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Mar 19, 2019 21:20:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 21:20:26 GMT
John Bercow is due to step down soon anyway and he'll be Happy ( In a Production of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs at Forum Theatre Billingham at the end of the year).
Really Brexit is a complete cluster****, the voters feel ignored, both sides are angry, the country is in limbo.
Surely someone needs to say to all the MPs what kind of deal would they accept and then put the two sharpest MPs regardless of party to head the negotiations. Sir Kier Starmer the Labour Brexit Secretary and someone like JRM spring to mind.
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Mar 19, 2019 21:27:23 GMT
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Post by Backdrifter on Mar 19, 2019 21:27:23 GMT
John Bercow is due to step down soon anyway and he'll be Happy ( In a Production of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs at Forum Theatre Billingham at the end of the year). Really Brexit is a complete cluster****, the voters feel ignored, both sides are angry, the country is in limbo. Surely someone needs to say to all the MPs what kind of deal would they accept and then put the two sharpest MPs regardless of party to head the negotiations. Sir Kier Starmer the Labour Brexit Secretary and someone like JRM spring to mind. JRM isn't especially sharp and with his desire for no-deal a JRM/Starmer spearhead wouldn't ever happen. |
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Mar 19, 2019 21:31:40 GMT
Post by Phantom of London on Mar 19, 2019 21:31:40 GMT
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Mar 19, 2019 21:51:59 GMT
Post by Phantom of London on Mar 19, 2019 21:51:59 GMT
The people who should be blamed for lack of Brexit are Jacob Rees Mogg and Boris Johnson and the rest of the European Research Group who would have had Brexit on a plate in a couple of weeks time, if they backed Theresa May’s bill, Britain 🇬🇧 would have been out of the jurastrixtion of Brussels/Strasbourg and Britain would have been free to strike its own trade deals around the world, but because of these Eton public school elites, have scuppered Brexit, in pursuit of putting their on ambitions first. They have gone against he will of the people.
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Mar 19, 2019 23:48:19 GMT
Post by n1david on Mar 19, 2019 23:48:19 GMT
Still waiting for that "everything's going to be fine" to kick in. Still waiting. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Mar 20, 2019 0:11:48 GMT
The people who should be blamed for lack of Brexit are Jacob Rees Mogg and Boris Johnson and the rest of the European Research Group who would have had Brexit on a plate in a couple of weeks time, if they backed Theresa May’s bill, Britain 🇬🇧 would have been out of the jurastrixtion of Brussels/Strasbourg and Britain would have been free to strike its own trade deals around the world, but because of these Eton public school elites, have scuppered Brexit, in pursuit of putting their on ambitions first. They have gone against he will of the people. If we blame Johnson and Mogg for anything it's their contribution to the lies that created the illusion of brexit as an easy achievable and desirable thing. What we are witnessing is the clash between false promises and practical reality, a point to which we have been brought thanks to a referendum that took no account of all the possible different brexits, and a result achieved through cheating, dog whistles and lies. And don't assume brexit is scuppered. As things stand, we still do not know that we won't tumble chaotically out next Friday with no deal. It's 9 days to brexit, and we still don't know if it's 9 days to brexit. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Mar 20, 2019 0:24:48 GMT
Still waiting for that "everything's going to be fine" to kick in. Still waiting. And with 9 days to go I'm still waiting for the list of practical real-world reasons for exactly why we are doing this, and how it will tangibly help the poorest and most vulnerable people in the UK. (silence) |
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Mar 20, 2019 0:30:06 GMT
Post by lynette on Mar 20, 2019 0:30:06 GMT
It's like the awkward brigade were all waiting for a moment they could so graciously allow the 'deal' to go through but the carpet has been pulled from under their feet. No nice moment, no grateful nation, no jobs in a future Tory government. They must be sick as a parrot.
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Mar 20, 2019 0:36:04 GMT
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Post by karloscar on Mar 20, 2019 0:36:04 GMT
Every time they interview a European politician or journalist, they seem to understand the situation far better than any of the UK numpties who don't have a clue what to do next. Maybe a bit of distance helps, but they seem to have concluded that Britain's problem was never the EU, and it's up to us to sort out the mess that is Westminster.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 20, 2019 3:09:22 GMT
I have an appointment scheduled on the morning of 15th April to have my documents scanned as part of my application for the EU Settlement Scheme.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 5:12:32 GMT
And with 9 days to go I'm still waiting for the list of practical real-world reasons for exactly why we are doing this, and how it will tangibly help the poorest and most vulnerable people in the UK. Because the EU is full of foreigners who are simultaneously so incompetent that they're ruining Britain and so devilishly cunning that they thwart us at every turn, so by getting rid of them we'll automatically go back to the land of rainbows and unicorns that Britain used to be. |
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Mar 20, 2019 7:22:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 7:22:16 GMT
Meanwhile President Trump's son is saying that democracy in the UK is "almost dead". He might have a point, but the message is somewhat marred considering that it comes from the son of someone who goes over the heads of his own government whenever he doesn't get his way.
