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Post by shownut on May 16, 2023 10:34:45 GMT
I struggle to consider CZJ as a “huge star”. She was last spotted selling towels on QVC. She still has huge celebrity cachet, trust me. CZJ would be an amazing choice. Ticks all the boxes of what could make a thrilling Norma.
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Post by Being Alive on May 16, 2023 10:46:13 GMT
CZJ would be fabulous.
I will certainly attend Nicole, but I have zero interest in anything Jamie Lloyd related I'll be honest.
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Post by jaggy on May 16, 2023 11:04:15 GMT
If it's really Nicole in no way would I consider her a "huge star". She's not on the same level as CZJ or Blanchett or even Waddingham and Williams imo.
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Post by theatrefan62 on May 16, 2023 11:06:40 GMT
If it's really Nicole in no way would I consider her a "huge star". She's not on the same level as CZJ or Blanchett or even Waddingham and Williams imo. Nicole feels like someone her people keep trying to make happen, but never really does. Mainly seems known these days for silly tiktoks with her BF and being permanently on holiday. But I think she has bigger name recognition than Hannah Waddingham or Vanessa Williams to the broader general public
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Post by mattnyc on May 16, 2023 11:23:41 GMT
I remember thinking Nicole would have been perfect for “Moulin Rouge” but would seem just such an odd pick for Norma. But I really do like her a lot so as odd as it seems, I’d still be there.
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Post by distantcousin on May 16, 2023 12:29:07 GMT
What to make of all this. It all sounds like one incoherent "rumour cauldron"!
No, I don't think Nicole reads right for the part - much as I love her.
I would love to see Jamie Lloyd direct it. And no, it doesn't seem a long enough of a gap between the various presentations of it in the past few years. It feels too soon. So if they're going to do it again, it has to be something extra special in terms of casting.
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Post by distantcousin on May 16, 2023 12:33:40 GMT
If it's really Nicole in no way would I consider her a "huge star". She's not on the same level as CZJ or Blanchett or even Waddingham and Williams imo. Nicole feels like someone her people keep trying to make happen, but never really does. Mainly seems known these days for silly tiktoks with her BF and being permanently on holiday. But I think she has bigger name recognition than Hannah Waddingham or Vanessa Williams to the broader general public La Waddingham is still not big/a household name or a "bums on seats". People might start to recognise her face more, particularly after "Eurovish" but Ted Lasso is not a mainstream show in this country either.
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Post by adamkinsey on May 16, 2023 13:16:52 GMT
Norma needs an bloody good actress who can sing, rather than a bloody good singer who can act, with the sort of stage presence that permeates every corner of the auditorium.
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Post by anthony40 on May 16, 2023 13:24:09 GMT
Norma needs an bloody good actress who can sing, rather than a bloody good singer who can act, with the sort of stage presence that permeates every corner of the auditorium. "Aren't you Norma Desmond? You use to be big!" "I am BIG! It's the pictures that got small!:
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Post by theatrefan62 on May 16, 2023 13:30:45 GMT
Norma needs an bloody good actress who can sing, rather than a bloody good singer who can act, with the sort of stage presence that permeates every corner of the auditorium. This!
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Post by alece10 on May 16, 2023 13:59:43 GMT
I'll believe this when I see something concrete. We seem to get loads of amazing rumours on here that have no foundation or come to nothing. However I'll be pleased if I'm wrong as I love this musical and if its CZJ I'm first in line to book.
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Post by distantcousin on May 16, 2023 14:04:32 GMT
CZJ has also developed a certain level of eccentricity in recent years (which we LOVE!!), and the fact she stepped back from acting until very recently (for "Wednesday") but had all but given up her successful film career of the 90's and early 2000's (I assume due to her bipolar disorder) does somewhat lean into the elusive/reclusive qualities of Norma herself.
She would be a wonderful fit in every respect.
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Post by anthony40 on May 16, 2023 14:13:59 GMT
Norma needs an bloody good actress who can sing, rather than a bloody good singer who can act, with the sort of stage presence that permeates every corner of the auditorium. "Aren't you Norma Desmond? You used to be in pictures. You use to be big!" "I am BIG! It's the pictures that got small!:
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Post by anthony40 on May 16, 2023 14:18:10 GMT
Sorry, double-post
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Post by showtoones on May 16, 2023 14:45:43 GMT
Is Sunset a limited run or is planned to be open ended? At least 5 months is what I'm hearing though if it's successful then it could see an extension. 42ndBlvd seems very sure of this and I have also heard it from another friend so I am choosing to believe the rumor for now lol. 42ndBlvd - is the source of this rumor quote credible?
