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Post by theatreian on Sept 23, 2018 9:01:42 GMT
A great opening show with some real potential. Very early to say though!
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Post by Tibidabo on Sept 23, 2018 10:14:48 GMT
I like the new guy with the hair..... Well he can take his hair and pirouette off from whence he came as far as I'm concerned. I don't think I have ever taken such an immediate dislike to a pro before. I'm so glad Craig called him out on it being all about him. If Tess starts drooling on him I may actually go and chain myself to some railings or something. I only knew (and vaguely at that) 2 of the 'celebs' beforehand this year, so from a pretty level playing field I've found the doctor and Stacey to be my stand-out candidates for Most Annoying Contestant - and it's doubly annoying as they are with 2 of my favourite pros, so it'll be a toss up as to whether or not I fast forward the bits when they are being particularly annoying - ie. speaking. Wasn't keen on Lauren or Lee and I felt sorry for Katie and her nerves. I wonder how she will fair in the Viennese waltz with the fast change of direction with no sight on one side. I thought the standard was pretty high for a first week. I liked Charles, Danny and Faye but I didn't feel there was a standout. Kind of missing the Judge Rinder type of antics. I think Anton may actually go out in the first elimination - that was too stupid for words. Oh, and I thought Joe was good, but he looks alarmingly like my hairdresser who has actually been suddenly absent for the past 3 weeks and, strangely, phoned yesterday to change another future Saturday appointment...hmm...?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 23, 2018 10:56:54 GMT
I have absolutely no doubt that Anton comes up with this stuff under instruction from the production team who have clearly decided to take the piss out of susannah from day 1.
I do appreciate that these shows are cast, and that people are put into certain pre-determined roles. I really hope that it’s done with the celebs agreement and understanding of what will be involved. But even so, and despite what motivates people to agree to it (the money, presumably) the blatancy of it last night was staggering. You can bet your life that the ever so PC BBC would not put Lauren Steadman or Katie Piper in a position where they got ridiculed by judges or audience.
I remember when Celeb Fame Academy was on years ago and comedian Jenny Exclair was on it. She said afterwards that the whole thing had a culture of low level but constant bullying by the production team to get people to do things they really weren’t comfortable with. “Of course it’s for comic relief so you’ll be ok with putting a pair of knickers over your head to perform this...right?” kind of thing. I suspect it might be the same here. “Oh but it’s Strictly... you don’t want to disappoint anyone do you?”. I don’t like it 😑.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 11:07:25 GMT
I mean I don't know the woman, but it seemed Susannah was kind of going along with it all for a laugh- even in her VT she was joking around about her lack of ability. With her 'other half' Trinny rebooting her career (she's got a Daily Fail column and some kind of business) I'm guessing she thinks it's a good platform for her to do the same. I'd imagine the general 'here for a laugh and whatever it can get me' has motivated her and others. Also in Susannah's case, she's an old hand at the media, and probably knows full well what game she signed up for.
But I agree I hope there's some kind of 'understanding' when people are put as the joker. I mean Ed Balls was certainly in on his own joke, and used it to his advantage, as did Rinder and Vine- as it's usually the older demographic you kind of hope they're playing the producers at their own game and having their own laugh as well.
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Post by vdcni on Sept 23, 2018 11:11:24 GMT
Interesting first week. Very solid without anyone really standing out.
Danny danced well but seemed a bit subdued. Maybe more of his personality will come out later.
Kate was a riot, her husband looked petrified at the end, and should be a fun addition.
Lauren and AJ were decent particularly given the minimal training time they had.
Seann wasn't great and I don't think laughing at his 3 will endear him. Think Katya has her work cut out for her to match the last two years.
Vick was awful and Graziano needs to pull it back a bit. Given how low profile she is she could be in trouble.
Susannah was as terrible as expected, Anton looks like he wants out already and just threw in all the gimmicks to get through it. That said she should have ballroom next week which is surely preferable for her in a dance off week. We'll see if he makes an effort there. Oh and yes Ann Widdecombe did get 1's from Craig.
Charles is a little over confident and as suspected wasted on Karen.
Ashley was as good as I thought so she'll last a fair while.
Ranj was one of the bigger surprises so we should get a great salsa from him. With Jeanette's limitations that's probably it though.
Katie is the years oh the nerves contestant. Gorka worked wonders with Anastasia in his one week with her so hopefully can help her through it.
Graeme & Oti seem like a great partnership and he was better than expected. Hopefully they'll be around for a while.
Stacey and Kevin are uber annoying and she's not the first person to do the Quickstep as first dance. Hopefully gone soon.
Lee was nothing special in a dull waltz.
Joe was a surprise, think he might struggle in the ballroom though.
