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Post by zahidf on Nov 23, 2022 8:35:34 GMT
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Post by nicolaa on Nov 23, 2022 9:15:16 GMT
Had a big crush on Ant Jones back in the day but could never warm to Freddie.
Bunga bunga all round.
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Post by capybara on Mar 26, 2023 0:45:09 GMT
Did anyone on here go to the first preview on Saturday?
Interested to get an idea of what it’s like, if it’s worth seeing, etc.
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Post by Steve on Mar 28, 2023 18:08:24 GMT
This is great fun. It's very funny, the music is terrific and so are the performers. It's like the perfect concept album because every song is so much fun to listen to, even on the very first listen, which is a rare triumph. The only drawback is that the accelerator and brakes of the plot are constantly alternating, so it fails to properly build to a dramatic climax. Very much recommended, regardless. Some spoilers follow. . . There's a lot of peak Lloyd Webber in this: from the playful eclecticism of styles that you see in Joseph; to the blend of sentimentality and sardonic critique you see in Evita; to the rocking duality of Judas (the women) vs Jesus (Berlusconi opens by saying he's the "Jesus Christ of Politics" lol). This show wants to entertain you the way Berlusconi, a one-time lounge singer (I learned this from the show), wants to entertain everyone. I even heard the opening strains of Robbie Williams's "Let Me Entertain You" underscoring one moment before it morphed into its own unique and uniquely entertaining song. The structure is that Berlusconi is on trial, and we await the verdict. Meanwhile, we get a guided tour of Berlusconi's life, which Berlusconi insists is worthy of a Grand Opera, rather than a trial. However, the show suggests that rather than "the Jesus Christ of Politics" he thinks he is, he may in fact be the new Emperor Tiberius, each as autocratic and sexually debauched as the other. But that's the boring bit of the setup, cos the good bits feature all the women in his life, going at him hammer and tongs, each conjuring different emotional reactions for the audience: (1) Sally Ann Triplet's sneaky Prosecutor conjures up excitement and sheer drama: she's the primary antagonist/protagonist, and like Al Capone before him, she sees tax evasion as the best way to bring the big beast down, even if it's the least of his sins. In one song, he is like a bull and she is like a matador, her shiny red heels the red rag; (2) Emma Hatton's ex-wife, Veronica, conjures all the deep emotions: her love betrayed make for the songs that brought tears to my eyes, a desperate sense of what might have been; (3) Jenny Fitzpatrick's ex-mistress turned reporter is bitter reproachfulness. Her bruised fired-up soulfulness scorch the audience with the damage Berlusconi has done; (4) His dear old mama, Susan Fay, mourns her son's moral fall, repeatedly singing "I taught him to be good;" And (5) Natalie Kassanga's Bella may just be the "Smoking Gun" that finally finally topples the Emperor. Meanwhile, like a snake, together with his powerful bass consiliere, Matthew Woodyatt's Antonio, Berlusconi slithers smoothly around the giant steps of a stage, eluding all of them, his beaming smile and knowing shrugs charming us (or attempting to). I loved Sebastien Torkia as Berlusconi: he's the ultimate comedian and showman, while somehow simultaneously taking himself so seriously that he believes he deserves an opera about him. The songs and performances are a smash. However, they don't build dramatically, so the audience's tension is constantly relieved before being built up again. What is needed, I think, is to build Triplett's Prosecutor role up even further, like Che in Evita, so that Berlusconi is constantly chased by her devilishly oppositional and frighteningly clever voice, maintaining and ramping up the tension from her viewpoint from first to last. As it is, I was dazzled and entertained by every performance and song, but dramatically, I was coasting. All in all, a terrific, and politically prescient new musical. A 4 star show that could easily be better with tweaking. Recommended.
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Post by n1david on Mar 30, 2023 14:23:14 GMT
Sounds like a minority view Steve - ** from Time Out, i, the Guardian, Standard and the Reviews Hub and * from The Stage.
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Post by showgirl on Mar 30, 2023 14:54:53 GMT
Well I'm enjoying it- booked solely on the strength of Steve's review, in lieu of Black Superhero.
