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Post by ceebee on Jun 6, 2023 13:46:58 GMT
You'd really hope ATG members might get a 24 hour window ahead of the presale rabble.
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Post by Rory on Jun 6, 2023 13:52:41 GMT
You'd really hope ATG members might get a 24 hour window ahead of the presale rabble. I agree. You pay your 35 quid you should get *at least* a two hour window ahead of the pre sale link folk.
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Post by jj9692 on Jun 6, 2023 13:56:46 GMT
Kind of gutted I miss it by a few days not in London again until the 9th January
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Post by A.Ham on Jun 6, 2023 14:06:45 GMT
You'd really hope ATG members might get a 24 hour window ahead of the presale rabble. Precisely. Who knows how many thousands have signed up for the presale! I'm tempted to cancel now :-(
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Post by theatrefan62 on Jun 6, 2023 14:32:06 GMT
Has Joe been cast?
He is just as important as Norma to me, and is so often cast weakly. Hope to know who it is before tickets go on sale
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Post by max on Jun 6, 2023 15:17:47 GMT
Quite brave of Nicole as the wording suggests this is indeed a full-on reimagining. Brave of ALW too, after some risks that have failed and that many enjoy failing.
Funny that someone who was sat near ALW at Regents Park Open Air told me he was certain ALW hated Jamie Lloyd's 'Evita'. I now assume that the witness didn't watch the ALW/BBC casting shows, and all the grimacing, gurning, fidgeting and flinching was actually ALW loving it!
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Post by A.Ham on Jun 6, 2023 17:38:34 GMT
Perhaps we spoke / assumed too soon - Iβve just had an email from ATG confirming the presale time, but also mentioning it includes exclusive tickets for ATG TheatreCard members only.
So it looks like thereβs a ringfenced allocation for members. Whether theyβll be on the dates / at the price bands we want though is anyoneβs guess!
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 6, 2023 18:45:00 GMT
Has Joe been cast? He is just as important as Norma to me, and is so often cast weakly. Hope to know who it is before tickets go on sale It won't be announced who it is before it goes on sale but yes, he's been cast.
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Post by ceebee on Jun 6, 2023 18:45:20 GMT
Perhaps we spoke / assumed too soon - Iβve just had an email from ATG confirming the presale time, but also mentioning it includes exclusive tickets for ATG TheatreCard members only. So it looks like thereβs a ringfenced allocation for members. Whether theyβll be on the dates / at the price bands we want though is anyoneβs guess! Thanks A.Ham - I've not received my email yet... is it a special link for ATG card holders?
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Post by topaz on Jun 6, 2023 18:58:51 GMT
Has Joe been cast? He is just as important as Norma to me, and is so often cast weakly. Hope to know who it is before tickets go on sale It won't be announced who it is before it goes on sale but yes, he's been cast. Any connection to your post in the Old Friends thread earlier today, or entirely separate?
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 6, 2023 19:09:13 GMT
Entirely separate to my knowledge - I don't know who is Joe, I just know it's been cast
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Post by A.Ham on Jun 6, 2023 19:21:10 GMT
Perhaps we spoke / assumed too soon - Iβve just had an email from ATG confirming the presale time, but also mentioning it includes exclusive tickets for ATG TheatreCard members only. So it looks like thereβs a ringfenced allocation for members. Whether theyβll be on the dates / at the price bands we want though is anyoneβs guess! Thanks A.Ham - I've not received my email yet... is it a special link for ATG card holders? Thereβs no link in the email so assume another one will be sent (with link) next week, or we just login and hope the additional seats will show as available? All I want is one good stalls seat that doesnβt cost the earth, so praying to the ticket Gods that Iβll be ok!
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Post by zahidf on Jun 6, 2023 19:39:15 GMT
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Post by anthony40 on Jun 6, 2023 20:04:37 GMT
You know what I hope? I hope that Nicole proves us all wrong and vocally is far more superior that we could have all anticipated.
I also hope that as a performer Nicole grows and develops personally and professionally- in terms of her acting and vocally.
There are so many levels to this show that, under the right direction. can be further explored and introduce this show to a new generation of musical theatre fans.
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 6, 2023 20:33:18 GMT
You know what I hope? I hope that Nicole proves us all wrong and vocally is far more superior that we could have all anticipated. I also hope that as a performer Nicole grows and develops personally and professionally- in terms of her acting and vocally. There are so many levels to this show that, under the right direction. can be further explored and introduce this show to a new generation of musical theatre fans.
this is true. And the concept of silent films is totally alien to anyone over the age of 40 now. I am 47 and remember little clips of them show on TV as a child, and sometimes referenced in comedic and light entertainment parodies.
But to anyone born in the 80's onwards, I would suggest the concept of "silent movies" is unfathomable.......
