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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 19, 2023 18:50:07 GMT
Oliver Tompsett?
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Post by mattnyc on May 19, 2023 19:07:40 GMT
He’s doing that new musical with Lena Hall, I believe. |
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Post by AddisonMizner on May 19, 2023 19:16:29 GMT
Rob Houchen? (Purely who I would want to see). Probably looks young enough alongside Nicole too.
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 19, 2023 19:18:03 GMT
Having seen the original production, I have zero interest in a reimagined version.
I know directors like to think they can do whatever they like but this is a piece with a very clear heritage and a very clear setting.
The score is very much written to evoke a film score and anything that takes the audience away from that world, that era, that look is not serving the piece.
It is absolutely possible to do a complete resign of set and costumes and to look a new nuances in the characters and their relationships. But that isn't what this director has a reputation for doing.
Add to that, a central casting that seems to make no dramatic sense (and given her love of riffing, very little musical sense) and it is a big no for me
Do I want to see the original recreated? Nope
Do I want the source material respected and the score given a proper treatment? Absolutely
Balloon dresses or plywood walls are not what I look for.
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Post by chernjam on May 19, 2023 19:29:48 GMT
Well first off, kudos to all those who started the speculation on here. When I saw the "rumor" posting that had "rumor" mentioned 5 times in the first 5 sentences I really didn't think it was a real story. Happy to be proven wrong. Sunset remains one of my all time favorites/tied with Aspects. So now I'm thinking I might have to bite the bullet and come in the Fall for a 4 day stay to see both (and maybe Phantom just because) - not a bad way to spend my 50th birthday  Anyway - the thing that gets me excited about this production - NS can sing. And if it has a full orchestra and its well sung, that is enough to make me happy. I saw a 70+ year old Glen Close with a 40 piece orchestra and practically no set 5 times and loved it each time. (Had zero interest in the actors play instruments interpretation) And I'm open to a new /fresh production. We have to remember, 30 years later the idea of "Silent films" is even more foreign to a modern audience. But the idea of being used and dismissed as a celebrity and the shattering it can do to a person is more relatable, even more so in a social-media obsessed world. So there's some universals here that could make this even more impactful for sure in the right hands. |
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Post by Jon on May 19, 2023 19:30:26 GMT
The fact that ALW has given his approval and is co-producing with Michael Harrison and ATG suggests he trust Jamie Lloyd to do something different to the material.
Honestly I think some on here just want carbon copies for all time with no room for reinvention.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 19, 2023 19:33:40 GMT
He’s doing that new musical with Lena Hall, I believe. Closes 5th August. |
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Post by karloscar on May 19, 2023 19:37:48 GMT
Quite. And Sunset is in no way a perfect show. I’ve never quite got over the fact that aside from the title song, the tune of which we hear all through act 1, there are only two new songs in Act 2 (AIWNSG and Too much in Love)…everything else is a reprise. I always feel like the the opening 20 minutes is wonderful and the rest is all a bit lazy. Just my opinion of course. It gets away with it by all the underscoring and ‘incidental’ music being luscious strings and atmospheric swells. Whilst they are mostly variations of the same tune they ain’t half gorgeous. This was my issue with the Watermill version…there wasn’t really enough power to ‘swell’. Even the underscore was borrowed from the Gumshoe and The Odessa File film scores that Lloyd Webber wrote in the early seventies. If you watch the trailer for Gumshoe, the title song from Sunset Boulevard is nearly all there, just in a jazzy arrangement. |
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Post by A.Ham on May 19, 2023 19:39:31 GMT
Oliver Tompsett would be great!
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Post by backtothetheatre on May 19, 2023 19:42:52 GMT
Oliver Tompsett would be great! I think he’d be good but he’s only a few years younger than Nicole. They look round about the same age so I don’t think it would work sadly. Would love to be proven wrong though. |
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Post by mattnyc on May 19, 2023 19:47:24 GMT
I’m curious if they’ll keep Norma in the wig with the grey hair peeking out underneath that (at least most I’ve seen) has been common.
