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Post by blamerobots on Sept 3, 2024 23:26:32 GMT
What kind of “stunt cast” is used on Broadway? I mean the headlining Jordan-Noblezada pairing. They both have a lot of fans I suppose that seem to be the ones seeing the show and pushing that audience score up on review websites.
Is it worth making a new thread about the Broadway Gatsby, or however that's going to be referred to as it is now coming over here...
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Post by mattnyc on Sept 3, 2024 23:28:10 GMT
Eva and Jeremy are Broadway performers. They are not “stunt casting”.
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Post by blamerobots on Sept 3, 2024 23:32:31 GMT
Lol maybe I have gotten too used to using that term loosely. Maybe more a case of strategic "star casting". Not to put them down as they're both top players. Oh well, they definitely play a role in driving up some of the productions attention, especially on social media. They're heavily associated with the production in almost everything I've seen posted on Instagram and other social media and it feels strategically done so in advertising to attract audiences.
Barely do I see posts talking about the merits of the material but instead praising the performances of those actors trying a fairly middling show.
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Post by danb on Sept 4, 2024 8:57:20 GMT
Sorry but that cast recording is not the most promising. How is it doing on Broadway???
Hopefully ART Gatsby will maybe do a stint in another West End theatre if we're lucky. because boy am I not interested in seeing the Broadway one.
EDIT: Nevermind, the Broadway production is a million-seller, but has it recouped? What theatre is it going into? so many questions.
The theatre was diagonally across the crosswalk from our hotel/The Winter Garden on 7th…if that is remotely helpful.
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Post by sixdegrees on Sept 6, 2024 20:42:09 GMT
Feeling a bit dumbfounded because I'm now hearing both Gatsbys have houses for next year... 😲 That'd make an interesting two show day.
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Post by Being Alive on Sept 6, 2024 20:52:07 GMT
They surely can't both be on at the same time that'd be insane.
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Post by blamerobots on Sept 6, 2024 20:59:40 GMT
They surely can't both be on at the same time that'd be insane. Weren't both Wild Party's on at the same time? I'm here for it. Always need a little more chaos. Maybe Theatreboard will divide into Gatsby factions and we'll have a turf war, or maybe even in real life. The West End divided in two in rivalry about who is the better Gatsby. When you're an 'ART' you're an 'ART' all the way, etc.
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Post by showtoones on Sept 6, 2024 21:55:04 GMT
Maybe one will come in this year?
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Post by anthony on Sept 7, 2024 12:39:52 GMT
They surely can't both be on at the same time that'd be insane. There was a version of The Phantom of the Opera that transfered from Churchill Theatre Bromley in 1991 to the Shaftesbury.It didn't last long needless to say! Not just another version - Ken Hill's version is the original version, which ultimately inspired Lloyd Webber. The Ken Hill production is still fairly popular in Asia and tours fairly frequently. Most recently with Ben Forster as the Phantom in Japan.
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 7, 2024 17:14:28 GMT
Speaking of Webber there was a time when the West End had both The Woman in Black & The Woman in White.
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Post by khiar on Sept 9, 2024 11:44:04 GMT
Does Broadway's Gatsby have anything going for it, other than its star casting?
If they manage to bring Eva over, I might give it a look. Otherwise I'm not bothered... But I am definitely interested in seeing ART Gatsby.
They ought to bring back Immersive Gatsby, and perhaps "Gatz" too. Who will run the gauntlet of an entire 4-show Gatsby weekend?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 9, 2024 11:52:22 GMT
A Lead creative has been fired so that ART production is dead in the water. They are going back to the drawing board with a new production.
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Post by viserys on Sept 9, 2024 11:54:50 GMT
Broadway Gatsby has lush stage sets, whereas ART Gatsby has a more "abstract" set.
Broadway Gatsby puts the love story between Jay and Daisy front and center (to a point where it's distorted from the novel, which is what many people hold against it). In ART Gatsby Myrtle seemed to be the standout, having the best songs and a killer performance from the amazing Solea Pfeiffer, and there was more open homosexuality.
My thought is: Broadway Gatsby is more a lavish mainstream show for those hoping for some "Roaring Twenties" entertainment with some great songs, ART Gatsby is the intellectual cousin for those who like something a bit more challenging.
Both have a right to exist and I don't know if I would prefer one to the other. And of course ART Gatsby can still change big time if they bring new creatives in for another tryout in London. Wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to get away from Chavkin's abstract design. She did great with Hadestown, but her magic seems to have left her with Lempicka, which also tried a more abstract staging.
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Post by TallPaul on Oct 19, 2024 11:37:44 GMT
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Post by 42ndBlvd on Nov 7, 2024 0:23:34 GMT
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Post by Mark on Nov 7, 2024 4:07:34 GMT
Only a 3 week run though.
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Post by Rory on Nov 7, 2024 4:14:08 GMT
And it's Rachel Chavkin, not Rebecca Frecknall
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Post by lolaluffneggle on Nov 7, 2024 6:58:32 GMT
And it's Rachel Chavkin, not Rebecca Frecknall I thought Frecknall was taking over from Chavkin.
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Post by wta2024 on Nov 7, 2024 9:01:22 GMT
Maybe they are planning a big open workshop run, just to be the first in London.
Would be nice middle finger to that mediocre production with a too wealthy producer.
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Post by viserys on Nov 7, 2024 9:21:27 GMT
with a too wealthy producer. What a ridiculous statement. Do you bash Cameron Mackintosh or Andrew Lloyd Webber or any other producer who dared to be successful like that as well just because you dislike a production? Shin Chun-soo (to give him his proper spelling) became rich through introducing Western musicals to the Korean market and thereby helped those Western producers to open up a new market there for them (and earn money through licensing rights). He then used some of his money to try and get involved in Broadway producing - so? He landed more flops on Broadway than hits (among them the dismal Doctor Zhivago and recently the Britney Spears clunker) but he created shows and thus jobs on Broadway. Something European producers have also tried and failed at - Joop van den Ende who founded the vastly successful Stage Entertainment in the Netherlands expanded to Broadway, the West End, Germany and other countries to (co-)produce shows there (and had his own epic flop when he tried to bring his own Dutch Cyrano to Broadway), Vienna's VBW even produced two massive clunkers in Dance of the Vampires and Rebecca (which never even made it to opening night). You can dislike Great Gatsby all you like, but this godawful attitude towards the Korean producer is simply something I cannot just ignore. How do you even know that the ART Gatsby was better? Just because it was a pretentious artsy-fartsy production with minimalist stage sets that didn't just want to ENTERTAIN people (which is clearly what people want, given the success of the oh-so-awful Great Gatsby on Broadway)
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Post by ruraljuror on Nov 7, 2024 10:10:21 GMT
Only a 3 week run though. Streetcar is coming back for three weeks, that's what this is for.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 7, 2024 10:13:15 GMT
And it's Rachel Chavkin, not Rebecca Frecknall I thought Frecknall was taking over from Chavkin. I didn’t realise it was public knowledge that Chavkin had been fired! That does leave the ART production in the dust and they’d have to start again.
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Post by lolaluffneggle on Nov 7, 2024 10:20:26 GMT
Maybe it wasn’t supposed to be, but it’s doing the rounds!
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