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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 24, 2023 21:48:11 GMT
Well lets be honest here, republicans aren't exactly the target audience for Cabaret. It's woke as it gets and it premiered in 1966! Mulvaney should never be considered for this role. If it is a way of getting the production into the public eye but with zero intention of casting such a divisive figure then job done. But if it were ever to happen, it would be stunt casting of the worst possible sort.
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Post by marob on Aug 24, 2023 21:54:50 GMT
This is one of those productions that insists on listing everyone’s pronouns in the programme, so it may be stunt-casting but it’s on-brand stunt casting.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 24, 2023 22:12:16 GMT
I know many people who have been to see it in London and who don't buy into modern gender ideology.
People love the show and are intrigued by the new production. That is why they book. Not having pronouns in the programme.
I still contend that Mulvaney would not be wise casting.
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Post by elizapot on Aug 25, 2023 6:21:43 GMT
I know many people who have been to see it in London and who don't buy into modern gender ideology. People love the show and are intrigued by the new production. That is why they book. Not having pronouns in the programme. I still contend that Mulvaney would not be wise casting. I think it pretty much makes perfect sense. Having a trans Emcee fits the show itself, Mulvaney was a musical theatre actress before she transitioned so she can probably sing pretty well, and she’s popular with an audience that otherwise might not see Cabaret. I also think transphobia is much more of a right-wing/Republican thing there than it is say purely a Conservative thing here, and I don’t think that’s the target audience for this show!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 25, 2023 10:11:27 GMT
But they aren't considering Mulvaney for the Emcee, the reports are very clear that the audition was for Sally.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Aug 26, 2023 10:07:58 GMT
But they aren't considering Mulvaney for the Emcee, the reports are very clear that the audition was for Sally. “modern gender ideology” is a bit tin foil hat… “Wanting to be happy in the body they have” feels a lot more cheery!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2023 11:37:30 GMT
Whether or not Mulvaney is right for Cabaret, some producers might be leery of the casting after the significant financial damage Anheiser-Busch experienced from its Bud Light promotion with her.
Perhaps the subsequent boycott after her innocuous TikTok was a one-off success, but it unleashed a drop in sales that still lingers months later.
Now would those who boycotted the beer otherwise attend this show? Many probably would not and perhaps any backlash would be brief and generate nothing but a bit of media buzz. It's hard to know for sure how things might play out.
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Post by elizapot on Aug 26, 2023 12:53:17 GMT
But they aren't considering Mulvaney for the Emcee, the reports are very clear that the audition was for Sally. Apologies, meant to say Sally- I think everything I said applies to both roles. Also, to the post above, surely the “Bud Light” audience and the “Cabaret” audience would be two non-intersecting circles on a Venn diagram, I can’t imagine that having any measurable effect.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 26, 2023 13:00:13 GMT
It isn't directly about people who may or may not book. It is about the level of negative publicity and bad feeling that would be created.
And not all publicity is good publicity.
All productions on this scale need people from outside the hardcore audience audience group in order to thrive.
Casting this person as Sally would have a negative effect and I believe it would hurt sales.
I cannot see an artistic or business reason for such a casting choice were it ever to be made.
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Post by elizapot on Aug 26, 2023 13:21:02 GMT
It isn't directly about people who may or may not book. It is about the level of negative publicity and bad feeling that would be created. And not all publicity is good publicity. All productions on this scale need people from outside the hardcore audience audience group in order to thrive. Casting this person as Sally would have a negative effect and I believe it would hurt sales. I cannot see an artistic or business reason for such a casting choice were it ever to be made. I really don’t see how it would create negative publicity, and bad feeling, what does that actually mean? She’s a well known influencer who’s popular with younger generations and studied musical theatre in university, I really don’t see how it would be particularly controversial? (Although, given that you went with “this person” instead of “her”, I suspect I know why you’ve come to that genius conclusion)
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 26, 2023 13:41:30 GMT
You appear not to be fully aware of recent events. It is not just the Bud Light reaction. It goes beyond that.
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Post by Jon on Sept 20, 2023 21:13:47 GMT
$24.25 million capitalisation. Costliest revival to date. Weekly break even around 1.2 million. If tickets average $176, recoupment would take 4.5 years. 1050 seats (source:http://broadwayjournal.com/cabaret-at-24-million-is-broadways-costliest-revival-exclusive/) Ato Blankson-Wood is said to be Cliff Eddie Redmayne is signed for 6 months They already have replacements to on after Eddie and Gayle. $24 million is insane, I think only Potter and Moulin Rouge were higher.
