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Post by JJShaw on May 5, 2016 9:51:20 GMT
On another note, can someone just give Rebecca a recording contract or a concert at the St. James or Hippodrome? Her voice is really special. Yes please! such a unique voice, i could listen to her read the phonebook!
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Post by mallardo on May 5, 2016 10:12:40 GMT
I'm afraid I'm not sure I've even heard of "Dukes of Hazard" let alone watched it. 80s USA TV show set in the South, about the Duke boys who ran the law close. Only really watched by younger males, and only for two reasons - car chases and short shorts that came to be known as "Daisy Dukes" for good reason.
Car chases? All I remember is the girls. Broadway's Tom Wopat (Annie Get Your Gun, A Catered Affair, Catch Me If You Can) was one of the stars.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 15:16:22 GMT
As much as I would love it to, I can't seeing this stay open until January. Huge shame. Atleast matinees are doing good? Thinkint about it, it's quite hard to imagine how some shows sell out night after night and some stay open for years. Heaters have seats of around 1,000; so it's a lot of seats to sell
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Post by Jon on May 5, 2016 15:36:10 GMT
As much as I would love it to, I can't seeing this stay open until January. Huge shame. Atleast matinees are doing good? Thinkint about it, it's quite hard to imagine how some shows sell out night after night and some stay open for years. Heaters have seats of around 1,000; so it's a lot of seats to sell Don't think heaters can have 1000s of seats! Most shows don't need to sell out night after night to be successful, the long runners usually make their costs on the weekend and anything during the week is profit
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 5, 2016 17:00:39 GMT
TBH I just think that this type of show is just not popular. True, it's a classic by all means, but it doesn't ring like The King & I, Guys & Dolls or other shows from the golden era, nor is its film one that is particularly one of those Hollywood musicals that everyone grew up watching. It must have done well because Sheffield, where West End size productions with West End performers are limited and when you're playing in the city's flagship theatre. But when you're in the West End you're competing with a lot of other shows, especially when you have shows with big stars making all the headlines (Sunset, Funny Girl, etc). On another note, can someone just give Rebecca a recording contract or a concert at the St. James or Hippodrome? Her voice is really special. Sheffield gets all of the usual tours at The Lyceum which is next door to The Crucible. They're not up there with Manc which seems to be the go-to city outside of London, and both are obviously a different ball game altogether to the West End but they're certainly not starved of big musicals. Also, I don't think 95% of the Crucible audience would have had the foggiest idea who Xavier, Beck and Trehern were. The people I went with are regular theatre-goers but were oblivious to the casting. Stunt casting with tv celebs may draw in the crowds but I don't think big west end names do.
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Post by basdfg on May 8, 2016 14:10:29 GMT
Grr. My dad just realised the date we go coincide with west end Live and is not happy because he think all the understudies will be on.
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Post by Jon on May 8, 2016 14:18:59 GMT
Grr. My dad just realised the date we go coincide with west end Live and is not happy because he think all the understudies will be on. West End Live doesnt usually affect shows since they schedule it around the normal performances.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 16:13:01 GMT
Grr. My dad just realised the date we go coincide with west end Live and is not happy because he think all the understudies will be on. Should be okay, they usually do the big shows in the morning so performers can get back for the matinee or they put the understudies on West End Live. I'm seeing a show on that day too and will NOT be happy if we get the understudy for the show as the performer is my favourite person ever
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Post by theatremadness on May 10, 2016 17:16:41 GMT
West End Wilma tweeting that this will close on 27th August - anyone on here know whether these are substantiated claims??
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Post by aksis on May 10, 2016 17:17:34 GMT
Have not been able to find more information yet
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Post by theatremadness on May 10, 2016 17:18:33 GMT
Terri Paddock has also tweeted that "@showboatmusical has just posted closing notices for 27 Aug"
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 17:20:27 GMT
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Post by theatremadness on May 10, 2016 17:23:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 17:32:16 GMT
It's a shame Hamilton has bagged the Victoria Palace, I thought the New London would of been a great venue for that!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:01:18 GMT
Such a shame this is closing, feel super sorry for the cast as they all look amazing. Hope Sandra Marvin, Gina Beck and Julie move on to do things straight after. It's not lasted very long has it?! Only 4 months and it's closed early by 5 months, I wasn't expecting it to close that early!! I wonder why it's doing so bad.
The theatre is quite weird, the stage comes out into the audiences so set design has to be quite hard to create due to lack of fly space, scary wagons etc. I don't think another play will go there again?