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Post by theatremiss on May 19, 2023 19:59:40 GMT
I’m curious if they’ll keep Norma in the wig with the grey hair peeking out underneath that (at least most I’ve seen) has been common. I have a feeling NS wouldn’t want to be “aged” |
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Post by danb on May 19, 2023 20:09:26 GMT
It gets away with it by all the underscoring and ‘incidental’ music being luscious strings and atmospheric swells. Whilst they are mostly variations of the same tune they ain’t half gorgeous. This was my issue with the Watermill version…there wasn’t really enough power to ‘swell’. Even the underscore was borrowed from the Gumshoe and The Odessa File film scores that Lloyd Webber wrote in the early seventies. If you watch the trailer for Gumshoe, the title song from Sunset Boulevard is nearly all there, just in a jazzy arrangement. ….and…is that meant to diminish my enjoyment of it? |
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Post by max on May 19, 2023 20:56:36 GMT
I'd take this with a grain of salt, a VERY small grain (it's Jamie Lloyd after all) but I hear it's going to have a big set and that ALW wants to take to Broadway later down the line since the planned Evita revival is quote "not ready". Not sure if it will include Nicole as well but it's currently not in her contract to be first on Broadway. If true, how strange. What on earth would prompt him to build in the proviso that opening in London doesn't guarantee opening on Broadway? |
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Post by 42ndBlvd on May 19, 2023 21:02:49 GMT
I'd take this with a grain of salt, a VERY small grain (it's Jamie Lloyd after all) but I hear it's going to have a big set and that ALW wants to take to Broadway later down the line since the planned Evita revival is quote "not ready". Not sure if it will include Nicole as well but it's currently not in her contract to be first on Broadway. If true, how strange. What on earth would prompt him to build in the proviso that opening in London doesn't guarantee opening on Broadway? Let's just say that Andrew has learned not to promise actors things he can't or more rather, won't deliver. www.nytimes.com/1994/05/18/theater/lupone-settlement-on-sunset.html |
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Post by steve10086 on May 19, 2023 21:03:44 GMT
I'd take this with a grain of salt, a VERY small grain (it's Jamie Lloyd after all) but I hear it's going to have a big set and that ALW wants to take to Broadway later down the line since the planned Evita revival is quote "not ready". Not sure if it will include Nicole as well but it's currently not in her contract to be first on Broadway. If true, how strange. What on earth would prompt him to build in the proviso that opening in London doesn't guarantee opening on Broadway? Haha I wonder 🤣 |
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Post by theatrefan62 on May 19, 2023 21:14:08 GMT
God I hope not. Bradley Jaden springs to mind |
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Post by mattnyc on May 19, 2023 21:27:13 GMT
What’s Hadley Fraser doing?
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Post by max on May 19, 2023 21:41:38 GMT
I do wonder why people are so against shows being reimagined. Theatre isn't a museum piece that is the same for all eternity. Quite. And Sunset is in no way a perfect show. I’ve never quite got over the fact that aside from the title song, the tune of which we hear all through act 1, there are only two new songs in Act 2 (AIWNSG and Too much in Love)…everything else is a reprise. I always feel like the the opening 20 minutes is wonderful and the rest is all a bit lazy. Just my opinion of course. Aren't there 'sort of' 3 new songs in Act 2 - kicking off with the title song. We hear its introduction (not the main melody) before Joe's very first sung lines in Act 1, and the main melody does feature when Joe's car turns into the mansion during the musically wonderful 'Car Chase'. But isn't it substantially held back for the top of Act 2, or have a I forgotten another use in Act 1? I remember first seeing the show on the Faith Brown tour. I do agree there could be more new music in Act 2, but that had an interesting affect on 'Too Much In Love To Care'. Never my favourite on the CD it was absolutely brilliant in story placement, and I think that partly comes from it being a new breath of fresh air amidst the suffocating situation - borne out by the repeated music. That could just be an excuse for recycling Act 1's motifs - but in this case I think it does have meaning; while having a downside as well. |
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Post by jaybird89 on May 19, 2023 21:43:04 GMT
I’m curious if they’ll keep Norma in the wig with the grey hair peeking out underneath that (at least most I’ve seen) has been common. I have a feeling NS wouldn’t want to be “aged” I don't know I think she'd be up for it I get the impression she's quite a laugh and also think she takes acting things quite serious based on some interviews I've seen her do back in the day. |
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Post by danb on May 19, 2023 21:44:06 GMT
I’m not getting a lot of youthfulness from any of these suggestions. Joe isn’t a big sing so it would make sense to stunt cast this if anything. Could Jac Yarrow pull this off with a weeks stubble? JLG would be fine but a bit overexposed and the wrong side of camp.
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Post by LaLuPone on May 19, 2023 22:22:39 GMT
I’m not getting a lot of youthfulness from any of these suggestions. Joe isn’t a big sing so it would make sense to stunt cast this if anything. Could Jac Yarrow pull this off with a weeks stubble? JLG would be fine but a bit overexposed and the wrong side of camp. Jac’s doing the Sondheim concert. I always thought he’d make an awesome Joe one day when older. |
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Post by marob on May 19, 2023 22:37:56 GMT
Nicole Scherzinger is an odd choice. I’d have said she’s more of an Ulla from The Producers than a tragic middle-aged recluse but I’m sure she’ll sing the crap out of it. I find Jamie Lloyd very hit and miss, but seeing the promo for Chichester’s Assassins earlier on reminded me that the Menier Assassins was the first show of his I’d seen, and I remember thinking that was pretty good.
So I feel a bit more cautiously optimistic. But at the same time I really don’t want to see this be stripped back to nothing but a barefoot NS in jeans and a t-shirt, moping around in front of a big piece of salvaged MDF.
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Post by showtoones on May 19, 2023 23:25:30 GMT
They will likely attract a name for Joe…
But if they don’t, perhaps Jamie Muscato, Gavin Creel, or Josh Henry?
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