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Post by anthony40 on Aug 24, 2023 14:23:22 GMT
From what I've read, Frasier left Seattle and is now back in Boston and focuses on his relationship with his son Ferry, who is now grown up and became a fireman.
No Marty Crane- Frasier's father- the actor who played him passed away.
No Daphne and Niles- both actors passed on the opportunity to be in it. Presumably both character still happily married back in Seattle.
However the only character from the original series who will return infrequently is Roz, Fraiser's friend and radio producer. Oh and his ex-wife, Lilith.
Apparently will be screened on Paramount Plus, before, I'm assuming, being screen on terrestrial television in time. Not sure when.
I don't have Paramount Plus however will be interested to see if the writing and comedy is up to the same standard.
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Post by marob on Aug 24, 2023 15:52:37 GMT
They’ve been talking about this for ages, I thought it was still just at development stage, but it starts in October and there’s a teaser.
10 episodes, 2 the first week, the rest made available weekly.
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Post by karloscar on Aug 25, 2023 19:45:51 GMT
Frasier was always the least funny/interesting of the central characters. No Eddie to steal the show either. It'll be interesting to see if it works with a largely new cast.
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Post by anthony40 on Aug 26, 2023 18:40:36 GMT
Apparently when screening the pilot episode it was when Eddie was introduced and the polar opposite reactions from both Fraiser and Marty Crane that sold it to the network.
Two completely useless, yet interesting facts about Peri Gilpin.
Fact 1- When assembling the cast for the original series, all were in place except the actress to play Roz Doyle, Frasier's friend and radio producer.
It came down to Lisa Kudrow and Peri Gilpin and Peri just had that extra edge that the the casting agents felt the character required. Whilst loosing out on this job, things worked out okay for Lisa Kudrow because she not long after got cast in the role of Phebe in Friends; and look how long and for how many series both Friends and Frasier ran for.
Fact 2- The other interesting thing about Peri Gilpin that I learnt only this morning is that the actor who played Chief Brody's youngest son in Jaws 2, was her actual younger brother in real life..
Next time you go to a local quiz night and the ask what's the connection between Jaw and Frasier, there's your answer!
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Post by ladidah on Aug 30, 2023 8:10:04 GMT
I worship Frasier, one of my all time favourites. It ended beautifully, and I really dislike this trend of just rehashing old shows. The magic has gone!
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Post by Dr Tom on Aug 30, 2023 18:36:28 GMT
I just think it's remarkable that they've got Nicholas Lyndhurst in as the main co-star, purely because Kelsey enjoyed working with him in London on Man of La Mancha.
Frasier is one of my favourite TV shows of all time. It got to the stage that I'd watched the whole run too many times that I've not looked at an episode in several years. At some stage, I hope to rewatch and that everything feels really fresh.
I do think that this one is ripe for reinvention. After all, the main character started in Cheers. My only gripe is that it's such a short season (only 10 episodes), so it will barely feels like it's got going.
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Post by karloscar on Sept 12, 2023 9:41:53 GMT
Apparently Freddy (Frasier and Lilith's son) takes after his grandpa Marty much to his father's displeasure, and Niles and Daphne's son David is living with Uncle Frasier while studying in Boston, so they seem to have kept the intergenerational tensions in place with the passage of time. Much depends on how the cast gel together, but it sounds promising.
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 12, 2023 10:12:10 GMT
As the actor died, and it's set in a different city, obviously the character of Marty can't be in it. But with Marty came Eddie, the dog, who- in has own way- was a character.
I wonder if they have incorporated a similar character? And if the writing is up to the same standard?
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 16, 2023 20:41:55 GMT
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Post by talkingheads on Sept 16, 2023 22:18:52 GMT
I'm perfectly willing to accept that this will be good. But it needs pitch perfect writing. Without that, it becomes just another bland sitcom. Frasier had some of the best comedy scripts ever written, I'm thinking particularly of the Ski Lodge episode. I love that Nicholas Lyndhurst is back in a sitcom after so many years.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Sept 21, 2023 7:42:59 GMT
Does Frazier you plonker translate?
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Post by anthony40 on Sept 21, 2023 13:15:51 GMT
I'm perfectly willing to accept that this will be good. But it needs pitch perfect writing. Without that, it becomes just another bland sitcom. Frasier had some of the best comedy scripts ever written, I'm thinking particularly of the Ski Lodge episode. Niles: "I'm not gay, Ghee!" And after everyone is chasing after each other Frasier standing on the landing of the staircase, bare chested with towel around his waste haughtily shouting "You mean to tell me that with all this running around, nobody is chasing me!"
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Post by anthony40 on Oct 26, 2023 8:24:11 GMT
So, for anyone who's watched it, is it any good?