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Mar 20, 2019 7:51:52 GMT
Post by vdcni on Mar 20, 2019 7:51:52 GMT
Yeah a bit rich from a country where one of the parties actively tries to prevent people from voting and gerrymandering runs riot.
Meanwhile looks like May is only going to ask for a short delay, I suppose inevitable given that she has consistently put the interests of the Tory party over the country and a long delay looked like it would cause a split in the party. Be interesting to see the strength of the peoples vote march in London on Saturday.
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Mar 20, 2019 9:01:36 GMT
Post by Phantom of London on Mar 20, 2019 9:01:36 GMT
I have an appointment scheduled on the morning of 15th April to have my documents scanned as part of my application for the EU Settlement Scheme. Good luck with that and I am certain you will be successful, but still it is stress you don’t need. With Australia, New Zealand and Canada, there have always been people moving both ways to live and work, sometimes people don’t meet the criteria and cannot move, so therefore I have never understood why the UK doesn’t have a unique open borders freedom of movement agreement with the 3 countries. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 9:21:39 GMT
It's like the awkward brigade were all waiting for a moment they could so graciously allow the 'deal' to go through but the carpet has been pulled from under their feet. According to reports, that's exactly what did happen. |
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Mar 20, 2019 20:05:48 GMT
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 20, 2019 20:05:48 GMT
Are we all going to be saying this 8.30?
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Mar 20, 2019 20:48:13 GMT
Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 20, 2019 20:48:13 GMT
John Bercow is due to step down soon anyway and he'll be Happy ( In a Production of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs at Forum Theatre Billingham at the end of the year). Really Brexit is a complete cluster****, the voters feel ignored, both sides are angry, the country is in limbo. Surely someone needs to say to all the MPs what kind of deal would they accept and then put the two sharpest MPs regardless of party to head the negotiations. Sir Kier Starmer the Labour Brexit Secretary and someone like JRM spring to mind. JRM isn't especially sharp and with his desire for no-deal a JRM/Starmer spearhead wouldn't ever happen. Definitely one caught in that fishing net |
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Post by david on Mar 20, 2019 21:18:55 GMT
That was completely underwhelming. She told us absolutely nothing that we didn’t know already and apparently no new information about going forward. Blaming MPs but taking no personal responsibility for this mess is totally shameful for the PM. Her own credibility is shot to pieces, but I don’t see how a MV3 can go ahead as has already been stated as nothing is going to substantially change with the current situation.
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Mar 21, 2019 8:03:42 GMT
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 21, 2019 8:03:42 GMT
That was completely underwhelming. She told us absolutely nothing that we didn’t know already and apparently no new information about going forward. Blaming MPs but taking no personal responsibility for this mess is totally shameful for the PM. Her own credibility is shot to pieces, but I don’t see how a MV3 can go ahead as has already been stated as nothing is going to substantially change with the current situation. Thats all very well dear but its not her fault, remember? |
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Post by Backdrifter on Mar 21, 2019 8:32:56 GMT
Just when you think there are no further ways for May to demonstrate she's the worst PM ever, she finds one.
Blaming parliament for her own incompetence, pitching parliament against the people, which is how the seeds of fascism are sown. She is an absolute disgrace.
And while it's for an utterly horrible reason that Jacinda Ardern is so much in the global spotlight right now, I look at her and see a dignified leader as far removed from May in both geography and quality as is possible.
Dear future historians: please ensure you give Theresa May the biographical and analytical kicking she deserves.
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Post by vdcni on Mar 21, 2019 8:33:27 GMT
I know these things don't normally go anywhere but since I can't make the march on Saturday I felt the need to do something so have signed. petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584Under 100k before May's speech so the current number gives you some of idea of how that went down! It's quite astonishing that we've managed to have the bad luck of both the worst possible Prime Minister and leader of the opposition to handle this crisis. |
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Mar 21, 2019 9:54:06 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 9:54:06 GMT
I know these things don't normally go anywhere but since I can't make the march on Saturday I felt the need to do something so have signed. petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584Under 100k before May's speech so the current number gives you some of idea of how that went down! It's quite astonishing that we've managed to have the bad luck of both the worst possible Prime Minister and leader of the opposition to handle this crisis. Conveniently down now. |
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Mar 21, 2019 10:00:03 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 10:00:03 GMT
Once it's back up, only visit it if you're signing it. If you've already signed it and just want to watch the numbers go up, you're what's upsetting the website and causing it to go down.
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Mar 21, 2019 10:00:32 GMT
Post by vdcni on Mar 21, 2019 10:00:32 GMT
It's been up and down a lot in the last hour - the sheer numbers trying to get on the website presumably.
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