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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 9:15:11 GMT
Problem is, because he calls himself Thatcher Joe, he looses as many votes as he gains! That is because he used to be a thatcher to earn a living. Last year, he demonstrated thatching techniques to Prince Charles... See I'm learning fun facts already! I have a passing knowledge of him via a passing knowledge of Zoella et al I can't be arsed re-hasing an argument about youtubers, but my 2p would be that they are more 'self made' than other 'reality' stars so that should count for something. (also that youtube is a really creative medium, and frankly where all the kids are at so someone in BBC casting has their head screwed on right) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 9:20:59 GMT
I really don't understand why people who make YouTube videos are considered "celebrities" - they're often not demonstrating any particular talent whatsoever apart from using a make-up brush...
Maybe I'm old and cynical, but I don't think they deserve the title "celebrity" at all, never mind that half of them would turn up for the opening of an envelope if it got them some freebies.
Not impressed by this casting at all.
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Post by kimbahorel on Aug 14, 2018 9:27:33 GMT
4th announced is Joe Sugg a youtuber. I actually know who that is.
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Post by wickedgrin on Aug 14, 2018 9:29:54 GMT
As these celebs use Strictly as a platform for their talents, I am surprised that last years winner Joe McFadden has not got a lead in a musical out of it (I remember seeing him in She Loves Me at Chichester - so well qualified). Miss Burke (whatever anyone may think of her) has got a part in a high profile production of Chess and a lead in Chicago in the WE and later to lead a tour of the BodyGuard again, all within 12 months!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 14, 2018 9:30:11 GMT
Joe Sugg has over 8 million subscribers on his main channel - his videos attract audience into the millions.
I don't think he has much in the way of discernible talent - but people still like to watch him on screen.
The size of his audience does give him a profile and a platform. When people have chosen to click on your videos millions and millions of times, they have made an active choice to watch you - that is a lot more than many celebrities can claim.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 14, 2018 9:32:10 GMT
As these celebs use Strictly as a platform for their talents, I am surprised that last years winner Joe McFadden has not got a lead in a musical out of it (I remember seeing him in She Loves Me at Chichester - so well qualified). Miss Burke (whatever anyone may think of her) has got a part in a high profile production of Chess and a lead in Chicago in the WE and later to lead a tour of the BodyGuard again, all within 12 months! I suspect she would have been in the frame for at least 2 of those without Strictly. Probably all three. McFadden played it wrong. He should sack his agent - who has clearly not helped him cash in on his success. |
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Post by wickedgrin on Aug 14, 2018 9:33:10 GMT
This You Tubing is a bit of a mystery to me, but hats off to the casting department of Strictly for getting someone that the kids know and potentially broadening the audience for the show! If all 8 million of his subscribers watch - that's the viewing figures for this series sorted!!!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 14, 2018 9:39:44 GMT
This You Tubing is a bit of a mystery to me, but hats off to the casting department of Strictly for getting someone that the kids know and potentially broadening the audience for the show! If all 8 million of his subscribers watch - that's the viewing figures for this series sorted!!! Sadly for the BBC (and Mr Sugg), a lot of his viewers are not UK-based and thus can't vote - but it is still a smart move on the part of the producers to at least try to engage a different demographic. Sugg (unlike his sister and her other half, Alfie) has managed, so far, to avoid major controversy. Zoe came undone last Christmas for her £50 advent calendar. Alfie recently got a lot of backlash for showing how he could live on £1 a day. Both have somewhat reduced their output since then and have certainly lost followers. Joe Sugg doesn't seem to have caused major upset so far and has recently set up a new agency to help newer YouTubers achieve their goals. He does, at this stage, appear to be one of the good guys. (yes, I watch far too much YouTube!) |
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Post by tysilio2 on Aug 14, 2018 9:39:51 GMT
Problem is, because he calls himself Thatcher Joe, he looses as many votes as he gains! That is because he used to be a thatcher to earn a living. Last year, he demonstrated thatching techniques to Prince Charles... So did he used to work at the Belgravia Hair Clinic for Follically Challenged Men...? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 10:48:12 GMT
Joe Sugg has nice hair. J'approve.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 14:25:31 GMT
Not sure about YouTubers I wonder what the likes of Craig will think about that. I wonder if he'll be described as "Social Media Personality" when he is introduced.
