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Post by TallPaul on Jul 10, 2020 9:47:18 GMT
Apapros of nothing, but I watched ENB's Royal Albert Hall production of Cinderella last night, filmed in June 2019. The chandelier, "By kind arrangement of Sir Cameron Mackintosh", was credited above the assistant creatives, and far above all the craft and technical staff.
Ironically, just like from my cheap seat at Her Majesty's, I can't even remember seeing a chandelier!
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 14, 2020 20:46:22 GMT
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Post by scarpia on Jul 15, 2020 10:45:29 GMT
Tearful goodbyes as cast members were just informed they would be let go today and had to pack out their dressing rooms. A few of them shared photos of dead plants and empty dressing rooms on Instagram. Scott Davies who’s been with the show for 20+ years as the standby phantom is gone as well... I thought they had been told about this a few weeks ago? That the dressing rooms have to be emptied makes it feel very final...  |
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Post by richey on Jul 15, 2020 12:46:10 GMT
And on the same day, the official Twitter account posts video of them producing the iconic original choreography. How hypocritical
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Post by westendboy on Jul 15, 2020 19:57:19 GMT
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Post by 42ndBlvd on Jul 15, 2020 20:18:36 GMT
And on the same day, the official Twitter account posts video of them producing the iconic original choreography. How hypocritical They are literally teasing us |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 12:06:29 GMT
And on the same day, the official Twitter account posts video of them producing the iconic original choreography. How hypocritical They are literally teasing us Now hear me out, what if this was a deliberate, calculated post? It does feel slightly antagonistic. Response across all social networks for this post has been pretty defensive and outraged. If ALW, who has openly said he'll fight for the original as much as possible, had the social teams put quite a salient post out at the same time he knew cast/crew would be returning to Her Majesty's to collect their belongings, you could pretty much predict the response online. Fans interacting with the social team shouting plight of the original, strengthens the argument back to CML that changes aren't being received well. |
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Post by theatregod on Jul 16, 2020 13:07:00 GMT
Guess this is just business at the end of the day! Revamp, improve, cut costs, get rid of who ever you please (it’s his product after all) he is not providing a public service, he’s a limited private company!
Feel for those involved! But he doesn’t really owe anyone anything.
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Post by steve10086 on Jul 16, 2020 15:28:06 GMT
Guess this is just business at the end of the day! Revamp, improve, cut costs, get rid of who ever you please (it’s his product after all) he is not providing a public service, he’s a limited private company! Feel for those involved! But he doesn’t really owe anyone anything. If “getting rid” includes the original creatives (as with Les Mis) then he certainly does “owe them”. They created the show that made his “private company” millions. |
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Post by richey on Jul 16, 2020 20:46:59 GMT
This is an interesting one, to see how it developed from Sydmonton
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Post by theatregod on Jul 16, 2020 23:28:47 GMT
Guess this is just business at the end of the day! Revamp, improve, cut costs, get rid of who ever you please (it’s his product after all) he is not providing a public service, he’s a limited private company! Feel for those involved! But he doesn’t really owe anyone anything. If “getting rid” includes the original creatives (as with Les Mis) then he certainly does “owe them”. They created the show that made his “private company” millions. Yeah, you have a point there... greed seems to drive producers. What would be interesting is who asked who to make the product ? Did he beg the creatives to put it on, or did they go to him in the beginning to invest his money? I guess anyone knowing a product was going to involve ALW back in the 80s then you would surely have a hit. It’s all a mess and covid does not help anything atm... And regarding the musicians situation, sad, but 27 and in the year 2020 wow! The pit was too small for that amount anyway and most of them were probably deaf from not having up to date sound proofing and space to play correctly (for years). I bet the new version will be just fine, more expensive to watch, but will still last another decade or two and be way more safer and cheaper to operate. |
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Post by deej4life on Jul 19, 2020 23:56:33 GMT
I originally saw the show back in 2014 and I was not a big fan. Would anyone recommend giving the show a second try?
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Post by carmella1 on Jul 20, 2020 3:23:48 GMT
I originally saw the show back in 2014 and I was not a big fan. Would anyone recommend giving the show a second try? Since its been running since 1986 I think a few people have seen it more than once. |
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Post by scarpia on Jul 20, 2020 17:25:28 GMT
I originally saw the show back in 2014 and I was not a big fan. Would anyone recommend giving the show a second try? Since its been running since 1986 I think a few people have seen it more than once. We can only hope the production will return though; I worry there's a lot in the rumours of Cameron chucking the original under the bus. A picture of the chandelier being taken out of Her Majesty's today circulated on social media. I can hope the intention is either to renovate it, to keep it safe while they do up the theatre, or to replace it with chandelier no. 3 (but NOT the Laurence Connor production chandelier or a watered-down version of Maria Björnson's design). |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 20, 2020 17:43:46 GMT
Love these Who Sang It Best vids by Mister Golightly. Sarah Brightman “let your soul take you where you long to booooooooooooo”. Colm Wilkinson “let your soul take you where you long to baaaaaaaaay”. 😆
Who does it best for you?
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Post by richey on Jul 20, 2020 17:44:53 GMT
Just seen that picture. So sad
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Post by 42ndBlvd on Jul 20, 2020 18:41:39 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 20, 2020 20:42:53 GMT
Whose instagram acct is that?
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Post by richey on Jul 20, 2020 21:02:27 GMT
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 20, 2020 21:07:17 GMT
Also, wouldn't it be cheaper to leave it in there than to pay for storage? Or are they gutting the theatre?
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Post by richey on Jul 20, 2020 21:19:55 GMT
Also, wouldn't it be cheaper to leave it in there than to pay for storage? Or are they gutting the theatre? didn't someone say it was allegedly unsafe and they were replacing it? |
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Post by richey on Jul 21, 2020 7:12:11 GMT
I wonder if this photo is another attempt at gathering public opinion about the changes. I mean you don't usually get productions leaving major elements of their scenery out on the pavement for anyone to take pictures of.
It's now been picked up on by Baz and a lot of the theatre sites on social media
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 13:47:32 GMT
I wonder if this photo is another attempt at gathering public opinion about the changes. I mean you don't usually get productions leaving major elements of their scenery out on the pavement for anyone to take pictures of. It's now been picked up on by Baz and a lot of the theatre sites on social media Doubt it, this picture came up via people working at the theatre rather than official channels. It's close to the loading dock so obviously caught in transit.
The post you mention earlier I interpreted as the mechanics that had been "condemed". We saw previously, images of the chaneldier upstage with other set. If they're overhauling the chandelier mechanics, whilst overhauling parts of the stage the chandelier needs somewhere to go, HMT is tight backstage and there is very little space anywhere for storage so it makes sense for large physical items to go into remote storage. Or perhaps the chandelier itself is being refurbished, in which case that likely to be in a scenic workshop, not on the stage at HMT.
In any case, this does indicate how severe the "refurbishment" is going to be.
If I lived in London, I'd be hovering around there for a few days to see what comes out the theatre and who goes in, out of sheer interest.
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Post by westendboy on Jul 21, 2020 18:09:49 GMT
I don't know whether to feel worried, or if I'm looking way to into it.
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