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Post by anthony on Sept 9, 2023 15:18:52 GMT
We are here now (interval) and Holly is on as Ewan.
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Post by anthony on Sept 7, 2023 21:51:06 GMT
The white curtain is literally what the songs are performed in front of.
When the bows start is the Manderlay set. The Manderlay set is a masterpiece in comparison to the set for the hotel in Monte.
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Post by anthony on Sept 7, 2023 18:37:47 GMT
I have a bit of a love for underdog “famously bad” musical productions. How does this rank alongside “Too Close to the Sun”, “Behind the Iron Mask”, “Gone With the Wind”, “Imagine This” and the like - all of which I saw?(!!!) Tempted to see this for the collection, but is it so bad it’s good or just plain bad? Those four musicals you listed were before my theatergoing days, so I can't really compare. But I would guess the difference with this show is that the book, music, and performances are legitimately pretty good. That's the fascinating thing about this production: it serves as an example of just how low "pretty good" material can be dragged by poor staging, direction, and lyrics. It's bad in a very novel way. If that sounds intriguing to you, I'd recommend seeing it. I imagine it will be funnier if you see it sooner. Multiple audience members giggled at the "pretending to be seagulls" moment, so that's one beat that'll probably be cut in the coming days. No way will the seagulls be cut - Kunze laughed at that moment, meaning it was 100% the intended effect.
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Post by anthony on Sept 6, 2023 19:52:22 GMT
Thanks to all who have offered their thoughts about this production. I'm planning a trip to the West End to see a bunch of shows and have only one or two time slots left. I'm considering either "Rebecca" or "Guys and Dolls." I know that everyone seems to be saying that "Guys and Dolls" is a "must see." I've hesitated because, with a few exceptions, '50s era musicals are not my favorite. I also have no interest in standing up for two hours and in general don't like immersives. I love the novel "Rebecca," so I'm curious about this show. However, I also tend to be critical of adaptations of my favorite novels, so I'm not sure that this show would be a good gamble. If anyone has an opinion about "Rebecca" vs "Guys and Dolls," I'd love to hear it! Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask! Although I've been critical of this production, the music is wonderful and the performances are good. It's been a hit around the world and I imagine this is likely the only chance we'll ever get to see an English language production. I'd go with Rebecca.
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Post by anthony on Sept 5, 2023 5:33:07 GMT
I’ll post some full thoughts when I’m home but the fire was just a smoke machine and red lights - no fire, or any other special effect. Were you expecting an actual staircase on fire? I thought this production to see how the English translations worked in performance, with a view to taking it forwartd into a full scale production in the future. No, I was just responding to the poster who asked me about it. I actually think it was OKish. I do think it needed something more. It's funny, actually, because during Janseits der Nacht (which again, starts in the middle of the stalls!), you notice that there is a smoke machine pumping out smoke from the right balcony. Then after Maxim cries "It's Manderlay!", the machine goes full on and the entire theatre is filled with smoke and you momentarily can't see the stage. It got its point across. I was expecting more from the set, though - I think it's one of the things that pulls people to Rebecca. The grandeur of it. I'm just not sure who this production appeals to, other than existing fans of the show, which won't be enough to sustain it - I'd say a big chunk of the audience last night were German-speaking, wearing shirts and hoodies from various German language productions. It sorta does everything half-arsed and doesn't really do anything particularly well. Yes, it is to see if a transfer could work (although it would need to be an entirely new production, not just scaled up if it ever were to transfer!). But obviously it needs to be successful if that is going to happen. I mean look, when the ensemble are on stage pretending to be seagulls, flapping their arms like wings, I thought they were going down the Dance of the Vampires route and I'm glad it was a one off... but I do worry this could have a Dance of the Vampires type impact if it is a big flop, in that less non-English productions will take risks in bringing stuff to English-speaking countries.
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Post by anthony on Sept 5, 2023 0:12:34 GMT
Won the lottery for the 2nd time! Booked for Sat matinee in the hope for some alternates!
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Post by anthony on Sept 4, 2023 23:41:42 GMT
The characterisation of Mrs Danvers is different from previous versions... How so? Could you elaborate, please? Thank you for the review! I think that she just lacks of the coldness of say Susan Rigvava-Dumas or Kata Janza. I can't really explain - I guess I would say that I'm not sure why Ich would feel intimidated by Danvers in the London production. It's not that it's performed badly, it's just different. It's the same throughout, which makes me think it was a conscious directing choice. She seems more fragile, perhaps.
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Post by anthony on Sept 4, 2023 23:26:31 GMT
So an odd night at the theatre! I've been waiting for this since 2006. I've never been more hyped for anything before. The evening started oddly. We are in our seats - the only people in the row. About 2 minutes before start time, we are joined by people with laptops, notepads and some were setting up phone tripods to record the show. Michael Kunze comes along and says we are in his seats - we were in our correct seats. Seems that after we booked our tickets, this row was taken off sale for the production staff and they hadn't realised someone had actually bought tickets there. So we had to move down 2 seats and I ended up literally sitting next to Kunze, which was great - he said he'd get us some drinks at the interval to apologise for the problems, but he forgot! But he was genuinely so lovely.
So in terms of axed songs, the only two songs I noticed that were gone were Die Neue Mrs de Winter and I'm An American Woman (the costume problem at the end of act 1 now happens BEFORE the party and only Maxim, Frank and Beatrice are there. We never see Mrs van Hopper again after Monte). Zeit in Einer Flasche has been halved and is now a duet with Maxim and Zauberhaft Naturlich is now a duet with I. I have to say, I don't understand some of these changes. The show is such a huge success world wide... why did they feel the need to change things? Zeit in Einer Flasche is one of the best melodies in the show and it is now completely wasted. Just makes no sense. I'm not entirely convinced that Christopher Hampton understood a lot of the nuances in the lyrics, either. For example, the orchids are essentially a metaphor for Rebecca - this has been completely lost in the English translation and now the characters spend a silly amount of time just singing about plants. In terms of translations, they are completely different to the 2004 English demo and not always for the better - Kein Lachen is one in particular where I think the demo translation was better. For 'Rebecca', they have used the translation from Pia Douwes' 2018 album.
