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Post by Rory on Mar 13, 2024 10:09:29 GMT
Two quick queries: 1. When did the Bridge become eligible for the Oliviers? 2. Stranger Things is neither a comedy play nor an 'entertainment', is it?! 1. I believe the Bridge became eligible sometime this year or maybe late last year. They probably wised up and paid for the Society of London Theatre membership knowing they'd get a lot of noms for Guys and Dolls. 2. I REALLY have no clue. I thought it would be considered a "play". A friend asked me today why Harry Potter was classed as a play whereas this isn't. I presume because the show is such a spectacle they've reduced it to "entertainment" like Totoro last year. It's interesting. If you look at the Official London Theatre Show Guide, Stranger Things is firmly included in the 'Drama' category, and not the 'Comedy / Entertainment' one.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 13, 2024 10:15:22 GMT
It doesn't make a lot of sense, but admittedly so many paper-thin plays have won the Olivier on the strength of spectacular productions that it's not awful to prioritize playwriting by sending installments of franchises in the entertainment category.
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Post by jaggy on Mar 13, 2024 11:57:09 GMT
Ah! I didn’t know that the producers were behind it. Thank you for that.
I love SJP so I’m a little more okay with her getting a nom. Would I have give her a nom myself? No.
I thought Alison Oliver was more deserving of a nod for Portia Coughlan. Maybe the play was too divisive.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Mar 13, 2024 12:54:17 GMT
Yeah the panel make a long list of suggestions for the wider voting body, however, the voting body don't have to listen to the panel's suggestions and can opt to vote for anyone else who is eligible. It's only for the supporting acting categories that the long list the panel makes is the sole list the wider voting body can vote on.
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on Mar 13, 2024 18:55:09 GMT
Re your point 2, I was on the public panel a few years ago. The way it worked then, and I think still now, is that the producers ask it to be considered as entertainment rather than a play or musical. I guess some calculate that they have a better chance in that category. I must say I find Hadestown nominated as best revival of a musical to be very strange. It's a transfer of the NT production, albeit with a different cast. Similarly Groundhog Day, which was a pared back remount. Can't believe either were nominated over Crazy for You. Or rather I can, as I now take the Oliviers with a pinch of salt anyway. Am I reading too much into your post when it makes me think that perhaps your panel voted for productions/people who were then not recognised by the wider vote? No that's fair - there were some on the nominations long list (which is then voted on by SOLT members) that none of us really rated, and vice versa. Though that really only applies to categories like supporting actor where there are so many choose from, and therefore the panel has some say. There were a couple of big name inclusions which we were politely guided to include, despite none of the panel suggesting them. The nominations long list meeting was really short too, given the task at hand - I remember it being only a couple of hours, including a nice cold buffet dinner! SOLT members, plus the panel, vote on nominations, and similarly they vote on the winners. What's also worth noting is that takeovers can be nominated if, and only if, the producers ask them to be considered. We had that at least once in my year (though they didn't get a nomination). The panel can also be invited to watch a show more than once - I had that a few times, one time going to a big musical and receiving a goody bag of merch including a cast recording!
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Post by lynette on Mar 14, 2024 13:27:26 GMT
Dinner! ?! I didn’t get dinner.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Mar 14, 2024 14:27:47 GMT
Quite nice cold buffet and wine!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 14, 2024 16:01:31 GMT
Dinner! ?! I didn’t get dinner. Quite nice cold buffet and wine! How did you both get selected in the first place? Do you apply or do you have to ”know people”?
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Post by lynette on Mar 14, 2024 16:05:42 GMT
Dinner! ?! I didn’t get dinner. Quite nice cold buffet and wine! How did you both get selected for the panel in the first place? Do you apply or do you have to ”know people”? It was a while ago but I simply answered the ad which was in the theatres on a leaflet. I sent in my application which was a letter and a list of the productions I had seen the previous year. I think they wanted to see how enthusiastic people are. That was my first application which failed then the next year I applied again , same way and was accepted after an interview. Nobody I met on the panel ‘knew anyone’, all of us ordinary punters plus the people chosen by SOLT who were industry people, a journalist, a casting agent if I recall correctly.
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Post by alece10 on Mar 14, 2024 16:27:28 GMT
Apparently ITV have now said they are telling Marisha she has been nominated. Will be shown in tonight's programme.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Mar 14, 2024 16:38:46 GMT
Dinner! ?! I didn’t get dinner. Quite nice cold buffet and wine! How did you both get selected in the first place? Do you apply or do you have to ”know people”? I applied on their website! Had to write a few short reviews on something I'd seen recently and list everything I'd seen that past year. Then had a short video interview where they asked a few more questions about like general interest in theatre and so on. They also asked to make sure that I didn't have any connections to theatre/didn't work in a role that was related to theatre in anyway. There were maybe 10 of us on the panel and we were all a mix of careers from software engineering to publishing, none of us 'knew people'.
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Post by mrnutz on Mar 14, 2024 17:43:22 GMT
How did you both get selected in the first place? Do you apply or do you have to ”know people”? I applied on their website! Had to write a few short reviews on something I'd seen recently and list everything I'd seen that past year. Then had a short video interview where they asked a few more questions about like general interest in theatre and so on. They also asked to make sure that I didn't have any connections to theatre/didn't work in a role that was related to theatre in anyway. There were maybe 10 of us on the panel and we were all a mix of careers from software engineering to publishing, none of us 'knew people'. How many shows did you have to see in the year and did it get stressful? Do they tell you when to go or is it on your schedule?
