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Post by sherriebythesea on Nov 3, 2018 9:47:36 GMT
How horrible!! I can't even imagine how they feel
Guess I'd better start trying to get my money back for that very expensive pit seat in Boston. The fates are conspiring to keep Andrew and I apart......
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Post by alison on Nov 3, 2018 23:59:11 GMT
That’s pretty standard for any show.
Not when it's done by email and not even in person, which seems to be what happened here according to the reports I've heard. Heartbroken for the cast and crew.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 0:23:17 GMT
Just so sad. I imagine, based on their responses and the way it has happened, none of them will want anything to do with the producers so a whole new cast for New York I imagine. Hmmmm, I'd be VERY surprised if NYC goes ahead now as it was just a date on the tour, same producers etc. Plus for whatever reason, the producers have never been confident about Broadway, hence launching in UK first, then Canada, then planning a tour in US instead then going for a limited time at a non Broadway theatre. I find it odd as Bat is a million times better than half the rubbish that plays Broadway; but there we are! And surely Steinman (mainly known via Meatloaf) is massive in the USA. Very odd it's not sold well. I say get that UK tour to the big 6 venues up and running. And in the meantime I can hear Oberhausen calling me..... Near enough to Bochum to do a Starlight/Bat combo weekend. I'll be in Heaven :-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 1:25:33 GMT
I think it would do SO well on tour here, I'm really surprised it hasn't announced!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 1:36:39 GMT
I think it would do SO well on tour here, I'm really surprised it hasn't announced! Agree, was pretty much sold out in Manchester (other than the extension, but that was announced at the 11th hour....)
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Post by martello736 on Nov 4, 2018 17:08:24 GMT
Danielle Steers and Sharon Sexton have both won Wilma Awards.
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Post by dontdreamit on Nov 4, 2018 17:43:00 GMT
Danielle Steers and Sharon Sexton have both won Wilma Awards. Sharon dedicated her award to the US tour cast, which I thought was lovely.
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Post by Raven on Nov 4, 2018 19:08:35 GMT
I think it would do SO well on tour here, I'm really surprised it hasn't announced! I would love to see this tour and agree that it would do really well. I'm kind of hoping they announce it before it closes in London but with what has just panned out in America I'm not so sure it will...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 19:13:51 GMT
I think it would do SO well on tour here, I'm really surprised it hasn't announced! I would love to see this tour and agree that it would do really well. I'm kind of hoping they announce it before it closes in London but with what has just panned out in America I'm not so sure it will... I suspect it may be a Dreamgirls situation though. Dreamgirls tour doesn't actually begin until August/September 2020, but their press release made out like the tour was happening the next day. 😂
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Post by 49thand8th on Nov 5, 2018 20:01:46 GMT
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Post by ncbears on Nov 5, 2018 20:47:24 GMT
Things are definitely strange over here in the US.
So, the NY City Center dates for Summer 2019 are apparently still on - with the website saying Summer 2019. And US tour "launching 2019".
Of course, I highly doubt any member of the now-canceled tour cast is going to sign on again. Some may do so - but the trust element is long gone. And then there's the cost for storage of the set for all of those months. And which venues are going to be willing to book Bat Out Of Hell a second time - only to run the risk of getting a one or two week hole in their schedule to fill at the last second?
So, this appears to be going the way of Rebecca in the US. And of course, the producer's prior cancellation - never to be rescheduled - JCSuperstar.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Nov 5, 2018 22:02:02 GMT
TicketMaster still not saying US tour cancelled and refunds available
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Post by l0islane on Nov 7, 2018 0:38:48 GMT
I did a backstage tour this evening that was run by the stage manager (omg the rake of that stage is nuts, I've no clue how they walk on it let alone dance on it!), she said that they were hoping for a UK tour but 'it's just speculation'.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 9:46:12 GMT
I did a backstage tour this evening that was run by the stage manager (omg the rake of that stage is nuts, I've no clue how they walk on it let alone dance on it!), she said that they were hoping for a UK tour but 'it's just speculation'. OMG I had no idea there were Dominion tours! Lucky you!
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Post by l0islane on Nov 7, 2018 10:38:27 GMT
I did a backstage tour this evening that was run by the stage manager (omg the rake of that stage is nuts, I've no clue how they walk on it let alone dance on it!), she said that they were hoping for a UK tour but 'it's just speculation'. OMG I had no idea there were Dominion tours! Lucky you! It was ‘Priceless Mastercard Experience’ they did for one evening – stalls ticket, 2 glasses of champagne (that I swapped for coke!!), a program and backstage tour for £65, pretty decent really. I posted some pictures on my Instagram story if you’re interested (they’ll disappear after 24 hours I think): www.instagram.com/l0is_lane/
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 11:08:02 GMT
OMG I had no idea there were Dominion tours! Lucky you! It was ‘Priceless Mastercard Experience’ they did for one evening – stalls ticket, 2 glasses of champagne (that I swapped for coke!!), a program and backstage tour for £65, pretty decent really. I posted some pictures on my Instagram story if you’re interested (they’ll disappear after 24 hours I think): www.instagram.com/l0is_lane/ Wow that's so cool! I would have loved to do that tour! I'm gonna follow you btw if that's ok 😊
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Post by viserys on Nov 7, 2018 11:21:18 GMT
Great pix indeed, bit jealous, but well done for sneaking so many cool photos!
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Post by l0islane on Nov 7, 2018 12:49:45 GMT
2 glasses of champagne (that I swapped for coke!!), Wow, that really is hard Rock'n'Roll. I'm impressed. Oh, reading back, you probably mean the brown fizzy liquid? Ah well. Haha, not necessary, watching the show already makes you feel like you're on drugs!! I can never figure out how to multiquote on here but @eldermillan follow away, my normal feed is mostly scenery and I hide all my overly enthusiastic theatre stuff on stories!