Faye seemed nice and danced well. Another trip to the final for Gio I suspect.
Hopefully the pre dance interviews won't last. Interviewing isn't Tess's strong point so giving her more to do is somewhere perverse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 11:20:41 GMT
How did little boy Blue get on?no one’s mentioned him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 12:16:43 GMT
How did little boy Blue get on?no one’s mentioned him. Decent! he had a little slip but the judges chose not to mark down because it was on a stray bit of glitter or something that wasn't cleaned up. He did a nice solid week one ballroom and continues to seem like a nice chap. So not standout, but also not awful. I think he could be safe enough to have time to grow into something good if his Latin is ok. Oh and apologies I called Lauren Laura above. My bad!
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Post by lynette on Sept 23, 2018 13:45:27 GMT
I also think the costumes were meh. Some of the dresses didn’t fit the women around the middle and they used the old short with fringes too much. Odd as the first dress for the pros, that deep blue in opening number was good.
i know the dress designers and makers are very good but maybe they need to import another viewpoint to sharpen the designs and frankly, update them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 16:45:49 GMT
I always wonder who has the say over theme of the dance - is it the pro, Jason Gilkison the director of choreography or the show's production team? My feeling is it is the show's production team as Jason seems to be more there to oversee the group numbers and as a former top dancer himself he'd probably not go with some of the cheesier ideas. For someone behind a lot of the show's content he seems to keep a low profile - the first time I ever saw a photo of him was when he married his partner and some of the pros were at the wedding.
I recorded the show so am watching it back in bits as you can end naturally after any dance.
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 23, 2018 18:32:04 GMT
I just watched the whole show in I-player.
Highlights for me (sorry not too good with the names just yet) was Joe (is it Joe? The little blogger boy), the gay Doctor, Raj, Kate Silverton, the handicapped try-athelete, Faye Tozer, Katie Piper and Stacey Doley.
Personally I reckon Charles (is it Charges? The guy from Holby City will be the dark horse of this competition.
Anton and Susannah. I reckon he's recognised that he's been given (yet another) dud and for a general audience and entertainment purposes is trying to disguise it with comedy.
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Post by lynette on Sept 23, 2018 18:36:09 GMT
We have seen that older women are not necessarily duds so they could have tried a bit harder to get Susannah off to a better start.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 19:00:46 GMT
I've managed to get through the opening pro dance (dreadful - what was the point of the water and the cobbles (lucky none of them twisted an ankle!) and where was the actual ballroom dancing?) and Danny's Foxtrot, which was equally awful due to the lack of Foxtrot or any form of smooth dancing whatsoever - there was more side by side than in holds, which should have been marked down as Amy should know better. That was worth a 5 at most.
The show better improve dramatically after this otherwise I'm not sure I'll have the patience to stick with what seems to be a now complete transformation into everything that's bad about Dancing with the Stars in the US...
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 23, 2018 19:11:45 GMT
iplayer is the best way to watch - you can just fast forward though the dreadful VTs and chatting. Focus on the dance and the comments.
Would be a much better show without the faff and Tess's inability to SHUT THE F UP!
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Post by callum on Sept 23, 2018 19:52:47 GMT
Anton embarrasses himself every time he opens his mouth... he doesn’t need help from the costumes.
Constantly answering back to the judges and talking over Claudia - think he forgets that he’s the one partnering the celebrity, not the other way around. Thank god we were spared him being made a judge. Would have got rid of him along with Brendan... dead wood!
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Post by callum on Sept 23, 2018 20:00:26 GMT
Other than that though - a great opening episode. Enjoyed Dr Ranj and Kate the most. Shirley is such a great judge - excellent rapport with Bruno and not afraid to really pick the contestants up when they make mistakes. Watched back her comment about Sean's hair. Fair enough when he was doing a tango, head movement v important in that dance with quick rotations etc and his thick hair waving around made it hard for her judge. Like she said, keep it down for the latin.
Also watched back Susannah's dance thinking it wasn't as bad as a 1, but actually, there is zero technique - all she's doing is literally walking and stepping so clunkily. Then again, no worse than Ed Balls' worst and even he rarely got a 2.
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Post by wickedgrin on Sept 23, 2018 22:51:44 GMT
Watched this on catch up today. I have been a fan of this show, probably from when it started, but for the first time I found this a LONG slog! The early shows have 15 dances to get through but even later on in the competition when the numbers have been culled it is padded out with filler with the couples getting to do 2 dances each.
I just felt after watching the first "live" show that it is so formulaic now with the comedy role, the sports stars, actors, ex pop stars, the stories of long hours worked in their "day" jobs, family members in the audience etc. that I could have been watching a repeat of a series from a couple of years ago and would not have noticed!!
