Some stars mainly glamour model types will have a Amazon Wish list which almost encourages fans to buy them gifts. We could say look at all the flowers and gifts strangers give to the Royal Family, if we think that a fan giving a performer a gift is strange. I wonder if Rachel tweeted or made a comment she'd like a Microwave for her dressing room to heat food or drinks - it would make sense especially on matinee days at Wicked. She might have done but, unlike other at Wicked, she didn't do it expecting someone to bring her one. She was pretty mortified and tried to pay the person for it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 10:40:19 GMT
Some stars mainly glamour model types will have a Amazon Wish list which almost encourages fans to buy them gifts. We could say look at all the flowers and gifts strangers give to the Royal Family, if we think that a fan giving a performer a gift is strange. I wonder if Rachel tweeted or made a comment she'd like a Microwave for her dressing room to heat food or drinks - it would make sense especially on matinee days at Wicked. She might have done but, unlike other at Wicked, she didn't do it expecting someone to bring her one. She was pretty mortified and tried to pay the person for it. Oh bless her, I can imagine that is the kind of thing that would make anyone feel incredibly uncomfortable. Not only is it an extreme gift to get someone for stage door, it is also unfair to put that kind of thing on an actor/actress. It can make them feel uncomfortable, guilty and embarrassed. Its not fair.
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Post by shady23 on Aug 29, 2017 15:59:02 GMT
Yes as I imagine the mickey is taken frequently backstage about the ridiculous gifts that are received.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 19:05:40 GMT
I've given chocolates and the like to people before, mostly in my "crazy fan" days, I don't think I ever saw any of them actually eat anything though, in hindsight I would hope that they threw it away once they got out of sight. Having said that, I did give some Millie's Cookies to Kerry Enright on her last Morrible show in Wicked in March (a week before she left on maternity leave) as I know she loves them and she later sent me a picture of several ensemble members / crew sat around eating them, so if you ever want to poison an entire production, that's your method
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 22:04:12 GMT
I would think performers would be reluctant to eat homemade cakes/sweets etc as they have no idea what could be in it. A sealed box of chocolates or even a bar of say fruit and nut they would likely feel safer with.
The gifts stories reminds me of an old Jasper Carrott episode where he did a sketch about Black and Decker and was apparently offered some products by them and he said next time he was doing one about Ferrari.
Some gifts are nice as sometimes a performer may have an interest in something and if the gift was related to that or something they had never been able to find then I'm sure those are appreciated.
I'd have loved to have seen Rachel's face when she got the microwave, I think it was a lovely gesture if she had mentioned needing one, if it was random then that is even better. At worse the theatre could surely use it backstage for staff and/or performers.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 30, 2017 0:13:08 GMT
I met Top Gear's James May once and he announced with great relish that he ate anything fans baked for him as long as it looked good.
I wish I was public-facing enough to get fans bringing me sweeties.
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Post by shady23 on Aug 30, 2017 8:31:38 GMT
When Ant and Dec were just starting out they loved fans bringing them Buttons (Dec) and Smarties (Ant). I used to see them all the time as they were always doing promo in the North East and I'd never go along without them 😂 They were very grateful. Ant likes the special Smarties these days
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 12:06:34 GMT
Chocolates can always be shared backstage, Flowers will brighten up a Dressing Room etc.
CHF has asked fans not to bring gifts if I recall, I think the rationale was she was on tour often away from home for a few weeks at a time so carrying the extra stuff around wasn't practical and she didn't want to leave stuff fans had given her.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 12:20:18 GMT
Chocolates can always be shared backstage, Flowers will brighten up a Dressing Room etc. Indeed! And while extravagant and strange gifts are a bit...odd, I think a lot of performers do appreciate some of the little gifts or cards they get from fans. We all love getting a 'thank you' for something and I think if you go into the arts/performing it's because you want what you do to effect people. So while people take it too far, I think we shouldn't mock the general act of giving a card or small appropriate gift to a performer who has had a big impact on a person. They might not keep all the gifts but I bet a lot of them keep most cards- something to look back on in later life etc.
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