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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 15:13:48 GMT
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Post by johartuk on Jul 25, 2016 16:38:59 GMT
RIP Marnie.
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Post by basdfg on Jul 25, 2016 17:03:05 GMT
RIP. The voice on many of the most famous musical songs of all time.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 25, 2016 18:54:19 GMT
This though.
I go to this track on the soundtrack every time. Absolutely gorgeous.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 23:26:25 GMT
RIP Marni Nixon
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Post by mallardo on Jul 26, 2016 0:07:47 GMT
I saw her on stage, back in '03 or '04 in New York. She was part of the replacement cast in Nine, she played Guido's Mother. Her one number in the show is the title song which she sang beautifully and for which she got a huge ovation from an audience who knew very well who she was. RIP.
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Post by jek on Jul 26, 2016 7:51:09 GMT
Funnily enough our local Picturehouse cinema showed West Side Story as part of its vintage strand on Sunday afternoon. It was the sing a long version, with lyrics posted on the screen like subtitles, but none of the 20 or so people in the cinema took the opportunity to join in. It was great to see the film on the big screen (especially since my daughter - who is studying 'Something's Coming' as part of her GCSE Music Exam - had never seen the film before). Those opening titles and credits by Saul Bass are stunning. As we left we were having a chat with one of the other cinema goers about Marni Nixon. From the obituaries it looks very much like a life well lived.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 8:45:41 GMT
She had such an impact on my early love of musicals - the first musical I saw at the cinema was The King and I and then of course West Side Story and My Fair Lady. By that time I knew who she was and enjoyed spotting her in Sound Of Music. She was up there with the actresses she did the voice overs for. A very talented lady. May she rest in peace.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 9:17:24 GMT
This though. I go to this track on the soundtrack every time. Absolutely gorgeous. Apparently Natalie Wood didn't realise she'd been dubbed by Marni Nixon until the film was finished. She assumed that her vocals would be in the finished film (although you can hear her vocals at the beginning of the 'Somewhere' reprise near the end of the film). Ironically, she also tried to get Richard Beymer fired because she didn't think he was any good as a singer or dancer. Beymer was dubbed too of course. Marni also didn't sign a contract for her vocals so wasn't initially paid royalties from the soundtrack album until Leonard Bernstein gave her a percentage of his album royalties instead.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 26, 2016 9:49:41 GMT
This though. I go to this track on the soundtrack every time. Absolutely gorgeous. Apparently Natalie Wood didn't realise she'd been dubbed by Marni Nixon until the film was finished. She assumed that her vocals would be in the finished film (although you can hear her vocals at the beginning of the 'Somewhere' reprise near the end of the film). Ironically, she also tried to get Richard Beymer fired because she didn't think he was any good as a singer or dancer. Beymer was dubbed too of course. Marni also didn't sign a contract for her vocals so wasn't initially paid royalties from the soundtrack album until Leonard Bernstein gave her a percentage of his album royalties instead. Wonder what it must have sounded like on set. People must have been walking about with cotton wool in their ears. "Ear plugs in guys... It's the duet!"
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Post by johartuk on Jul 26, 2016 10:47:59 GMT
Apparently Natalie Wood didn't realise she'd been dubbed by Marni Nixon until the film was finished. She assumed that her vocals would be in the finished film (although you can hear her vocals at the beginning of the 'Somewhere' reprise near the end of the film). Ironically, she also tried to get Richard Beymer fired because she didn't think he was any good as a singer or dancer. Beymer was dubbed too of course. Marni also didn't sign a contract for her vocals so wasn't initially paid royalties from the soundtrack album until Leonard Bernstein gave her a percentage of his album royalties instead. Wonder what it must have sounded like on set. People must have been walking about with cotton wool in their ears. "Ear plugs in guys... It's the duet!" There are some examples of Natalie's actual voice in WSS on the tubular website. Natalie had a distinctly average voice, and seems (judging by the clips) unable to belt. No wonder they brought Marni in!
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Post by johartuk on Jul 26, 2016 10:54:01 GMT
I think Marni's real talent (apart from having a phenomenal voice) was being able to mimic the actresses she was dubbing. When Maria starts singing in the finished version of WSS, it isn't jarring.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 26, 2016 12:58:23 GMT
Wonder what it must have sounded like on set. People must have been walking about with cotton wool in their ears. "Ear plugs in guys... It's the duet!" There are some examples of Natalie's actual voice in WSS on the tubular website. Natalie had a distinctly average voice, and seems (judging by the clips) unable to belt. No wonder they brought Marni in! Hmmm, not as bad I was expecting perhaps but you can see why they did it. Gosh she was pretty though wasn't she.
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Post by musicallady on Jul 26, 2016 15:25:39 GMT
I watched a documentary on Sky Arts about these "ghost" singers. Facinating
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Post by johartuk on Jul 26, 2016 16:56:46 GMT
There was a documentary on BBC4 a while ago. Interesting stuff.
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Post by orchestrator on Jul 27, 2016 13:41:40 GMT
Wonder what it must have sounded like on set. People must have been walking about with cotton wool in their ears. "Ear plugs in guys... It's the duet!" They wouldn’t be singing on set or perhaps just quietly; generally they mimed to playback of a “rough” version of the vocals and orchestra. Once the film was shot and edited the vocals would have been re-recorded in sync with the picture.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 27, 2016 14:06:09 GMT
Wonder what it must have sounded like on set. People must have been walking about with cotton wool in their ears. "Ear plugs in guys... It's the duet!" They wouldn’t be singing on set or perhaps just quietly; generally they mimed to playback of a “rough” version of the vocals and orchestra. Once the film was shot and edited the vocals would have been re-recorded in sync with the picture. Artistic license for comedy effect Orchestrator! And failed
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 22, 2016 8:52:48 GMT
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