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Post by showgirl on Mar 30, 2023 18:05:50 GMT
Having now seen the whole show, I'm really glad I booked on the basis of Steve's post and didn't wait for the reviews, as they would have deterred me had I only read those listed above. However Whatsonstage and London Theatre Reviews have both given this 3 stars, which I think is far fairer, and the assessment in the WOS version seems bang-on to me. I had a great time and think the show succeeded in so many ways: cast, orchestra, music, lyrics, staging, choreography, costumes, visual appeal - you name it, really. The set is quite simple but flexible and the eye is constantly engaged by the changing scene, which includes several screens and some back-projection too. It doesn't pretend to be deep or incisive but it's funny, very entertaining and I can't ever remember seeing a new musical and liking all the songs with no exception, as in this case.
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Post by originalconceptlive on Mar 30, 2023 20:32:39 GMT
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Post by Steve on Mar 30, 2023 22:24:59 GMT
Yes, the consensus of the reviews would seem to be 2 and a half stars: 4 stars The Reviews Hub 3 and a half stars Lou Reviews 3 stars The Telegraph The Times WhatsOnStage The Upcoming London Theatre 2 Stars The Guardian Time Out Evening Standard Broadway World All That Dazzles Theatre Weekly 1 Star The Stage Culture Whisper I was entertained by the performances and music, despite the plot not moving. But for some, the "turgid plot" (The Stage) was a total dealbreaker. For others, there was a lack of moral judgement. The Telegraph review points out that while the women get their say, Sebastien Torkia's "magnetic charisma" results in an "extremely flattering portrayal which omits some of his worst excesses." So there is something of the James Graham type nonjudgementalism (see his Rupert Murdoch lol) riling up some reviewers. I do appreciate the critique, though it doesn't bother me, even though I admit there's something very likeable about Torkia's irrepressible scoundrel getting away with everything. The Guardian's influential review follows this pattern, suggesting that "although these women are given a voice, they sound generic," and concluding that "We never feel the sting of the satire, or come to know these characters. At over two hours long, it’s a shame such an inspired idea ends up feeling so banal and interminable." Well, I learned reams and reams and reams about these characters, that I had no idea about before, so I imagine it's the lack of a "sting" (ie a didactic built-in educational lesson about how bad wannabe dictators are) that really reduces this to a two star review. For me, the postmodern world of political scallywags getting away with everything felt familiar, and playing it up for laughs felt more appealing to me than trying to "sting" me into realising what I already know. I felt, and still feel, that the songs and singers are very entertaining, even if the plot goes nowhere. Given the bad reviews, this may be your only chance to catch this.
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Post by showgirl on Mar 31, 2023 4:08:04 GMT
Hope your suspicion about this show possibly not having a longer life/future are unfounded, Steve, though I understand it. I wonder if it will be one of those word-of-mouth hits which does well despite the professional critics' reservations - after all, there are plenty of examples of this and the audience reaction yesterday was very positive and enthusiastic. I would also not discount the UK-based Italian audience as there were certainly a lot of people speaking in Italian at the performanceI attended yesterday, ie before/after and during the interval. I'd certainly urge people to see it for themselves, though I'd point out that the running time is longer than advertised (2 h 30 rather than 2 hours) and the matinee didn't finish until 5.05 pm as it started a little late, too. It's 65 mins each half plus a 20-minute interval. Other info which may help those making their first visit to this SP venue: it's a little further than the existing site from the nearest tube entrance/exit (shopping centre rather than university, which involves using a lift) and quite a long wait to cross the major road alongside, though easy to find once you're walking down Newington Butts and is signposted from the main road, albeit only slightly set back from it so you can see it as you approach anyway. Plenty of seating in the foyer at ground level but also around the corner in the direction of the auditorium (downstairs) and again in the downstairs foyer - bars on both levels. Only tea/coffee at present as far as hot drinks are concerned but a very affordable £1.60. The only downside for me was the ghastly unisex loos but there are plenty of them.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Apr 1, 2023 6:51:32 GMT
We walked out at the interval "We never feel the sting of the satire, or come to know these characters. At over two hours long, it’s a shame such an inspired idea ends up feeling so banal and interminable" The Guardian sums it up well
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Post by capybara on Apr 3, 2023 21:58:25 GMT
Took a chance on this tonight. Big mistake. I thought it was probably the worst musical I’ve ever seen and certainly the first I’ve walked out of during the interval.
