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Post by Jon on May 11, 2024 19:21:02 GMT
Is it just The Jamie Lloyd Company producing or are there other producers? Considering JL's other productions last year were fine and went without a hitch, it's strange that things have gone wrong. Didn’t he just very recently part ways with ATG to go solo?
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Post by westendboy on May 11, 2024 19:41:16 GMT
Normally, I'd say you have to take the daily mail with a huge pinch of salt. But the video of his arrival going around social media he doesn't look that happy at all, especially for him. Usually, it is one for smiling and waving, etc. (even if it's just an act) After seeing the video/photos you are referring to, I don't think these necessarily mean that he's definitely "unhappy". To me, it just looks like a more neutral expression, or a "resting bitch face" for all us Millennials/Gen Z'ers. I think it's just the media exaggerating due to the height of his celebrity. Then again, aside from the technical issues, no one really knows 100% what's going on behind the scenes, so we can't say for certain that it's all a big mess, or not. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on May 11, 2024 20:01:41 GMT
Normally, I'd say you have to take the daily mail with a huge pinch of salt. But the video of his arrival going around social media he doesn't look that happy at all, especially for him. Usually, it is one for smiling and waving, etc. (even if it's just an act) After seeing the video/photos you are referring to, I don't think these necessarily mean that he's definitely "unhappy". To me, it just looks like a more neutral expression, or a "resting bitch face" for all us Millennials/Gen Z'ers. I think it's just the media exaggerating due to the height of his celebrity. Then again, aside from the technical issues, no one really knows 100% what's going on behind the scenes, so we can't say for certain that it's all a big mess, or not. Yeah very true, but that's still unusual for him. Anyone else I wouldn't think twice, but for him he is usually 'on' when cameras are around arriving at places so that's what gives me pause for thought that there could be something in it |
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Post by sam22 on May 11, 2024 20:30:11 GMT
I was baffled when my friend told me how many stars are in this as I was sure they were wrong.
Turns out there's some clumsy reporting in the Daily Fail
"Tom, who is best known for playing Peter Parker in the latest Spider-Man movies, will star in the Jamie Lloyd Company's version of the romantic tragedy alongside Harry Potter star Alfred Enoch, Sir Ian McKellen, Game Of Thrones' Sean Bean and Richard Madden."
Unless I'm wrong and they've just cast all these people 🤣
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Post by Steve on May 11, 2024 20:38:17 GMT
I was baffled when my friend told me how many stars are in this as I was sure they were wrong. Turns out there's some clumsy reporting in the Daily Fail "Tom, who is best known for playing Peter Parker in the latest Spider-Man movies, will star in the Jamie Lloyd Company's version of the romantic tragedy alongside Harry Potter star Alfred Enoch, Sir Ian McKellen, Game Of Thrones' Sean Bean and Richard Madden." Unless I'm wrong and they've just cast all these people 🤣 Only Sir Ian McKellen can do two productions at once, that magnificent man! :-) |
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Post by sam22 on May 11, 2024 20:45:38 GMT
I was baffled when my friend told me how many stars are in this as I was sure they were wrong. Turns out there's some clumsy reporting in the Daily Fail "Tom, who is best known for playing Peter Parker in the latest Spider-Man movies, will star in the Jamie Lloyd Company's version of the romantic tragedy alongside Harry Potter star Alfred Enoch, Sir Ian McKellen, Game Of Thrones' Sean Bean and Richard Madden." Unless I'm wrong and they've just cast all these people 🤣 Only Sir Ian McKellen can do two productions at once, that magnificent man! :-) Lol 😆😆 I think they poorly copied it from another article which said "Other actors to have played Romeo on stage include Harry Potter star Alfred Enoch, The Lord Of The Rings actor Sir Ian McKellen, Game Of Thrones’ Sean Bean and Bodyguard actor Richard Madden." |
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Post by Steve on May 11, 2024 21:03:16 GMT
Only Sir Ian McKellen can do two productions at once, that magnificent man! :-) Lol 😆😆 I think they poorly copied it from another article which said "Other actors to have played Romeo on stage include Harry Potter star Alfred Enoch, The Lord Of The Rings actor Sir Ian McKellen, Game Of Thrones’ Sean Bean and Bodyguard actor Richard Madden." McKellen rides the drone from one theatre to the other, being filmed singing as he does it. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 12, 2024 7:05:34 GMT
The Daily Fail also said that Tom himself cancelled the preview. They are so incredibly dumb. And people will read this and believe it.
