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Post by lynette on Jan 6, 2018 22:38:52 GMT
Got the brochure today. Loads of events and a season of events studying black culture in relation to Shakespeare. All good. But they left the prices off the brochure so you can’t choose seats according to price. I phoned them and the guy wearily told me I wasn’t the only one. The general range of prices is there under each play details but at the back the 'map' which is very small hasn't got anything else on cost. I’ve decided to go for Hamlet and As You Like It, Othello, Emilia and the event at Westminster. They are doing Hamlet and As You both on one day, Sundays, I think. They have put them together for some reason I can’t quite grasp. Would be nice for anyone who fancies a day on South Bank. Not for me this time because the seats are not comfortable enough for six hours.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 6, 2018 22:59:11 GMT
I think the logic is just that they were written around the same time, and would have likely been performed by the same company originally, which is kind of mind-boggling, admittedly, so they’re doing them in rep just to see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 23:19:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 7:23:11 GMT
The brochure is available online - www.shakespearesglobe.com/uploads/files/2018/01/summer_2018_brochure8.pdfSeems odd that there are only 10 performances each of Emilia and Eyam. And the brochure confirms there will be 4 pre-determined performances each of the touring productions at the Globe, and four "voter's choice" performances. And agree with Lynette that just saying "seated tickets from £22" is not particularly helpful! I think last year the cheapest seats were £20 so hopefully things haven't changed too much.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 9:21:08 GMT
And agree with Lynette that just saying "seated tickets from £22" is not particularly helpful! Many theatre brochures do this now.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 7, 2018 10:04:08 GMT
Got the brochure today. Loads of events and a season of events studying black culture in relation to Shakespeare. All good. But they left the prices off the brochure so you can’t choose seats according to price. I phoned them and the guy wearily told me I wasn’t the only one. The general range of prices is there under each play details but at the back the 'map' which is very small hasn't got anything else on cost. I’ve decided to go for Hamlet and As You Like It, Othello, Emilia and the event at Westminster. They are doing Hamlet and As You both on one day, Sundays, I think. They have put them together for some reason I can’t quite grasp. Would be nice for anyone who fancies a day on South Bank. Not for me this time because the seats are not comfortable enough for six hours. You a member Lynette? I mean to have brochure posted now. I was going to ring but thought they would tell ne to wait for public booking to open.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 10:06:36 GMT
Not a member, but I picked up a copy on Thursday morning at Shakespeare's Globe.
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Post by partytentdown on Jan 7, 2018 10:39:01 GMT
And agree with Lynette that just saying "seated tickets from £22" is not particularly helpful! Many theatre brochures do this now. This is so prices can be 'dynamic'. For example if they fix the price of each seat as soon as the season is announced, they could potentially have made more money if the show is a hit by increasing prices subtly during the run. Or conversely, if it's a flop, it's more difficult to reduce the price of seats to shift them. In reality it means that, for example, if it says 'From £22', they only have to guarantee a handful of seats at £22 at a busy Saturday night performance, but they may change hundreds of seats at a quiet matinee to that price. It's a commercially savvy thing to do and I'm surprised it's taken them this long to change the model.
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Post by partytentdown on Jan 7, 2018 10:42:27 GMT
Got the brochure today. Loads of events and a season of events studying black culture in relation to Shakespeare. All good. But they left the prices off the brochure so you can’t choose seats according to price. I phoned them and the guy wearily told me I wasn’t the only one. The general range of prices is there under each play details but at the back the 'map' which is very small hasn't got anything else on cost. I’ve decided to go for Hamlet and As You Like It, Othello, Emilia and the event at Westminster. They are doing Hamlet and As You both on one day, Sundays, I think. They have put them together for some reason I can’t quite grasp. Would be nice for anyone who fancies a day on South Bank. Not for me this time because the seats are not comfortable enough for six hours. You a member Lynette? I mean to have brochure posted now. I was going to ring but thought they would tell ne to wait for public booking to open. I spoke to them last year on the phone and they now only post brochures to paying members, which makes sense in terms of waste I guess. But there's a PDF on the website.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 10:56:03 GMT
Seems odd that there are only 10 performances each of Emilia and Eyam. And the brochure confirms there will be 4 pre-determined performances each of the touring productions at the Globe, and four "voter's choice" performances. It's pretty standard that any new non-Shakespeare plays have a surprisingly short run. It doesn't sound like it at first because of the date range, but counting performances reveals the limits. Good news about the pre-determined performances of the touring shows though, thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 12:50:48 GMT
Seems odd that there are only 10 performances each of Emilia and Eyam. There are 11 performances of Emilia and 10 of Eyam. Eyam plays in late September to mid October when many people are unwilling to risk freezing to death at the Globe. The audience capacity of 10 performances at the Globe is similar to a standard run at the Dorfman or Downstairs at the Royal Court.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 7, 2018 14:26:58 GMT
You a member Lynette? I mean to have brochure posted now. I was going to ring but thought they would tell ne to wait for public booking to open. I spoke to them last year on the phone and they now only post brochures to paying members, which makes sense in terms of waste I guess. But there's a PDF on the website. Thanx, the link on here crossed with my post.
