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Post by richey on Jul 27, 2021 20:50:12 GMT
Judging by Steve10086's second post I really think those reacting to the 'no candelabra' post may want to calm down a little This might just be me being daft (which is a common occurane with me) but I don't see what the second post has to do with the 'no candelabra' one? Well maybe not everything posted online is true?
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Post by westendboy on Jul 27, 2021 20:51:09 GMT
Just read on Facebook that no candelabra rises, just candles.
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Post by steve10086 on Jul 27, 2021 21:21:41 GMT
False alarm everyone!!!
Candelabra in Act II, so suspect a malfunction in Act I
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 27, 2021 21:25:19 GMT
And when did Piangi turn gay? 🏳️🌈 Seriously? What about his relationship with Carlotta? Have they got rid of that? If so then for me that's far more of a problematic change than whether or not the candelabra appear.
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Post by westendboy on Jul 27, 2021 21:26:12 GMT
False alarm everyone!!! Candelabra in Act II, so suspect a malfunction in Act I Well that's a relief!
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Post by westendboy on Jul 27, 2021 21:28:36 GMT
And when did Piangi turn gay? 🏳️🌈 Did they really do that? I wonder how they handle his relationship with Carlotta? Seems like a strange choice.
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 27, 2021 21:44:55 GMT
This is Her Majesty's new safety curtain. Fits more with the show i guess.. Fine for a safety curtain. The proscenium makes me feel ill. Not a lot of mask wearers in the audience, which is a bit alarming. Is it optional or is it the rule of the theatre to have it on? You can't enforce something that isn't the law anymore, so no. People will make their own choices from now on. As it should be.
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Post by westendboy on Jul 27, 2021 21:57:40 GMT
Something interesting someone on twitter posted.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2021 22:01:58 GMT
Fine for a safety curtain. The proscenium makes me feel ill. Not a lot of mask wearers in the audience, which is a bit alarming. Is it optional or is it the rule of the theatre to have it on? You can't enforce something that isn't the law anymore, so no. People will make their own choices from now on. As it should be. No actually. If you aren’t exempt- not wearing a mask inside a theatre shows huge selfishness and disregard to the audience and the actors and crew. One covid case shuts down a show. WEAR A DAMN MASK or don’t go to the theatre.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2021 22:03:23 GMT
Also that photo just looks tragic.
They are really saying this is better than the original design? Why were they waffling on about ‘ blurring the boundary between stage and auditorium’? This has done the opposite.
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Post by distantcousin on Jul 27, 2021 22:05:20 GMT
You can't enforce something that isn't the law anymore, so no. People will make their own choices from now on. As it should be. No actually. If you aren’t exempt- not wearing a mask inside a theatre shows huge selfishness and disregard to the audience and the actors and crew. One covid case shuts down a show. WEAR A DAMN MASK or don’t go to the theatre. I didn't come here for a sermon. Please don't engage with me again
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Post by ceebee on Jul 27, 2021 22:06:28 GMT
You can't enforce something that isn't the law anymore, so no. People will make their own choices from now on. As it should be. No actually. If you aren’t exempt- not wearing a mask inside a theatre shows huge selfishness and disregard to the audience and the actors and crew. One covid case shuts down a show. WEAR A DAMN MASK or don’t go to the theatre. Might need to tell Charles Hart and Cam Mack that then...
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Post by ceebee on Jul 27, 2021 22:08:44 GMT
I removed my mask in the second half? The reason? It was boiling in that theatre tonight. Killian's prosthetic layer was peeling off and many of the cast were sweating profusely. Think they might have removed the ventilation when they were reshaping the orchestra pit.
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Post by scarpia on Jul 27, 2021 22:12:26 GMT
Fine for a safety curtain. The proscenium makes me feel ill. Not a lot of mask wearers in the audience, which is a bit alarming. Is it optional or is it the rule of the theatre to have it on? You can't enforce something that isn't the law anymore, so no. People will make their own choices from now on. As it should be. Um...surely it is entirely up to the theatre owner? It's their property, after all, so they determine how guests have to behave in their property.
