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Post by bellboard27 on Aug 1, 2016 12:58:47 GMT
Malmo Opera is putting on Kinky Boots in Swedish running from September to December, overlapping in rep from November with the Marriage of Figaro. I've booked to go fairly early in the run. Will be interested to see how this pans out. "Charlie från Northampton, träffa Simon från Clacton". |
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Post by theatre-turtle on Aug 1, 2016 13:33:02 GMT
If they managed it in Korean it can't be too bad in Swedish
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Post by viserys on Aug 1, 2016 13:38:40 GMT
First Book of Mormon, now Kinky Boots. Nice going, Sverige.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 1, 2016 14:50:20 GMT
Are these replica/franchised productions or are they standalone and completely reinvented, redesigned and redirected?
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Post by viserys on Aug 1, 2016 15:07:36 GMT
www.malmoopera.se/kinkybootsNot sure if these costumes are anything to go by? They definitely list their own costume designer, so I think it will probably be similar but not a carbon copy. No idea about BoM, I'd expect a carbon copy.
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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 1, 2016 15:21:10 GMT
Is this the production where a white actor is playing the role of Lola?
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Post by bellboard27 on Aug 1, 2016 15:26:25 GMT
Is this the production where a white actor is playing the role of Lola? Seems to be so: Oscar Pierrou Lindén as Lola. |
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Post by viserys on Aug 1, 2016 15:31:15 GMT
He looks a blonder Eddie Redmayne
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Post by talkstageytome on Aug 1, 2016 15:42:05 GMT
Is this the production where a white actor is playing the role of Lola? Seems to be so: Oscar Pierrou Lindén as Lola. Thanks. I couldn't translate the website on my phone. |
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Post by ali973 on Aug 7, 2016 15:10:56 GMT
The costumes are different, so I assume it's a non-replica.
Disappointed by the white-washing of the character. I wish these producers would just stop.
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Post by billyboy on Sept 5, 2016 17:14:44 GMT
Saw this on opening night last Saturday. It's not a copy of the original production, but it's very good. In fact I think it's one of the best productions I have seen in Malmö. Malmö Opera has a huge stage and a lot of productions looks a bit lost on this enormous space, but the designer (Martin Chocholousek) makes very good use of it. Drew McOnies choreography is amazing, much better than the original in my opinion. The lightning by Fredrik Jönsson is also very good. He was the lightning designer for Eurovision song contest in Stockholm and Malmö.
I have no problem with a white Lola. I think it's the personality and attitude thats' important. Oscar Pierrou Lindén is a perfect Lola. He and the show itself has got very good reviews in the Swedish papers.
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Post by Michael on Sept 5, 2016 18:01:44 GMT
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Post by billyboy on Sept 5, 2016 18:23:13 GMT
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Post by ali973 on Sept 5, 2016 20:17:19 GMT
I have no problem with a white Lola. I'm sure you don't, dear. I'm so happy that you're content with your privilege and complacency. |
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Post by Michael on Sept 5, 2016 20:34:28 GMT
I'm sure you don't, dear. I'm so happy that you're content with your privilege and complacency.  |
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Post by billyboy on Sept 6, 2016 5:27:23 GMT
I have no problem with a white Lola. I'm sure you don't, dear. I'm so happy that you're content with your privilege and complacency. Thats nice of you. I will never post on this board again. |
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Post by d'James on Sept 6, 2016 10:42:23 GMT
Looks an interesting production. Didn't like some of the vocals (not that we heard many). The costumes don't seem as colourful as London, although maybe we're not being shown the most garish ones deliberately. At times there seemed to be too many people on stage, but maybe that's just for the trailer.
Would be an interesting production to see but I'm not going to Sweden any time soon.
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Post by Stasia on Sept 6, 2016 13:31:49 GMT
I'm sure you don't, dear. I'm so happy that you're content with your privilege and complacency. Thats nice of you. I will never post on this board again. What the hell happened here? billyboy shares his thoughts and all of a sudden gets such response. Why? Is that only me who is not ok with fellow board members greeting newcomers like that? ali973 why would you do that? |
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Post by ali973 on Sept 6, 2016 14:36:01 GMT
I honestly don't think my response was out of place.