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Post by CG on the loose on May 10, 2016 18:09:05 GMT
Sad but not surprised to hear this wonderful show is closing - I loved it but I can see that it's a tough sell in a tough market. Happy however to have two more tickets booked this side of closing.
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Post by Phantom of London on May 10, 2016 18:23:29 GMT
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Post by horton on May 10, 2016 18:36:25 GMT
Such a shame- and indeed indicative of a major crisis in British musical production. A stunning production of a classic Broadway show, with a host of great reviews- and it tanks.
Apart from the old, old favourites and kids' shows, what musicals are actually doing well? Kinky Boots and Beautiful are discounting, Mrs Henderson is on its way out and the Palladium can't even find a musical to fill it.
You know it's a bad time when Bill Kenwright is steering clear of Shaftesbury Avenue.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:40:54 GMT
Such a shame- and indeed indicative of a major crisis in British musical production. A stunning production of a classic Broadway show, with a host of great reviews- and it tanks. Apart from the old, old favourites and kids' shows, what musicals are actually doing well? Kinky Boots and Beautiful are discounting, Mrs Henderson is on its way out and the Palladium can't even find a musical to fill it. You know it's a bad time when Bill Kenwright is steering clear of Shaftesbury Avenue. Yeah huge shame it's finishing so early . Funny how some musicals can't stay open for a year but then some stay open for 10!! I would say Kinky Boots is doing badly?! The shows just extended by a year? I think Beautiful is on its way out. It's a shame the Palladium can't find a long running musical but it's because producers don't want to risk opening in a 2,000+ seat theatre and then gaining profit. I keep saying it's the price of West End tickets nowadays!! I saw that Kinky Boots has upped their prices by around £2 but it still makes a difference. Would've thoughht producers would lower prices if shows aren't doing well at the moment!!
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Post by daniel on May 10, 2016 18:48:43 GMT
I think the problem with lowering prices is the fear of devaluing your product. Say you were a tourist picking a West End show, if one was charging £80 and one was charging £50 for seats of the same quality...I know which one I would expect to be the better show and would therefore pick if I was on a once a year visit.
I do have to wonder though (in general, not just Show Boat!) if producers could do more to get people in. Wider advertising of day seats and the level of discount, free or heavily reduced tickets for students and school groups - just ways to get bums on seats and hopefully spread some positive word of mouth.
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Post by ali973 on May 10, 2016 18:59:56 GMT
It's a good production, and I honestly think I've enjoyed it more than the much more lavish Hal Prince version from the 90s that I barely recollect. However, not really surprised given how dated and how much of a relic the show is, which explains low ticket sales. Without having to go into jukebox musicals killing the West End and the general public's low brow preference, I think people want something fresh and exciting despite its style. It only appeals to a certain older demographic and maybe a musical theatre fan base that wants to see a classic because they either like it or just as part of their musical theatre self-education. To me it was the latter mixed with being in London for the final days of Sunset and really having nothing new to see.
Though I thought it was very well produced, well directed and fabulously performed, I really did wonder just how, well, necessary it was. The show is far from perfect in terms of its story telling, and its portrayal of black characters could have been cutting edge when it first started for humanizing them and shedding a light on their struggle and reality, but we've moved on and seeing it in 2016 these characters are really just used as a devise coming to the aid of the white protagonist with their special insight into life and situations.
The West End isn't particularly lacking without it, and it's not one of those must see revivals that gets done every 5-10 years like Gypsy or King & I.
I'm sure the cast will be just fine. They are very much an employable bunch, especially the young leads who are all up and coming and booking one show right after the other.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 19:08:29 GMT
I wonder if this will ever have a successful revival commercially? Is it just too dated?
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Post by partytentdown on May 10, 2016 19:08:32 GMT
Funny, despite being immersed in theatre on here and other sites, this has been totally off my radar, so I can't imagine much of the general public will have much awareness of it. Is it worth catching or is it just one of those revivals that seem a bit pointless and dated?
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Post by ali973 on May 10, 2016 19:27:56 GMT
Pointless and dated. But worth catching considering how low the prices are if you just want to hit the theatre. It's not boring, but like I said, slightly unnecessary.
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Post by partytentdown on May 10, 2016 19:29:48 GMT
Pointless and dated. But worth catching considering how low the prices are if you just want to hit the theatre. It's not boring, but like I said, slightly unnecessary. What's the cheapest I can get?!
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