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Post by scarpia on Jul 27, 2021 22:14:27 GMT
No actually. If you aren’t exempt- not wearing a mask inside a theatre shows huge selfishness and disregard to the audience and the actors and crew. One covid case shuts down a show. WEAR A DAMN MASK or don’t go to the theatre. Might need to tell Charles Hart and Cam Mack that then... Well, Cam Mack said in the press that he considered social distancing "foolish", so probably not a great idea to follow his advice.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 27, 2021 22:15:51 GMT
My advice to the armchair critics is to go and see for yourself then make your mind up about whether it has improved or not. Pluses for me were costumes and lighting, bits of the set wowed me, other bits less so. Sound design was good for the surround effects. The big question for most is around the orchestra, right? Going to be completely honest and say there is a noticeable difference. The depth and swells are lost, no amount of keys can replicate what has been removed, the most obvious being Primadonna which lost that glorious crescendo moment. So for me, whilst it was a great show and very well received tonight, it's definitely Phantom-lite with the reduction in musicians.
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Post by chernjam on Jul 27, 2021 22:17:27 GMT
My advice to the armchair critics is to go and see for yourself then make your mind up about whether it has improved or not. Pluses for me were costumes and lighting, bits of the set wowed me, other bits less so. Sound design was good for the surround effects. The big question for most is around the orchestra, right? Going to be completely honest and say there is a noticeable difference. The depth and swells are lost, no amount of keys can replicate what has been removed, the most obvious being Primadonna which lost that glorious crescendo moment. So for me, whilst it was a great show and very well received tonight, it's definitely Phantom-lite with the reduction in musicians. That saddens me, but leaves me hopeful that for once, we here in the US are the fortunate ones in terms of a production, as the Phantom in NY has said will retain the original orchestra
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2021 22:17:45 GMT
Might need to tell Charles Hart and Cam Mack that then... Well, Cam Mack said in the press that he considered social distancing "foolish", so probably not a great idea to follow his advice. Yeah he’s also the mega brain behind this dreadful reduction of a classic production.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2021 22:18:27 GMT
My advice to the armchair critics is to go and see for yourself then make your mind up about whether it has improved or not. Pluses for me were costumes and lighting, bits of the set wowed me, other bits less so. Sound design was good for the surround effects. The big question for most is around the orchestra, right? Going to be completely honest and say there is a noticeable difference. The depth and swells are lost, no amount of keys can replicate what has been removed, the most obvious being Primadonna which lost that glorious crescendo moment. So for me, whilst it was a great show and very well received tonight, it's definitely Phantom-lite with the reduction in musicians. That saddens me, but leaves me hopeful that for once, we here in the US are the fortunate ones in terms of a production, as the Phantom in NY has said will retain the original orchestra Just you wait. The Broadway production will get closed down and replaced by a cheaper version at some point soon.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 27, 2021 22:18:35 GMT
And when did Piangi turn gay? 🏳️🌈 Did they really do that? I wonder how they handle his relationship with Carlotta? Seems like a strange choice. It was cheap - a bit like the Gavroche finger in Les Mis. A bit of fnarr fnarr mugging for the tourists. Hope they remove it.
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Post by inthenose on Jul 27, 2021 22:23:01 GMT
How were the cast?
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Post by ceebee on Jul 27, 2021 22:26:23 GMT
Excellent. Killian was superb, Lucy St Louis has such a beautiful voice and is gorgeous - one of the best Christine's I've seen. The chap playing Raoul was also very good - can't remember his name, but very strong characterisation.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2021 22:30:19 GMT
No actually. If you aren’t exempt- not wearing a mask inside a theatre shows huge selfishness and disregard to the audience and the actors and crew. One covid case shuts down a show. WEAR A DAMN MASK or don’t go to the theatre. I didn't come here for a sermon. Please don't engage with me again Sermon 2 Get over yourself. Assume you are one of these twits not wearing a mask. Please don’t visit the theatre. Unless you want to contribute to a show being closed down.
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Post by steve10086 on Jul 27, 2021 22:31:17 GMT
I love that I made 2 statements about the show during the interval, and the one that turned out to be most accurate is the one people disbelieved 🤣
Candelabra must have malfunctioned in Act I. Did seem the oddest thing to cut.
Whereas Piangi is most definitely gay! He couldn’t get enough of the ballet boy (and I don’t blame him).
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Post by Jon on Jul 27, 2021 22:31:33 GMT
Just you wait. The Broadway production will get closed down and replaced by a cheaper version at some point soon. I'm not sure if that'll happen just yet due to the contracts they have with both the unions and also the Shubert Organisation. I think if they were to move to another theatre like say The Broadhurst, they could implement the changes but not while it's running at the Majestic.
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