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Post by Dave B on May 12, 2024 8:42:15 GMT
The Daily Fail also said that Tom himself cancelled the preview. They are so incredibly dumb. And people will read this and believe it.
Could a star with the power of Tom Holland not cancel it? Perhaps a silly question and I know he isn't sending the emails cancelling it, but if he has turned around to Jame Lloyd etc and said 'no, it is not ready, I'm not doing it' would it not be fair to say he cancelled it himself?
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Post by andrew on May 12, 2024 9:19:43 GMT
The Daily Fail also said that Tom himself cancelled the preview. They are so incredibly dumb. And people will read this and believe it.
Could a star with the power of Tom Holland not cancel it? Perhaps a silly question and I know he isn't sending the emails cancelling it, but if he has turned around to Jame Lloyd etc and said 'no, it is not ready, I'm not doing it' would it not be fair to say he cancelled it himself?
If you can convince the producers then sure, but the financial cost of cancelling is enormous and I’d wonder if his contract allows him to refuse to go out without penalty. The breakdown in company relationships would be devastating as well. There’ll be no understudy though at this point though so if he won’t walk on stage then I suppose they would cancel. |
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on May 12, 2024 9:36:43 GMT
Could a star with the power of Tom Holland not cancel it? Perhaps a silly question and I know he isn't sending the emails cancelling it, but if he has turned around to Jame Lloyd etc and said 'no, it is not ready, I'm not doing it' would it not be fair to say he cancelled it himself?
If you can convince the producers then sure, but the financial cost of cancelling is enormous and I’d wonder if his contract allows him to refuse to go out without penalty. The breakdown in company relationships would be devastating as well. There’ll be no understudy though at this point though so if he won’t walk on stage then I suppose they would cancel. Looking at the website, it doesn't appear there is an understudy for Romeo (there is for Juliet and all other main roles). Also, I walked past the theatre last night at 7pm - front of house were outside, waiting for anyone who hadn't received the cancellation notification. Then I walked past again at 10pm - quite a few people waiting at stage door, including a couple who'd brought camping chairs with them! If you cross the road to the opposite side of the Duke of York's and walk down the side of the Coliseum, you can see the rooftop rig quite clearly. I guess that'll become an attraction, much like The Strand did during Sunset. |
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Post by parsley1 on May 12, 2024 10:02:49 GMT
The concept and reality that people actually pay £250 for a play in a west end theatre
Never fails to amaze me
Totally bizarre and flies in the face of the apparent cost of living crisis really
I genuinely wonder who the audience and demographic are who pay above £100 for theatre tickets
This is not a rarity either and several west end plays have had sellout or close to this runs so I suspect the prices are genuine
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Post by apubleed on May 12, 2024 10:07:09 GMT
The concept and reality that people actually pay £250 for a play in a west end theatre Never fails to amaze me Totally bizarre and flies in the face of the apparent cost of living crisis really I genuinely wonder who the audience and demographic are who pay above £100 for theatre tickets This is not a rarity either and several west end plays have had sellout or close to this runs so I suspect the prices are genuine Of course...there are a lot of wealthy people who live in London, tourists etc. |
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Post by theatrefan62 on May 12, 2024 10:24:24 GMT
Also cost of living crisis doesn't mean people aren't not spending, they just cut back on some things and prioritise others. Yes some are very badly affected, but many have just had to tighten belts and prioritise. Seeing a star they love live on stage will be a must for some, and they'll cut back elsewhere.
Anecdotally, but most people I know cut back on things like nights out, eating out etc. But the big treats like concerts, holidays are where any spare cash goes.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 12, 2024 13:39:49 GMT
The Daily Fail also said that Tom himself cancelled the preview. They are so incredibly dumb. And people will read this and believe it.