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Post by anthony40 on May 16, 2023 14:48:02 GMT
I read of the rumour last night
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Post by robertb213 on May 16, 2023 14:53:29 GMT
Sounds fairly credible, but hopefully the talk of Nicole is just speculation. There are like a thousand better choices than her for this. She's great but she's not Norma. Satine in Moulin Rouge, absolutely.
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Post by showtoones on May 16, 2023 14:58:26 GMT
Sounds fairly credible, but hopefully the talk of Nicole is just speculation. There are like a thousand better choices than her for this. She's great but she's not Norma. Satine in Moulin Rouge, absolutely. I still think she'd be a dynamite Aurora in Kiss of the Spider Woman
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Post by LaLuPone on May 16, 2023 15:08:32 GMT
Someone else who I think would be a great Norma is Lea Salonga, not a big enough name and all booked up this Autumn but just hypothetically she’d kill it!
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Post by magnificentdonkey on May 16, 2023 15:25:03 GMT
I'd love to see Meryl give it a shot. Something tells me hers would be a Norma for the ages.
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Post by BVM on May 16, 2023 15:26:17 GMT
What to make of all this. It all sounds like one incoherent "rumour cauldron"! No, I don't think Nicole reads right for the part - much as I love her. I would love to see Jamie Lloyd direct it. And no, it doesn't seem a long enough of a gap between the various presentations of it in the past few years. It feels too soon. So if they're going to do it again, it has to be something extra special in terms of casting. This sums up where I am with this. I would love it to be true, but "rumour cauldron" no doubt. (Still awaiting the "definitely happening" Starlight Express announcement). Yes I don't really see Nicole in this either. Much as I think she's wonderful and her Memory was utterly jaw dropping. I would also like to see what Jamie Lloyd would do with this. OAT Evita was iconic. I always think we lack ambition and sell ourselves short with the endless actress who can sing/singer who can act debate which Sunset threads are particularly fond of. Aim high - this needs a COMPLETE double threat who is an amazing singer AND an amazing actress. I refuse to believe there aren't such people out there. (Since everyone chucks their fave names in, I personally think Victoria Hamilton Barritt would be incredible in this).
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Post by karloscar on May 16, 2023 15:40:08 GMT
What to make of all this. It all sounds like one incoherent "rumour cauldron"! No, I don't think Nicole reads right for the part - much as I love her. I would love to see Jamie Lloyd direct it. And no, it doesn't seem a long enough of a gap between the various presentations of it in the past few years. It feels too soon. So if they're going to do it again, it has to be something extra special in terms of casting. This sums up where I am with this. I would love it to be true, but "rumour cauldron" no doubt. (Still awaiting the "definitely happening" Starlight Express announcement). Yes I don't really see Nicole in this either. Much as I think she's wonderful and her Memory was utterly jaw dropping. I would also like to see what Jamie Lloyd would do with this. OAT Evita was iconic. I always think we lack ambition and sell ourselves short with the endless actress who can sing/singer who can act debate which Sunset threads are particularly fond of. Aim high - this needs a COMPLETE double threat who is an amazing singer AND an amazing actress. I refuse to believe there aren't such people out there. (Since everyone chucks their fave names in, I personally think Victoria Hamilton Barritt would be incredible in this). Everything is so "iconic" these days it's a totally meaningless term. I'm wearing my iconic 🩲, to match my iconic 🧦 while eating iconic🍕! There are other more imaginative adjectives out there!
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Post by newyorkcityboy on May 16, 2023 15:42:45 GMT
Just get Patti back - she can still sing the hell out of it, as she proved during her residency at Leicester Square.
I know, I know, she hates ALW and is busy now with marvel, but I can dream 😀
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Post by ilovewemusicals on May 16, 2023 15:49:24 GMT
I'd love to see Meryl give it a shot. Something tells me hers would be a Norma for the ages. This is the dream. Nicole S is good but she did “oversing” Reflection at the Coronation Concert just to showcase her voice. When she did act and sing it as written it was beautiful. She has the talent but I hope she focuses on the acting if she is our Norma.
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Post by Being Alive on May 16, 2023 15:59:11 GMT
42ndBlvd is correct in their info (as far as I'm aware anyway) - it lines up with things I'd heard at the weekend.
I'm under the impression this announcement is VERY imminent (they need to get it on sale after all)
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