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Post by Rory on Apr 14, 2024 22:40:04 GMT
You're probably right but I wish they would show Best Supporting Actor and Actress. I really wanted to see Haydn Gwynne's son collecting her award.
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Post by ceebee on Apr 14, 2024 22:46:15 GMT
People moan about the ceremony not being broadcast live in the UK but I suspect if ITV1 did show it live, it would do badly ratings wise. There are work arounds as plenty found on here for those who wanted to watch it live on YouTube.
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Post by coleyj on Apr 14, 2024 22:46:28 GMT
Sad to see you all disliking Hannah so much, I thought she was a lot of fun. She always seems to just be her quirky self no matter what she's doing.
I guess to each their own but I thought she was wonderful.
Also loved the Sunset Blvd performance...really looking forward to it being on Broadway. Overall I thought it was a good Oliviers...hoping next year it will be more accessible to watch than trying to find a VPN that works.
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Post by ceebee on Apr 14, 2024 22:46:56 GMT
You're probably right but I wish they would show Best Supporting Actor and Actress. I really wanted to see Haydn Gwynne's son collecting her award. It was moving - a quite rightly very proud son.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 14, 2024 22:50:53 GMT
Hadyn Gwynne had never won an Olivier before ? I can’t believe that!
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Post by ceebee on Apr 14, 2024 22:51:11 GMT
Sad to see you all disliking Hannah so much, I thought she was a lot of fun. She always seems to just be her quirky self no matter what she's doing. I guess to each their own but I thought she was wonderful. Also loved the Sunset Blvd performance...really looking forward to it being on Broadway. Overall I thought it was a good Oliviers...hoping next year it will be more accessible to watch than trying to find a VPN that works. Surfshark did the job for me. Just access via a country that isn't restricted - in my case, I chose Ireland with France as a back up. Anywhere in Europe would work just fine. Just not the UK... USA members also had to navigate restrictions but managed to watch.
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Post by BVM on Apr 14, 2024 22:53:38 GMT
I do find the world confusing.
Most people on Twitter saying Waddingham best thing since sliced bread. Loads of people on here dragging her.
Anyway. She’s clearly popular with TV producers!
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Post by Rory on Apr 14, 2024 22:56:24 GMT
I do find the world confusing. Most people on Twitter saying Waddingham best thing since sliced bread. Loads of people on here dragging her. Anyway. She’s clearly popular with TV producers! Well I like her a lot!
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Post by theatregoer22 on Apr 14, 2024 23:01:50 GMT
Pleased to see Jak Malone win Best Supporting Actor in a Musical. His rendition of Dear Bill was the standout part of Operation Mincemeat for me.
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Post by andrew on Apr 14, 2024 23:04:19 GMT
Why was stranger things not in best play? Because it wouldn't have won.
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Post by bigredapple on Apr 14, 2024 23:38:04 GMT
I do find the world confusing. Most people on Twitter saying Waddingham best thing since sliced bread. Loads of people on here dragging her. Anyway. She’s clearly popular with TV producers! People here are miserable and hate everything tbh
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Post by aspieandy on Apr 15, 2024 0:07:41 GMT
Don't know much about her. Not been in any plays I've seen.
I just find it a little disconcerting her hair is fixed, her forehead doesn't move and her breasts don't wobble. A bit AI generated.
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Post by nash16 on Apr 15, 2024 0:40:46 GMT
Why was stranger things not in best play? The question everyone is asking! People forget Oliviers are given mainly to shows heading to Broadway. Hello, Sunset Boulevard. SOLT wanted both Dear England and Stranger Things to head over with Oliviers, thus them putting ST in that category. Likewise why Operation Mincemeat won over TBLT. The former is going to New York, the latter is not. Olivier Award wins are mainly help for marketing/making money when they cross the pond.
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Post by Dave B on Apr 15, 2024 0:41:08 GMT
Just home, our seats were amazing. Right with the entire Dear England crowd, got to congratulate Will Close sat just a few seats down from me. Beverly Knight, Michael Sheen and Ruth Jones all sat behind us(!) we had GOOD seats.
Tom Francis brought the place down, he arrived in just near us and yeah an immediate standing ovation.
Afterparty was fab, brief Nicole and Hannah W appearances, an over the moon Amy Trigg and Tom Francis enjoying themselves. Andrew Scott and James Norton burning up the dancefloor. Mincemeat wandering around in a state of dazed shock in particular Jak Malone. Charlie Stemp, Jack Wolfe and Eleanor Worthington-Cox and friends/partners chatting away all night.