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Post by theatreian on Aug 14, 2018 15:11:16 GMT
I would hope the subsequent announcements may at least be 'stars' that more of the population have heard of. Announcing these 4 first with the exception of Faye Tozer strikes me of a desperation to fill places as was rumoured in the press.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 14, 2018 15:27:41 GMT
The very few “vloggers” whose output I’ve seen have all developed the skill of very fast editing so barely a sentence is uttered without there being an edit in it. CHF is a master at it. It suggests that they’re incapable of doing a piece to camera at normal speed without fluffing, or sounding boring. Not exactly the stuff that celebrities are usually made of.
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Post by longinthetooth on Aug 14, 2018 15:28:31 GMT
4th announced is Joe Sugg a youtuber. I actually know who that is. … and this is the first one so far where I have said, "who?" But then, I am an oldie ….. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 15:29:46 GMT
I would hope the subsequent announcements may at least be 'stars' that more of the population have heard of. Announcing these 4 first with the exception of Faye Tozer strikes me of a desperation to fill places as was rumoured in the press. To be fair, more people watch Joe Suggs' YouTube channel thingy than watch last years winner Joe McFadden's 'Holby City' or bought last years runner-up Alexandra Burke's last album. I think he's possibly better known to "the youth" and is there to bring in a new audience. To them he's probably a much bigger star than Katie Piper, Faye Tozer and Danny John-Jules (who to be fair I couldn't have picked out of a line-up either). |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 14, 2018 15:32:37 GMT
4th announced is Joe Sugg a youtuber. I actually know who that is. … and this is the first one so far where I have said, "who?" But then, I am an oldie ….. Don’t you worry longinthetooth we’re entitled to not know, and not to have to google it. But don’t forget next time, it’s upper case and an eye roll like this ”WHO?? 🙄”. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 14, 2018 16:05:25 GMT
For those who don't know Joe Sugg - this is his video announcing his participation to his followers:
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Post by kimbahorel on Aug 14, 2018 17:47:43 GMT
4th announced is Joe Sugg a youtuber. I actually know who that is. … and this is the first one so far where I have said, "who?" But then, I am an oldie ….. I meant more I shouldn't know who it is but I do 😳 |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 15, 2018 8:56:05 GMT
Now I normally do know the celebs in some way it who on earth is Vick Hope?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 9:06:16 GMT
I had to google this one, DJ on Capital FM it seems....so probably a mystery to those outside London/who don't listen to commercial radio (which you'd think the BBC would hope it was most of it's viewers no?)
Anyway she's young she's cute, maybe she really wants to be in musicals instead?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 15, 2018 9:17:42 GMT
I hadn't really heard of Capital FM - so even after googling her, I was none the wiser.
She must have a very effective agent/PR team to land this gig.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 9:48:25 GMT
Second day in a row that my reaction has been "who?"
I guess they need someone for the obligatory "professional dancer gets up at 4am to see their celebrity partner do their radio show and is exhausted by the end of the day and doesn't know how their partner is managing to balance both job and Strictly" VT.
Hopefully she'll have some natural musicality though. Bet she get partnered with AJ so they can try to conjure up a showmance again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 11:30:40 GMT
Vick Hope's name was mentioned in the mix last week but I must admit I hadn't heard of her. A slightly strange choice given she works for a commercial radio station, if the BBC wanted someone from her demographic why not go to Radio 1 or One Xtra etc.
Nothing against the girl, she is an attractive young lady and might be a good dancer but I've never really heard of her.
We talk about gender, age and race stereotyping but each year Strictly will always look for a similar diverse range of contestants.
We have yet to have this year's gay contestants revealed, the comedy ones, the fuller figures, the eye candy both male and female and maybe the classier older lady who can actually dance.
We have the backstory/inspiration - Katie Piper
Pop star, slightly older woman, gay following - Faye
Older guy, black, who will likely be entertaining and can likely dance - Danny
Younger Social Media Guy - Joe
Mixed race woman, heightening her profile and bringing some glamour - Vick
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 15, 2018 11:33:45 GMT
WHO?? 🙄
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Post by wickedgrin on Aug 15, 2018 12:00:39 GMT
Let's hope there are some bigger names announced shortly.
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