I felt very sorry for Susannah who was made to look very foolish - very unnecessary. I hope for her sake she gets voted off quickly to save any further humiliation with more ridiculous "routines" week after week.
For the first year ever, I think I will just watch the results show on Sunday which gives a taste of the routines and the result!
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Post by stuartmcd on Sept 23, 2018 23:08:25 GMT
Joe's online social media presence is clear to see. On Strictly's Youtube channel most of the dances from Saturday night have hit somewhere around 30 to 50,000 views. As of this moment Joe is sitting on 531,000 views. It's a good job he can dance!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 23:47:35 GMT
Joe's online social media presence is clear to see. On Strictly's Youtube channel most of the dances from Saturday night have hit somewhere around 30 to 50,000 views. As of this moment Joe is sitting on 531,000 views. It's a good job he can dance! Well I guess we can almost just give up on any idea of it being a contest now then, unless he has an absolute nightmare one week and the scoring combinations end up putting him in the dance-off...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 7:58:45 GMT
It's all about Dr Ranj! Not only is he a nifty mover, he's as cute and funny as a bag of puppies AND he's been working the night shifts at the hospital this week. Oh and he helped a mother deliver her baby the morning of the Saturday show too.
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Post by wickedgrin on Sept 24, 2018 13:12:10 GMT
Joe's online social media presence is clear to see. On Strictly's Youtube channel most of the dances from Saturday night have hit somewhere around 30 to 50,000 views. As of this moment Joe is sitting on 531,000 views. It's a good job he can dance! Well I guess we can almost just give up on any idea of it being a contest now then, unless he has an absolute nightmare one week and the scoring combinations end up putting him in the dance-off... Interesting. It's the first time the show will have come across this massive social media following and no doubt the reason he was booked. Will his followers actually vote for him though? If they do, it will skew the voting and it's game over - keeping him out of the dance off (where the judges can vote him off) and then win the final?
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Post by lynette on Sept 24, 2018 19:03:04 GMT
Ooo how interesting I didn’t know about his social media following.
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Post by karloscar on Sept 24, 2018 19:16:09 GMT
Joe's first dance last year was the jive....Joe's first dance this year also the jive. History repeating???
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Post by stuartmcd on Sept 24, 2018 19:42:52 GMT
Well I guess we can almost just give up on any idea of it being a contest now then, unless he has an absolute nightmare one week and the scoring combinations end up putting him in the dance-off... Interesting. It's the first time the show will have come across this massive social media following and no doubt the reason he was booked. Will his followers actually vote for him though? If they do, it will skew the voting and it's game over - keeping him out of the dance off (where the judges can vote him off) and then win the final? Now up at 809,000 views! Now bare in mind that the Strictly Youtube channel only has 123,000 subscribers so there's hundreds of thousands of people specifically seeking out Joe's video. If he can encourage all of his followers to vote for free online then he pretty much has this in the bag.
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Post by wickedgrin on Sept 24, 2018 19:49:42 GMT
Now up at 809,000 views! Now bare in mind that the Strictly Youtube channel only has 123,000 subscribers so there's hundreds of thousands of people specifically seeking out Joe's video. If he can encourage all of his followers to vote for free online then he pretty much has this in the bag. He doesn't even need all of them - a percentage will do! If he stays in over perceived better dancers week after week I can see it becoming an issue with the other contestants and the voting public. Watch this space!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 9:26:45 GMT
Interesting. It's the first time the show will have come across this massive social media following and no doubt the reason he was booked. Will his followers actually vote for him though? If they do, it will skew the voting and it's game over - keeping him out of the dance off (where the judges can vote him off) and then win the final? Now up at 809,000 views! Now bare in mind that the Strictly Youtube channel only has 123,000 subscribers so there's hundreds of thousands of people specifically seeking out Joe's video. If he can encourage all of his followers to vote for free online then he pretty much has this in the bag. I had a feeling that would happen as soon as he was announced. Seems to be a nice enough guy, and he was one of the best of a pretty terrible set of dances on Saturday, though that's really not saying much. I don't consider him to be a celebrity so the thought of him winning doesn't really sit well with me, especially if he does it over some far superior dancers - it's happened in the past and it's always a shame for me when the final doesn't contain the best dancers, even if they don't win. Thankfully it doesn't look as if I'll be massively invested in this series anyway - after all the promise of the launch show there were only 3 dances I really enjoyed on Saturday (Lauren, Graeme and Faye) and it seemed as if pretty much all the pros apart from AJ, Oti and Giovanni had forgotten how to actually choreograph the dance they were supposed to be doing and gone for disco (Latin) or American Smooth (ballroom) instead - really unimpressed.
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