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Mar 15, 2024 10:14:40 GMT
How many shows did you have to see in the year and did it get stressful? Do they tell you when to go or is it on your schedule? I think I ended up seeing about 100 shows over just under a year. It wasn't stressful because I enjoyed it so much, but I think if you weren't committed to seeing theatre it could definitely get a bit tedious. Since I worked a regular 9-5 I could only see shows in the evenings and and so I did rarely have free evenings. Also since a lot of shows are limited runs and they only want you to go in and see the show post previews, there's a limited window where you can see each show so it was a bit of work making sure I could fit everything I needed to see in before a show closed. There were a few weeks where I think I saw a different show every evening + both shows on Saturday lol. They don't tell you when to go exactly, but like I said they have a set of dates you need to see the show between (post previews, pre closing). Also if there are scheduled alternates/understudies they want to make sure you see the original principals. Other than that though you can then specify which dates work for you and they try to book you in on your top preferred day
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Post by mrmushnik on Mar 16, 2024 11:47:04 GMT
Absolutely nothing for Mrs Doubtfire, despite Gabriel Vick’s star turn. Ditto for The Witches. Very little for Crazy For You, although am puzzled why Stroman received a nod - she won for the same show and choreography 30 years ago. As good as it was, there was nothing new. Only 1 nod for La Cage despite it causing quite a stir. So interesting noticing what gets picked up and what’s overlooked. Admittedly it was a fiercely competitive year.
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Post by aspieandy on Mar 18, 2024 12:04:18 GMT
In the new play category, I would have had David Ireland's Ulster American ahead of Jez/California or Till the Stars Come Down, probably Jez. Prices probably didn't help.
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Post by Dave B on Mar 18, 2024 13:23:41 GMT
Murder in The Dark - Richmond Theatre Harry Clarke - Amabassadors Romeo and Juliet with Randall Goosby - Royal Festival Hall
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 18, 2024 14:41:17 GMT
Wild to me that the play with the most votes for revival is Shirley Valentine....we all saw how cheaply that was put together right?
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Post by Dave B on Mar 28, 2024 9:48:59 GMT
Guest piece in yesterday's Standard from Lynette Linton
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 4, 2024 16:42:28 GMT
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Post by alece10 on Apr 4, 2024 17:25:42 GMT
Do we know if she will be there?
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Post by JustJ on Apr 4, 2024 17:43:47 GMT
It is such a shame Sunset Boulevard won't be performing. Do you think they might leave it as a surprise? Surely Nicole will be there (she was the nominees event) and the fact the show and the team are up for several Oliviers and won't get any sort of 'highlight'.. especially with their pending Broadway run seems crazy to me.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Apr 4, 2024 20:45:09 GMT
There are apparently 'surprises' on the night. i expect something with the video cameras.
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Post by BVM on Apr 4, 2024 21:41:40 GMT
I dunno, I’m kinda glad Sunset not performing. Musicals pulling off TV spots is rarer than them being a slight damp squib I’d say. Crowd pleasing song and dance numbers fare much better.
Sunset was such an intense experience, built up from the moment the overture started at The Savoy. And even though it does have stand alone numbers, I’m just not sure JL’s production would come across out of context.
Add in the dreadful RAH acoustics and there could be a lot of people who’ve not seen it wondering what the fuss is about. Which would be a shame.
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Post by curiouskc on Apr 4, 2024 22:33:00 GMT
I am assuming that the songs featured in that teaser will be the ones performed on the night? If so I am really excited for a UK version of this iconic Tonys performance. Hyped for Hadestown, A Strange Loop and Operation Mincemeat too.
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Post by greeny11 on Apr 5, 2024 15:21:55 GMT
I would be very surprised if Operation Mincemeat performed that song at the Oliviers. I would expect God That’s Brilliant but would rather it was Glitzy Finale or a shorter version of Making A Man.
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Post by asps2017 on Apr 5, 2024 17:35:38 GMT
For anyone going, does anyone know what time to arrive or finishing time? Thanks!
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Post by anywherespace on Apr 9, 2024 18:09:48 GMT
Anyone have any predictions they’d like to share? I think Nicole Scherzinger and Sunset Boulevard are the obvious locks for their respective categories (although I did see The Stage predicting Marisha Wallace which while deserving I think is unlikely.)
Operation Mincemeat and Vanya I think are also pretty safe bets to win.
I don’t think I’m alone in saying that while I’d love Charlie Stemp to win for Best Actor in a Musical I think it’s going to Tom Francis. I’d bet on Amy Trigg for Best Supporting Actress in a Musical but I could see a strong argument for Grace Hodgett Young and wouldn’t be surprised if it was her.
Funnily enough it’s been Best Supporting Actor in a Musical that’s had me and my friend debating all day. We both think is going to be one of the Ja(c)ks with my money on Wolfe and her’s on Malone. Both would be deserving imo.
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Post by archibaldi on Apr 9, 2024 22:04:45 GMT
will we be able to watch the live awards on any platform or will we have to wait until the condensed broadcast on itv, is it going to be livestreamed on youtube?
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Post by darvsplanet on Apr 10, 2024 1:00:52 GMT
will we be able to watch the live awards on any platform or will we have to wait until the condensed broadcast on itv, is it going to be livestreamed on youtube? It’ll be live-streamed on YouTube but geo blocked so it can only be watched from outside the UK. You’ll need to use a VPN to spoof your location if you want to watch it live from the UK.
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Post by archibaldi on Apr 10, 2024 8:09:24 GMT
Why is it so locked up
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