I am genuinely happy for someone who is so self-involved, clueless and blinded by privilege to have no problem with with overt case of whitewashing, disregard for performers of color, depriving them of already scarce opportunity and making them invisibile. Must be nice to live in that world.
I'm actually rather amused that I'm the only one who flagged it and for everyone's flagrant disregard to it, and then to be the bad guy for calling out someone who is is actively supporting it.
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Post by talkstageytome on Sept 6, 2016 14:49:34 GMT
I agree and was shocked when a white actor was announced in the role. In fact I was sure that we'd discussed this before, hence my comment on the previous page.As we've already discussed, the lyrics of the song imply a black actor should be playing the role, plus that's been the way the role has been played in every other production of KB and the movie.
However, I'm sure no offence was meant by Billyboy's comment and so it's sad that they felt they had to leave rather than engage in conversation about the whitewashing in this production. Not everyone always considers the bigger picture when it comes to the reasons why certain castings offend or are inappropriate, which is why conversations about whitewashing etc on this forum are so interesting.
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Post by d'James on Sept 6, 2016 15:00:41 GMT
talkstageytome is it the lyrics to Land of Lola you're thinking of or are there more songs? (I don't know the rest of the lyrics that well.)
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Post by talkstageytome on Sept 6, 2016 15:03:21 GMT
talkstageytome is it the lyrics to Land of Lola you're thinking of or are there more songs? (I don't know the rest of the lyrics that well.) That's the main one which stands out. I'm not sure if there are more, as Kinky Boots isn't a musical that I like all that much. |
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Post by Steffi on Sept 6, 2016 15:28:04 GMT
Having a white Lola just shouldn't happen. I don't know the guy playing the part in this production. Is he famous in Sweden? Did they choose him because he would put bums on seats?
Even if that was the reason (or part of the reason) he was cast it doesn't excuse the fact that this is - as has been said - terrible whitewashing.
I don't think billyboy meant offence though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 16:01:59 GMT
I honestly don't think my response was out of place. I am genuinely happy for someone who is so self-involved, clueless and blinded by privilege to have no problem with with overt case of whitewashing, disregard for performers of color, depriving them of already scarce opportunity and making them invisibile. Must be nice to live in that world. (Posting without my moderator's hat on.) There's potential for an interesting discussion on this subject. This isn't one. I'm sure you appreciate that this is about the cheapest shot you could fire. You're better than that. Pretty much all of us accept that it's a terrible state of affairs that there seems to be an assumption that all roles are "white by default" — an assumption that even shows up in people who proudly proclaim their support for colour-blind casting when they're actually praising the casting of a black person in a role that never had any implied colour in the first place — but screaming "white privilege" at anyone who doesn't understand the problem is not going to change anybody's mind. Everyone: No matter how strongly you feel about an issue, read through your post before submitting it and if it's nothing but insults then cancel it and go off to cool down. If you have a point to make, make it. If you haven't, do something else. |
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Post by ali973 on Sept 6, 2016 19:42:51 GMT
There's potential for an interesting discussion on this subject. This isn't one. I'm sure you appreciate that this is about the cheapest shot you could fire. You're better than that. Pretty much all of us accept that it's a terrible state of affairs that there seems to be an assumption that all roles are "white by default" — an assumption that even shows up in people who proudly proclaim their support for colour-blind casting when they're actually praising the casting of a black person in a role that never had any implied colour in the first place — but screaming "white privilege" at anyone who doesn't understand the problem is not going to change anybody's mind. Everyone: No matter how strongly you feel about an issue, read through your post before submitting it and if it's nothing but insults then cancel it and go off to cool down. If you have a point to make, make it. If you haven't, do something else. Nope. Sorry. Why should I tolerate someone's full dedication on being ignorant, lazy and willfully uneducated? And given how THIS kind of conversation is dominating popular discourse, there is absolutely no need for me to accommodate to this kind of foolishness. |
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