The score was, indeed, banal and basic. It was mere hours ago but I can’t remember the names of any songs. They did absolutely nothing to move the story on - a bit of a problem for a sung-through musical.
Usually when I dislike a show, I’ll be polite about the cast and acknowledge their vocal abilities. However, the score did nothing to showcase any of their talents. The lyrics were unimaginative and boring.
I found Sebastien Torkia irritating and jarring as the title role. Talk about one dimensional! Arguably it wasn’t his fault but this muddled and confused musical gave its audience zero insight into the personality and defining moments of Silvio Berlusconi’s life.
It simply isn’t enough to have a populist politician repeat “I’m the Jesus Christ of politics” for us to believe it. The real Berlusconi is one of the most divisive, charismatic and vile politicians in recent years, how could he be so boring and uninteresting in this show?!
When I walked in, I really like the set and the use of the space. My first visit to Southwark Playhouse Elephant and I’ll certainly be back, it’s a unique space. But when it got going, I hated the staging. I didn’t like the constant hands appearing from the stage.
I also didn’t see the need for the TV presenter character (Fama?) to be filmed live and projected in such an intimate space.
To top it off, the two women sat in front of me spent the whole first act either texting or chatting to each other. They also took lots of pictures of the show but there didn’t seem to be an usher in the entire auditorium? If I’d stayed, I would have had to move.
Very disappointing. One star and that’s pretty generous.
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Post by darreno on Apr 6, 2023 13:27:14 GMT
Saw this last night - Fantastic fun.
Interestingly, Mama had lost her voice so she lip synched while someone sang her part backstage. Never seen that before! We also had two monitors down so unfortunate for those sat stage right.
I stay away from reviews once I decide to see a show as I want to experience it without prejudice where possible. Once I saw the words Berlusconi and musical, I was in.
I can totally see why it's marmite and some would hate it. To me it was brilliant fun, outstanding voices, cool use of staging and space. Worth the price for Sally Ann Triplett. She is ridiculously good.
There is a lot of audience interactions, not participation as such, but knowing looks, winks etc. For me this is a really good way to get us on board knowing it's not to be taken too seriously.
First time at the new Southwark space for me, really, really nice. We had a delayed start and the staff were excellent, especially under pressure.
I'd recommend this all day long.
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Post by G on Apr 15, 2023 9:42:00 GMT
Matinee and evening performances today cancelled due to cast illness unfortunately.
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Post by tmesis on Apr 23, 2023 19:41:20 GMT
In the end I enjoyed this but I was really unsure by the interval. The story didn’t really engage me and the music was pretty relentless up to that point. After the interval the music was much more varied and the story considerably more interesting. I’m not a fan in the main of through composed musicals and I think this would have benefited from some spoken dialogue, but at least the composer didn’t pad it out with tedious pseudo recitative/arioso something of which ALW is guilty.
Great cast and good production values. Also really excellent sound which is often a problem at their other venue up the road.
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Post by singingbird on Apr 28, 2023 7:48:50 GMT
Was in two minds about seeing this but I found it hugely enjoyable, whilst also seeing that it wasn't actually that good. I thought the score was powerful and easily the best thing about it (along with many of the performances), and it did a lot of the heavy lifting. The lyrics leaned very heavily on impure rhymes, which I always hate, but I just had to switch my inner rhyme-meter off somehow. I kept mentally rewriting the lyrics with proper rhymes! It also just stated the obvious too many times - especially the opening and closing numbers. All text and no subtext.
Biggest issue is - is this the trial or is it his autobiographical self-mythologising opera? Two framing devices, neither used consistently. I'd have plumped for the latter - opened with him saying that's what he's doing, casting it, directing it, but having it go off the rails as the characters refuse to play ball and insist on speaking their truths. Focus it like that, and tighten the lyrics, and I think you could have a great show. A noble failure, but a very enjoyable one.
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