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Post by lynette on Jan 7, 2018 14:53:16 GMT
Yes, I’m a priority booking person ( 'ark at 'er) and I can’t phone my Booking in, I have to fill in the form and post back which I have done. I don’t like the Internet Booking because I keep having to back and forth... well, usually, to be honest I haven looked at the Globe one. On the form there is a nice space for comments so I can ask for a particular seat which I do. I think they have added this comments space especially for me as before I used to write all over the margins of the form. I’m like that.
Last year I didn’t book for anything at the Globe. This year I’ve booked three and the Westminster Abbey gig. But I still paid as a supporter. I firmly believe in this Theatre. I was a supporter from the beginning before it was built. I think it is a super addition to the scene in all sorts of way. I don’t think it receives subsidies from the state does it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 15:40:56 GMT
I don’t think it receives subsidies from the state does it? As a registered charity, it benefits from GiftAid contributions from HMRC.
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Post by alexandra on Jan 12, 2018 15:06:51 GMT
Huh? What did I say in October 2016 about the Globe's 2018 season?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 15:38:12 GMT
Huh? What did I say in October 2016 about the Globe's 2018 season? No, unfortunately you have to make those kind of decisions in theatre (or you should) because the new AD has to start programming a year or so ahead. The new AD, or more likely an Usher promoted to the new substitute role of Acting Interim Master of Stage, won't need much lead time to cast and rehearse actors to spout straight off the page in shared lighting. They're not going to do actual theatre after Emma Rice leaves. I wish there was a "laugh" button, i.e. you didn't agree with it but it made you laugh. The opening double bill of the first season (Hamlet and As You Like It presented by The Globe Ensemble with no director) seems to me to be closer to my prediction than to an AD starting their programming a year or so ahead. Of course, the outcome may be revelatory.
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Post by alexandra on Jan 12, 2018 15:59:26 GMT
Planned spontaneity
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 12, 2018 18:06:05 GMT
Yes, I’m a priority booking person ( 'ark at 'er) and I can’t phone my Booking in, I have to fill in the form and post back which I have done. I don’t like the Internet Booking because I keep having to back and forth... well, usually, to be honest I haven looked at the Globe one. On the form there is a nice space for comments so I can ask for a particular seat which I do. I think they have added this comments space especially for me as before I used to write all over the margins of the form. I’m like that. Last year I didn’t book for anything at the Globe. This year I’ve booked three and the Westminster Abbey gig. But I still paid as a supporter. I firmly believe in this Theatre. I was a supporter from the beginning before it was built. I think it is a super addition to the scene in all sorts of way. I don’t think it receives subsidies from the state does it? No
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Post by jasper on Jan 12, 2018 18:45:15 GMT
Yes, I’m a priority booking person ( 'ark at 'er) and I can’t phone my Booking in, I have to fill in the form and post back which I have done. I don’t like the Internet Booking because I keep having to back and forth... well, usually, to be honest I haven looked at the Globe one. On the form there is a nice space for comments so I can ask for a particular seat which I do. I think they have added this comments space especially for me as before I used to write all over the margins of the form. I’m like that. Last year I didn’t book for anything at the Globe. This year I’ve booked three and the Westminster Abbey gig. But I still paid as a supporter. I firmly believe in this Theatre. I was a supporter from the beginning before it was built. I think it is a super addition to the scene in all sorts of way. I don’t think it receives subsidies from the state does it? No While it does not at present receive a grant or subsidies form the Arts Council in 1995 it had £12.4 million form the Lottery Funding. This was to fund the completion of the building
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Post by lynette on Jan 12, 2018 21:59:09 GMT
At the start the fund raising of the Globe was amazing. Do you recall the bay they built? The obvious thing is to build up round and round but they realised that people wouldn't understand or visualise the finished building very well so they built a complete bay to let people see what it would be like. After that the money rolled in. And the wall, the named paving stones, the curtain , the events with Prince Philip and the 1000 club, with names up on the wall all strokes of genius that other places have failed to follow.