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Post by saral on Jun 6, 2023 20:34:12 GMT
Adore Sunset, not a Nicole fan putting it mildly, but seeing Old Friends in December, so I'm going to end up getting tickets for the matinee aren't π²
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Jun 6, 2023 20:37:37 GMT
You know what I hope? I hope that Nicole proves us all wrong and vocally is far more superior that we could have all anticipated. I also hope that as a performer Nicole grows and develops personally and professionally- in terms of her acting and vocally. There are so many levels to this show that, under the right direction. can be further explored and introduce this show to a new generation of musical theatre fans. Jamie Lloyd has a knack for getting performances out of people that perfectly complement his vision for the production β so I expect he will pull off the same thing here. With regards to "the new generation of MT fans" β is NS really a star draw any more? Who knows. I feel as though that argument only just about held water for Cats.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Jun 6, 2023 20:39:17 GMT
You know what I hope? I hope that Nicole proves us all wrong and vocally is far more superior that we could have all anticipated. I also hope that as a performer Nicole grows and develops personally and professionally- in terms of her acting and vocally. There are so many levels to this show that, under the right direction. can be further explored and introduce this show to a new generation of musical theatre fans.
this is true. And the concept of silent films is totally alien to anyone over the age of 40 now. I am 47 and remember little clips of them show on TV as a child, and sometimes referenced in comedic and light entertainment parodies.
But to anyone born in the 80's onwards, I would suggest the concept of "silent movies" is unfathomable.......
Sorry but that's a tad patronising and insulting. Just because you may not have watched a silent movie doesn't mean you don't know what they are. Just the same as people know what black and white movies were. Also, it's a story, and like any story it explains what silent movies were in the text anyway so for those that have never heard of them.
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Post by karloscar on Jun 6, 2023 21:19:43 GMT
It's only a dozen years since a silent movie won just about every award going. The Artist made a lot of people more aware of the silent era, so assuming everyone young is ignorant of film history is pretty misguided.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 7, 2023 3:09:28 GMT
i bet if you were to ask young people if they had heard of The Artist, or what it was about, the overwhelming majority wouldnt have a clue. Just because it won best picture, doesnt mean people know it.
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Post by max on Jun 7, 2023 7:06:24 GMT
I've always thought the libretto is very light on mention of exactly what was wrong with Norma when the talkies arrived. Presumably that's why they rewrote the intro to 'With One Look' as the first is a bit elliptical and relies on knowledge of the phenomenon to get what the lyrics are saying: "There was a time in this business you wouldn't remember, we had the eyes of the whole wide world, but that wasn't good enough for those Einstein's in the front office, they wanted the ears of the world as well" The rewrite is clearer, but it's the show's only clear statement on it: "Once upon a time not long ago the head of any studio new how and when to play his aces, not they put some talentless unknown beneath their sacred microphone, we didn't need words we had faces........they took away the gold of silence, when all they needed was this face of mine".
Later, Max: "Talkies came; I stayed with her, took up this life" doesn't underline it much.
I guess the writing team were skirting mention of Norma having a voice or acting style that didn't work for talkies, as the singing requirements of the role suggest she's just fine - though Glen Close and Betty Buckley's 'old fashioned' style plays into it usefully. You'd think world weary/cynical Joe might go into it more, but it would need to be early rather than when he literally chucks Norma's reality back at her at the end. Perhaps there's a version of 'Sunset Boulevard' in a parallel universe where all Norma's lines are sung on note.
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 7, 2023 7:57:13 GMT
this is true. And the concept of silent films is totally alien to anyone over the age of 40 now. I am 47 and remember little clips of them show on TV as a child, and sometimes referenced in comedic and light entertainment parodies.
But to anyone born in the 80's onwards, I would suggest the concept of "silent movies" is unfathomable.......
Sorry but that's a tad patronising and insulting. Just because you may not have watched a silent movie doesn't mean you don't know what they are. Just the same as people know what black and white movies were. Also, it's a story, and like any story it explains what silent movies were in the text anyway so for those that have never heard of them. If you insist. The crux of my point is that when I was a child, silent movies were still referenced on TV. I have not seen any evidence of their existence on TV in at least 20 years - feel free to correct me though if you know better.
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Post by distantcousin on Jun 7, 2023 7:58:03 GMT
It's only a dozen years since a silent movie won just about every award going. The Artist made a lot of people more aware of the silent era, so assuming everyone young is ignorant of film history is pretty misguided. You really do overestimate the general public...
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Post by ceebee on Jun 7, 2023 9:15:43 GMT
So back to ATG card holders - aside from nick, has anybody else received a specific ATG email targeted exclusively at cardholders? I've received bog all other than the one from Jamie Lloyd.
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Post by evilmat360 on Jun 7, 2023 9:26:51 GMT
So back to ATG card holders - aside from nick, has anybody else received a specific ATG email targeted exclusively at cardholders? I've received bog all other than the one from Jamie Lloyd. Went onto the Sunset Boulevard page while logged in, seems to be counting down to 10am on the 13th for members presale too.
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