Lots of winners clutching their awards. Lots and lots of champagne, lots of wine by Kylie Minogue (?!?). It was in the Natural History Museum underneath the blue whale so a fab venue.
Sarah Snook had mislaid her sticker to access the party - they accepted the Olivier she was carrying instead
Hannah W certainly went down well where we were sitting and interestingly, could see the entire auto-cue and the only less great jokes or lines were on there, the really good stuff in particular the Tom Francis line was all her.
Oh yeah, David Tennent and Michael Sheen chatting up a storm at the interval. Heh.
The heavy use of War Horse during the NT section seems to strongly back up the suggestion in the other thread of it returning to the NT this year!
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Post by Dave B on Apr 15, 2024 0:42:49 GMT
SOLT wanted both Dear England and Stranger Things to head over with Olivers, thus them putting ST in that category. SOLT don't pick the categories - the show producers do as long as it fits within the eligibility which goes to an SOLT committee as necessary.
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Post by nash16 on Apr 15, 2024 0:46:39 GMT
SOLT wanted both Dear England and Stranger Things to head over with Olivers, thus them putting ST in that category. SOLT don't pick the categories - the show producers do as long as it fits within the eligibility which goes to an SOLT committee as necessary. SOLT definitely choose which shows go where and advise the producers as such. Both of those shows had to win, so they had to split them.
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Post by Dave B on Apr 15, 2024 0:50:00 GMT
SOLT don't pick the categories - the show producers do as long as it fits within the eligibility which goes to an SOLT committee as necessary. SOLT definitely choose which shows go where and advise the producers as such. Both of those shows had to win, so they had to split them.
I've been explicitly told otherwise and had the system explained to me by SOLT as an aside to the panel meeting this year so I'm going to respectfully disagree!
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Post by nash16 on Apr 15, 2024 0:53:48 GMT
SOLT definitely choose which shows go where and advise the producers as such. Both of those shows had to win, so they had to split them.
I've been explicitly told otherwise and had the system explained to me by SOLT as an aside to the panel meeting this year so I'm going to respectfully disagree!
We shall, of course, agree to disagree.
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Post by Fleance on Apr 15, 2024 1:39:06 GMT
The question everyone is asking! People forget Oliviers are given mainly to shows heading to Broadway. Hello, Sunset Boulevard. SOLT wanted both Dear England and Stranger Things to head over with Oliviers, thus them putting ST in that category. Likewise why Operation Mincemeat won over TBLT. The former is going to New York, the latter is not. Olivier Award wins are mainly help for marketing/making money when they cross the pond. In that case, they should have awarded Old Friends, which is definitely heading to both LA and Broadway. (Not sure Dear England is going to make it, I'm afraid, much as I loved it.)
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Post by nash16 on Apr 15, 2024 2:33:41 GMT
People forget Oliviers are given mainly to shows heading to Broadway. Hello, Sunset Boulevard. SOLT wanted both Dear England and Stranger Things to head over with Oliviers, thus them putting ST in that category. Likewise why Operation Mincemeat won over TBLT. The former is going to New York, the latter is not. Olivier Award wins are mainly help for marketing/making money when they cross the pond. In that case, they should have awarded Old Friends, which is definitely heading to both LA and Broadway. (Not sure Dear England is going to make it, I'm afraid, much as I loved it.) They really should have. It deserved it, and more nominations IMO. But SOLT also daren’t let Sonia Friedman leave empty handed after they gave nothing to THOC. Else there’d be trouble.
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Post by shownut on Apr 15, 2024 6:10:46 GMT
People forget Oliviers are given mainly to shows heading to Broadway. Hello, Sunset Boulevard. SOLT wanted both Dear England and Stranger Things to head over with Oliviers, thus them putting ST in that category. Likewise why Operation Mincemeat won over TBLT. The former is going to New York, the latter is not. Olivier Award wins are mainly help for marketing/making money when they cross the pond. In that case, they should have awarded Old Friends, which is definitely heading to both LA and Broadway. (Not sure Dear England is going to make it, I'm afraid, much as I loved it.) Not sure where anyone is getting the idea that OPERATION MINCEMEAT is Broadway bound (where it would die a very quick and sudden death). Wishful thinking perhaps? The show does have a recent licencing agreement with Avalon for productions in other countries, but that doesn't necessarily mean a prelude to Broadway. Toronto then maybe Off-Broadway but even then, it would be a challenge to sell.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 15, 2024 6:24:00 GMT
I don’t know what Tracie Bennett thought she was doing with her single line in the finale but it was absolutely awful.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Apr 15, 2024 7:25:49 GMT
I have it on VERY good authority that both Dear England and Mincemeat are going to Broadway in 2025. Madness, but true. Also The Motive and the Cue with both leads.