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Post by peggs on Jan 12, 2018 22:15:47 GMT
At the start the fund raising of the Globe was amazing. Do you recall the bay they built? The obvious thing is to build up round and round but they realised that people wouldn't understand or visualise the finished building very well so they built a complete bay to let people see what it would be like. After that the money rolled in. And the wall, the named paving stones, the curtain , the events with Prince Philip and the 1000 club, with names up on the wall all strokes of genius that other places have failed to follow. All sounds rather fun, only around for play house fund raising, I think I bought a brick for it.
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Post by partytentdown on Jan 13, 2018 20:51:10 GMT
At the start the fund raising of the Globe was amazing. Do you recall the bay they built? The obvious thing is to build up round and round but they realised that people wouldn't understand or visualise the finished building very well so they built a complete bay to let people see what it would be like. After that the money rolled in. And the wall, the named paving stones, the curtain , the events with Prince Philip and the 1000 club, with names up on the wall all strokes of genius that other places have failed to follow. A friend of mine who used to work in the Globe's fundraising team told me that although there were lots of creative fundraising ideas in the early years, they all raised proportionately tiny amounts. Those paving stones basically didn't raise any money because they only just covered their own cost. They are also now faced with a huge cost to replace them all as they have degraded over time and face the dilemma of whether they should carve all those names into them again at great expense. Some of have been covered for years by temporary buildings. A couple of years ago when they remodelled the foyer they had to remove a wall of donors (of people who had paid tiny amounts to be up there) which caused a minor riot from people suddenly appalled to find their small donations from 20 years ago no longer acknowledged (and put more fuel in the Get Emma Rice Out fire). Basically spaces that could now potentially be sold for thousands aren't available because of short term thinking back in the day. Interesting...
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Post by partytentdown on Jan 13, 2018 21:57:47 GMT
from people suddenly appalled to find their small donations from 20 years ago no longer acknowledged (and put more fuel in the Get Emma Rice Out fire). Basically spaces that could now potentially be sold for thousands aren't available because of short term thinking back in the day. Interesting... It really is. I was one of those "way back then" who for several years paid to support the idea... and was treated like c*ap for my troubles, along with everyone else who wasn't in an apparent clique. Fascinating that those other well-meaning donors were treated in that fashion too. what happened?
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Post by lynette on Jan 14, 2018 13:58:34 GMT
Hmmm tiny amounts on the foyer wall? Not so tiny in the olden days ( the 1000 club was people who gave £1000 either one lump or in staged payments ) and out of taxed income. What do people expect? If you donate to a cause, you don’t expect continued obeisance. I agree the way some alterations to the building have covered the names or had them moved is a pity but even the tiny amounts contributed to the place as it stands with all the good work done in it, Emma's contribution included. The fund raising ideas died out somewhat but maintenaince is harder to sell than bricks. Everyone knows that to raise more dosh you ask the people who have already given and they haven’t done that vigorously enough. I’m sorry if people don’t feel happy. And amusingly I don’t understand the clique reference so proving that either I am very much in it or so far out of it that I am oblivious to any such thing.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 14, 2018 14:11:25 GMT
It’s a funny old thing, fundraising. When we saw Hamlet at RADA they had ushers with buckets for extra donations on the door, and we walked right by them muttering ‘get out of it, we just paid you a £95 ‘donation’ each!’ Normally the bucket-rattling ushers get me every time but it just seemed cheeky to be asking for more.
If you keep asking the people who have already given, they eventually get fed up. And if they don’t they start to feel entitled to a say in how you spend ‘their’ money.
The best approach is for a lot of people to be giving a little bit each, rather than relying on a small pool of donors.
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