Is it of the same standard of the original series?
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Post by karloscar on Oct 26, 2023 14:19:17 GMT
Worth watching for Jack Cutmore-Scott as Frederick, who's now a firefighter and takes after his grandfather Marty. (Another British actor doing well playing American characters on US television without them noticing he's not a native until he appears as himself on chatshows. )
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 0:49:13 GMT
Good to see the show has returned, it seems weird initially hearing Nicholas Lyndhurst's voice in with the US actors and you do get the thought of Frasier and Rodney together sometimes. Kelsey clearly liked working with Nicholas on stage and wanted him in the reboot which is a nice bonus for Nick.
As regards only 10 episodes, wasn't Kelsey on crazy money towards the end of Frasier and he'd have had to have a huge offer to reprise the role. Plus he has had some health issues and is nearing 70 now so maybe the idea of the 24-26 episode season didn't appeal to him. The writers would need to produce hell of a lot more scripts for the longer runs so you have the schedule whereby a shorter run may not have such a quick turn around for each episode, the script quality is higher, the stress and workload on everyone is less so everyone is happy.
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Post by anthony40 on Oct 27, 2023 8:22:12 GMT
The longest running character in an American sitcom was Archie Bunker in a show called All In The Family and Kelsey Grammar has said publicly on many an occasion that he wanted to break that record.
What with the character first appearing in Cheers and then into it's own show, as Frasier, he has successfully done that.
I saw a 90 second clip yesterday and replacing Eddie, Frasier has a new nemesis- a dalmation puppy!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 14:39:41 GMT
The longest running character in an American sitcom was Archie Bunker in a show called All In The Family and Kelsey Grammar has said publicly on many an occasion that he wanted to break that record. What with the character first appearing in Cheers and then into it's own show, as Frasier, he has successfully done that. I saw a 90 second clip yesterday and replacing Eddie, Frasier has a new nemesis- a dalmation puppy! Archie Bunker was in 9 series of All in the Family and then another 4 in Archie Bunker's Place clocking up just over 300 episodes. Frasier did 264 episodes in its original 11 series run so would be 274 now with the 10 part series. So Frasier hasn't been in as many episides yet as the main character as Archie Bunker but with his appearances in Cheers he must be the comedy character with most appearances by some mile in modern times. Lucile Ball had numerous series playing a variation on the same character ( an exaggerated version of herself) but what her total appearances were I don't know and counting all those would be like counting over shows Kelsey has been in or say Mary Tyler Moore in the Dick Van Dyke Show and then her own show. Archie Bunker was reported to have been based on Alf Garnett in Till Death Do Us Part. Warren Mitchell played that role quite regularly for about 33 years on stage and screen so that bigoted character had an amazing shelf life. It could never be shown today due to the racially offensive and homophobic language the character used but the writing was to show that Alf was a bigot and an idiot. A lot of BAME people apparently liked the show and used to congratulate Warren Mitchell on it. But a lot of people used to say to him I love it how you take it out of "*****" and Warren would reply "No we are talking it out of ****** idiots like you". The scene from Till Death Do Us Part that always cracked me up was when the son in law suggests Alf has Jewish heritage and Alf goes mad and nearly ends up in tears when his British credentials are challenged. Warren Mitchell of course had Jewish heritage so the joke that the character was Jewish landed perfectly. The writer had had it in mind for a couple of series before suggesting it to Warren they do that joke and Warren thought it would be great so they created one of the shows' funniest scenes.
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Post by marob on Oct 27, 2023 15:48:43 GMT
Would they count The Simpsons? That has somehow made it to over 750 episodes.
Decided to go back to the beginning as both Cheers and Fraiser are available to download for free from Channel 4 (only until 31st). Have only made it up to season 2 of Cheers so far, so with another twenty seasons to go after that it’s going to take me quite a while.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 17:29:15 GMT
Would they count The Simpsons? That has somehow made it to over 750 episodes. Decided to go back to the beginning as both Cheers and Fraiser are available to download for free from Channel 4 (only until 31st). Have only made it up to season 2 of Cheers so far, so with another twenty seasons to go after that it’s going to take me quite a while. Some sites listing longest running comedy shows include the Simpsons, Familu Guy, South Park etc and some don't so I think that is a personal choice what we recognise and don't. Some shows or classic episodes of shows are timeless but some with too many cultural references or guest stars from their original broadcast period maybe don't age as well or the references are lost on a lot of the audience. But say a classic episode like "Chuckles Bites the Dust" from the Mary Tyler Moore Show is still hillarious today. Or taking it back towards Frasier some of Nicholas Lyndhurst's Fools and Horses moments such as the Chandelier episode are just timeless. I wonder if Frasier writers would slip a "Dave" line in as a little Easter Egg for those who know.
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