Could a star with the power of Tom Holland not cancel it? Perhaps a silly question and I know he isn't sending the emails cancelling it, but if he has turned around to Jame Lloyd etc and said 'no, it is not ready, I'm not doing it' would it not be fair to say he cancelled it himself?
The cancellation was unavoidable- and nothing to do with Tom Holland. |
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Post by helenfrombath on May 12, 2024 13:59:30 GMT
Actors Equity rules state that you absolutely must have an understudy/standby for every role represented on stage. Often times in productions where mega movie stars are playing the leads they will hire an understudy, but in name only, meaning that the producers know that if that star were to ever miss a performance, it would be much easier to cancel it than put the cover on, but there has to be someone under contract. Also, some understudies/standbys choose not to be listed for personal reasons or in this case it may be for security reasons.
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on May 12, 2024 14:06:17 GMT
Actors Equity rules state that you absolutely must have an understudy/standby for every role represented on stage. Often times in productions where mega movie stars are playing the leads they will hire an understudy, but in name only, meaning that the producers know that if that star were to ever miss a performance, it would be much easier to cancel it than put the cover on, but there has to be someone under contract. Also, some understudies/standbys choose not to be listed for personal reasons or in this case it may be for security reasons. Interesting - do we know if Sarah Snook had a cover for Dorian Gray? I can't see one listed in the programme. |
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Post by parsley1 on May 12, 2024 15:01:16 GMT
Also cost of living crisis doesn't mean people aren't not spending, they just cut back on some things and prioritise others. Yes some are very badly affected, but many have just had to tighten belts and prioritise. Seeing a star they love live on stage will be a must for some, and they'll cut back elsewhere. Anecdotally, but most people I know cut back on things like nights out, eating out etc. But the big treats like concerts, holidays are where any spare cash goes. I am sure they do Just a shame people cannot prioritise appropriately from an objective perspective |
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Post by jaggy on May 12, 2024 16:07:49 GMT
I believe the actor playing Paris is Tom’s understudy.
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Post by theatrefan62 on May 12, 2024 16:18:38 GMT
Also cost of living crisis doesn't mean people aren't not spending, they just cut back on some things and prioritise others. Yes some are very badly affected, but many have just had to tighten belts and prioritise. Seeing a star they love live on stage will be a must for some, and they'll cut back elsewhere. Anecdotally, but most people I know cut back on things like nights out, eating out etc. But the big treats like concerts, holidays are where any spare cash goes. I am sure they do Just a shame people cannot prioritise appropriately from an objective perspective But that is completely subjective depending on an individuals circumstances and interests. There's no right or wrong |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 1:56:27 GMT
Surely all understudies would be listed. There have been lots of one person shows over the years with big names appearing and they would all have to have an understudy.
How "big" would a name have to be for the understudy not to go on and the show be cancelled?
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 13, 2024 7:57:19 GMT
Guessing the preview is going ahead tonight if they haven’t announced cancellation yet?
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Post by aspieandy on May 13, 2024 8:20:36 GMT
For goodess sake, there is no 'cost of living crisis' for people on the Magic Money Tree - last time I looked, residetial property in my former ward of Lambeth had increased 120% in 10 years. Average priced property went from £350K to £750K, in a time of near zero interest rates.
Vote Conservative: we will give you guaranteed property inflation.
They are literally retiring 10-15 years earlier than others, downsizing (or cashing in on the buy-to-let), and paying - for example - whatever they want for threatre. The crisis is a housing crisis. And also a crisis of inexperience - people promoted at work beyond their experience and ability becasue so many senior managers bailed out in their early-mid 50s. |
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Post by BVM on May 13, 2024 8:29:44 GMT
LOL - people don't half get over excited and read a lot into things.
Likelihood is the show and cast are all fine.
It's hardly the first time a first preview has been cancelled due to technical issues.
Honesty, people just love drama!
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Post by curiouskc on May 13, 2024 8:50:41 GMT
Does anyone know when the £25 standing tickets go on sale each week? Or are the standing tickets dailies?
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