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Post by 42ndBlvd on Sept 20, 2023 21:39:14 GMT
$24.25 million capitalisation. Costliest revival to date. Weekly break even around 1.2 million. If tickets average $176, recoupment would take 4.5 years. 1050 seats (source:http://broadwayjournal.com/cabaret-at-24-million-is-broadways-costliest-revival-exclusive/) Ato Blankson-Wood is said to be Cliff Eddie Redmayne is signed for 6 months They already have replacements to on after Eddie and Gayle. $24 million is insane, I think only Potter and Moulin Rouge were higher. Harry Potter is by far the most expensive broadway show in recent times. $68 million, a lot was spent on bribing the previous show to close so that they could come in and renovate it for Potter. Spiderman is only 7 million more expensive
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Post by theatrenerd on Oct 23, 2023 8:56:08 GMT
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Post by theatrenerd on Oct 23, 2023 12:03:09 GMT
Eddie Redmayne and Gayle Rankin now confirmed
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Post by andrew on Oct 23, 2023 13:45:15 GMT
The promo pics look amazing. Well done team.
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Post by distantcousin on Oct 23, 2023 15:28:07 GMT
It isn't directly about people who may or may not book. It is about the level of negative publicity and bad feeling that would be created. And not all publicity is good publicity. All productions on this scale need people from outside the hardcore audience audience group in order to thrive. Casting this person as Sally would have a negative effect and I believe it would hurt sales. I cannot see an artistic or business reason for such a casting choice were it ever to be made. I really don’t see how it would create negative publicity, and bad feeling, what does that actually mean? She’s a well known influencer who’s popular with younger generations and studied musical theatre in university, I really don’t see how it would be particularly controversial? (Although, given that you went with “this person” instead of “her”, I suspect I know why you’ve come to that genius conclusion)
Mulvaney is utterly toxic. No producer with any real business acumen would approve their casting.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Oct 23, 2023 17:07:21 GMT
I had to *Google Gayle Rankin and then remember the character she played in GLOW (still mourning that series - so brilliant)
*and The Greatest Showman
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Post by elizapot on Oct 23, 2023 18:18:38 GMT
I really don’t see how it would create negative publicity, and bad feeling, what does that actually mean? She’s a well known influencer who’s popular with younger generations and studied musical theatre in university, I really don’t see how it would be particularly controversial? (Although, given that you went with “this person” instead of “her”, I suspect I know why you’ve come to that genius conclusion)
Mulvaney is utterly toxic. No producer with any real business acumen would approve their casting.
Ahh, I see we’re going with “Mulvaney” and “their” instead of her, I don’t think this is a good faith argument! Being trans doesn’t make you toxic, especially in the U.S., which doesn’t have the weird “liberal” TERF phenomenon the UK has
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 25, 2023 8:31:18 GMT
Les move on from the Dylan Mulvaney story please.
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Post by raider80 on Nov 10, 2023 4:36:54 GMT
Bebe Neuwirth and Steven Skybell will be joining the cast as Fraulein Schneider and Herr Schultz. Fun fact, this production is now only one degree of separation from the original production (That's if I played the game correctly). Neuwirth did the 1996 Revival of Chicago with the original Emcee, Joel Grey. Cabaret Casting
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Post by theatrenerd on Apr 21, 2024 18:46:47 GMT
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Post by blaxx on Apr 22, 2024 5:27:06 GMT
The Broadway reviews were awfully harsh, some are complete pans.
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Post by blamerobots on Apr 22, 2024 6:12:25 GMT
Just got done reading a few of them. Some of them are just mean, especially to Gayle Rankin.
How is it looking in terms of bookings there? The barrier for entry for this one seems really high looking at some of the seat prices (not that it wasn't high in London, but at least on a good day a cheeky £30 at the very back of the balcony where not much is seen could get you IN the place.)
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Post by theatrefan62 on Apr 22, 2024 6:30:41 GMT
To be honest I think the broadway reviews are bit more spot on than the London raves. It was all very emperors new clothes to me.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 22, 2024 6:31:00 GMT
To be honest I think the broadway reviews are bit more spot on than the London raves. It was all very emperors new clothes to me. Agreed!
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Post by theatrefan62 on Apr 22, 2024 6:42:26 GMT
It also makes me wonder how Sunset will be received over there (a show I also felt similarly about).
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Post by viserys on Apr 22, 2024 6:52:31 GMT
To be honest I think the broadway reviews are bit more spot on than the London raves. It was all very emperors new clothes to me. Agreed! Agreed, too! Were they really harsh towards Gayle Rankin though or more towards how Sally is being played here - which I didn't like either, especially the stupid shouty "Cabaret" at the end? I also feel Broadway is less receptive to the gimmickry of turning the theatre inside out and upside down for a semi 'immersive' experience. Somehow the reviews now make me feel more validated in not being thrilled by the show when I saw it in London (in its first months with Eddie Redmayne and Jessie Buckley).
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