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Post by sherriebythesea on Nov 7, 2018 13:20:28 GMT
Waiting for show (across street in pub). Looks like it is a Barney day
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Post by sherriebythesea on Nov 7, 2018 15:45:02 GMT
At interval and LOVE LOVE LOVE IT. A19 is incredible. One question. Does stage blood wash out or do I have new souvenir from London on my khakis ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 15:46:34 GMT
It should do, unless you're reapplying it night after night after night in which case your whites will eventually turn a fetching shade of pink that no further washing will remove.
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Post by Dr Tom on Nov 8, 2018 9:56:26 GMT
I was also there for the matinee yesterday and enjoyed it much more than my first visit.
I think the main reason was there a respectful behaved audience, nice and quiet, clapped in the right places. No mad cheering and no singing. Meant you could properly enjoy it.
The front central section of the Stalls was fairly full, but much less so in the other sections. I was mid way towards the back of the side Stalls with a clear view in front. Only downside is you can't see the left of the stage, but there are monitors for that.
Lots of covers on:
Barney Wilkinson as Strat Craig Ryder as Falco Christopher Cameron as Jagwire Eric Hallengren as Ladoux
All good.
I did think Barney seemed rather too young and cute to play Strat. I know the character is meant to be forever 18, but the life experience didn't quite come across. He did sing very well.
I thought Craig Ryder didn't quite have the presence for Falco, but again he sang well.
Have they put back on the pyros? It didn't seem as explosive as I remember.
Anyway, my faith in the show is restored. It has run its course in London, but I'd be quite happy to nip back again before it closes.
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Post by gdelgi on Nov 8, 2018 16:16:23 GMT
Just so sad. I imagine, based on their responses and the way it has happened, none of them will want anything to do with the producers so a whole new cast for New York I imagine. Hmmmm, I'd be VERY surprised if NYC goes ahead now as it was just a date on the tour, same producers etc. Plus for whatever reason, the producers have never been confident about Broadway, hence launching in UK first, then Canada, then planning a tour in US instead then going for a limited time at a non Broadway theatre. I find it odd as Bat is a million times better than half the rubbish that plays Broadway; but there we are! And surely Steinman (mainly known via Meatloaf) is massive in the USA. Very odd it's not sold well. I say get that UK tour to the big 6 venues up and running. And in the meantime I can hear Oberhausen calling me..... Near enough to Bochum to do a Starlight/Bat combo weekend. I'll be in Heaven :-) Per female lead Emily Schultheis on the tour's Facebook and Instagram, in response to official announcements, it would have to be a new cast: "TO CLEAR UP ANY CONFUSION: “everyone involved” does not include the 50+ people who were shipped back to new york jobless and homeless with no warning. we have been fired and have had our contracts terminated. Just to clear up any confusing or misleading statements being made." As for Steinman's fame in the U.S., guess again. As an American and a Steinman fan, I can only say I wish that were the case. In Europe, and possibly particularly in the UK, Meat Loaf and Jim Steinman's oeuvre is taken very seriously (I mean, sh*t, proof positive for me is that Tanz der Vampire is still getting produced long after the Broadway run killed its chances outside of continental Europe, although -- as another poster from this forum pointed out to me -- that may owe equally to Stage Entertainment being just awful at building a diversified portfolio of shows). Way more seriously than here, that is, where market research once indicated only 2% of the general public had any clue Jim was involved with the Bat Out of Hell albums (in general, a lot more people have heard his music, with or without Meat Loaf, than know he was involved with it), probably even less (outside of his fan circle) that the songs were originally intended for a musical, and where Meat and Jim's music is generally treated as the definition of a guilty pleasure. I should add that it probably didn't help that a) for anybody who was savvy about the American theater scene, the team behind it didn't look good (you're only as good as your last credit, and DOTV and Spider-Man is no sterling pedigree), and b) it might have gummed up the works a bit to have The Bat Experience touring at the same time, booking either the same venues -- or venues of a similar size -- in nearly all of their dates (frankly, I'll be very surprised if they don't clear their schedules and claim the musical's abandoned slots). Given the choice between a tribute act endorsed by Meat Loaf, featuring Meat Loaf alumni, and packaging the songs pretty much the way people have always seen/heard them, and a musical that was equal parts dystopian futuristic Peter Pan, dubious political commentary, and not quite found its footing yet, the average schmo is gonna pick the tribute band, because an evening out is expensive and at least from a tribute band they know what to expect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 17:08:05 GMT
Really interesting thoughts gdelgi - think you make some brilliant points. I honestly do think that could be it for US plans sadly, I just can't see it now. Delighted to be proved wrong of course!
Re Meatloaf/Steinman though, I don't think Steinman is a household name in UK either (certainly, a vast proportion of the Bat audience DO think they are at a Meatloaf tribute concert). And I do think in terms of the non regular MT goers it was Meatloaf songs that were the draw, not the musical. So I do still wonder why the 'Meatloaf' draw wasn't higher in the USA. Even if they don't know who Steinman is.
Funnily enough for me I didn't really know the Meatloaf songs but knew Steinman had composed Total Eclipse Of The Heart, and All Coming Back To Me Now (I was OBSESSED with the Celine Dion (full length) song as a teenager. I'm going off topic now, but as I mention that song there is a fab Jeremy Jordan rendition on YouTube). And went to Manchester purely to hear All Coming Back. And then became a massive fan of the show.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 18:26:39 GMT
I’m really just hear to reinforce that vote for Jezza Jordan singing that song. As you all were.
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