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Post by solotheatregoer on Apr 15, 2024 7:47:48 GMT
I have it on VERY good authority that both Dear England and Mincemeat are going to Broadway in 2025. Madness, but true. Also The Motive and the Cue with both leads. I would love if Motive transferred and would be booking tickets ASAP!
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Post by bimse on Apr 15, 2024 7:58:52 GMT
I do find the world confusing. Most people on Twitter saying Waddingham best thing since sliced bread. Loads of people on here dragging her. Anyway. She’s clearly popular with TV producers! People here are miserable and hate everything tbh Immature comment. No one is ever going to like “everything” , yourself included .
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Post by americanresident3333 on Apr 15, 2024 8:02:52 GMT
Clive Davis in The Sunday Times has quite the takes. He seems to take issue with the winners despite them being widely-acclaimed performances and shows. When in fact two of last year’s winners Paul Mescal and Jodie Comer were and are way more famous than the winners in their respective categories this year (Mescal had already been nominated for an Oscar); I wonder if he said in an article about them that they only won because they’re famous like he’s done this regarding the winners year. Disgustingly rude. Heck David Tennant and Sarah Jessica Parker are more famous than all of the winners this year.
From the way these pundits throw around the words “celebrity” and “famous,” you’d think Kim Kardashian was being nominated for & winning Olivier’s.
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Post by Dave B on Apr 15, 2024 8:13:09 GMT
I am glad I booked today off work!
As promised, here is how I voted in the final round.
Best Actor - Mark Gatiss, Motive & The Cue - National Theatre – Lyttelton & Noël Coward Theatre Best Actress - Sarah Snook - The Picture of Dorian Grey - Theatre Royal Haymarket Best Actor in a Musical - Charlie Stemp - Gillian Lynne Theatre Best Actress in a Musical - Cassie Levy - Next To Normal - Donmar Warehouse Best New Play Till The Stars Come Down - National Theatre - Dorfman Best New Entertainment or Comedy Play Accidental Death Of An Anarchist - Lyric Hammersmith Best Revival The Effect - National Theatre - Lyttelton Best Musical Revival - Groundhog Day - The Old Vic Best New Musical - Next To Normal - Donmar Warehouse Best Set Design - Guys & Dolls - Bridge Theatre, Bunny Christie for Set Design Best Costume Design - La Cage Aux Folles - Regent's Park Open Air Theatre, Ryan Dawson Laight Best Lighting Design - Sunset Boulevard - Savoy Theatre, Jack Knowles Best Sound Design - Macbeth - Donmar Warehouse, Gareth Fry Best Director - Sunset Boulevard - Savoy Theatre, Jamie Lloyd Best Theatre Choreographer - Guys & Dolls - Bridge Theatre, Arlene Phillips with James Cousins Outstanding Musical Contribution - Sunset Boulevard - Savoy Theatre, Alan Williams for Musical Supervision & Musical Direction Best Actor In A Supporting Role - Zubin Varla - A Little Life, Harold Pinter Theatre & Savoy Theatre Best Actress In A Supporting Role - Tanya Reynolds - A Mirror, Almeida Theatre & Trafalgar Theatre Best Actor In A Supporting Role in a musical - Jack Wolfe - Next To Normal, Donmar Warehouse Best Actress In A Supporting Role in a musical - Amy Trigg - The Little Big Things, @sohoplace
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Post by alece10 on Apr 15, 2024 8:20:06 GMT
Well it was Sunset's night which I am pleased about, one downside is that Tom Francis beat Charlie Stemp but I think if Sunset wasn't there then Charlie would have won. Really pleased for Operation Mincemeat and a very well deserved win. Also a novelty to have a winning show that's still on in the west end as usually the winning musical has been and gone. The win should secure their continuing run in London.
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Post by mrnutz on Apr 15, 2024 8:23:05 GMT
That NT "celebration" was a pure circle jerk of cringe.
One AD handing over to another - bleurgh. To be fair to them they didn't look like they wanted to do it either.
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Post by normasturban on Apr 15, 2024 8:28:09 GMT
Mincemeat should be aiming off Broadway at a push.
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