In terms of Die Neue Mrs de Winter, yes, Danvers' entrance is gone. After Zauberhaft Naturlich, there is a thunderstorm and they are transported to Manderlay where they meet the servants. Mrs Danvers then enters through a door on stage. We then get the reprise of Neue Mrs de Winter, but nothing before.
The cast were all actually wonderful. I was worried about Kara Lane after act 1 but she was wonderful in act 2. Richard Carson was just delightful and Alex James-Ward as Favell was thoroughly awful - perfect casting, actually. The characterisation of Mrs Danvers is different from previous versions, but I feel this was intentional.
It feels like they've slowed a lot of the songs down, and as a result act 1 feels like it drags. The staging is shocking. Genuinely. Monte is like a school production set. At one point, the ensemble come on moving their hands like birds pretending to be seagulls. It is odd. The Manderlay set is slightly better, but still underwhelming. Genuinely amateurish - and I have to say, I feel at times, that is a compliment. A lot of scenes take place when the curtain is down - again, it's just weird direction. The curtain comes down and then entire songs and scenes are played out with no set in front of the curtain - and we can HEAR the sets being moved around whilst this is happening. They also use the aisles a lot - a lot of scenes take place literally in the middle of the stalls. Like literally in the middle (the walkway between the 2 stalls sections). Again, it's just odd and I think something that is going to be criticised heavily in reviews. Certain scenes rely heavily on projections... which is a brave choice considering how much Aspects was ripped apart for this.
I don't think the orchestra paid off - for its size, it doesn't sound it. It sounds thin - the money should have been invested in the set.
Act 2 was actually great. So much better than act 1. The crew next to me were making notes throughout, so hopefully it'll change a lot over the next 2 weeks before press night.
Part of me thinks they should have just booked a small west end theatre (the lyric or something) and done a big grand production with epic staging - even ship it over from Vienna when it closes in a few months. At least then you'd get some decent reviews... I just can't see this doing well and I think the reviews will be brutal, sadly.
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Post by anthony on Sept 4, 2023 21:44:26 GMT
I am gutted. It is a complete car crash. The sets are shocking. Can you elaborate? Would love to hear what I'm in for on Wednesday. How did they attempt the fire at the end? Oof, really? What a bizarre change. That scene must feel pretty flat with only dialogue. Did they skip Mrs. Danvers' dramatic entrance?Okay, I will admit I kinda like this idea. That song is reprised to hell and back, and it never made sense to me that the version sung in the bedroom in act 1 gets so belt-y. It dilutes the impact of the "full version" we hear in act 2. I’ll post some full thoughts when I’m home but the fire was just a smoke machine and red lights - no fire, or any other special effect. Funnily I actually sat next to Michael Kunze this evening and After the fire, he turned to the man next to him and put his thumbs up, so he clearly liked it. Act 2 was significantly better.
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Post by anthony on Sept 4, 2023 19:48:13 GMT
Interval. Read back at my posts to see how excited I was for this.
I am gutted. It is a complete car crash. The sets are shocking. They clearly spent all of the money on the orchestra, which still somehow manages to sound paper thin.
They cut Die Neue Mrs de Winter (which is my favourite song!) - although they still sing the reprise. ‘Rebecca’ has also been halved.
I don’t understand the direction. I am so sad.
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Post by anthony on Sept 1, 2023 10:54:06 GMT
Rehearsal photos live. Looking very video heavy and big LED screens. the full Ivo! Maybe I'm blind, or maybe WoS haven't posted all of the videos, but I'm not sure what you're referring to? The cast are in a rehearsal studio using chairs as props. Can't see any LED screens? The majority of photos are just close ups of the leads? Nothing to indicate the above.
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Post by anthony on Aug 30, 2023 9:50:13 GMT
I will never understand the hate for Diana. Whilst yes, some of the lyrics are cringy as hell "Harry my ginger haired son". Sure. But as a whole, most of the songs themselves are pretty brilliant!
Genuinely think that if the subject matter was different, people would really like the songs, at least.
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Post by anthony on Aug 28, 2023 1:08:28 GMT
Monday - Rebecca!
Can't express how excited I am!!
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Post by anthony on Aug 27, 2023 10:47:47 GMT
At the final performance of Aspects of Love.
There was an older gentleman there, sitting on the left side of the back row of the grand circle. I had heard him shouting a few times prior to the start of the show, but as a whole, people seemed to just be ignoring him, although the poor couple next to him clearly felt very uncomfortable. At the interval, I heard an usher go to the couple and ask if they would like to move - turned out that the man was shouting at people who were using their phones prior to the start of the performance.
Anyway, at the interval I ran out to make a call and when I came back, the man had moved to the row behind me (yay), where he proceeded to literally scream at a young girl (literally teenager! - Who was also at the other end of the circle) for using her phone... during the interval. She still had her phone out when the entra'acte began, and she promptly put it away. However, he proceeded to shout "hey" at her, and waving at her to try and get her attention (thankfully I don't think she realised) and he literally glared at the girl for the first 5 minutes of act 2.
Just odd. He wasn't disruptive at all during the performance, but I just find it so peculiar that he thought that using your phone either before the show started or at the interval is bad behaviour, yet literally screaming at teenagers isn't?
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Post by anthony on Aug 26, 2023 11:46:42 GMT
sorry if it's been discussed or I should know but what is the cast situation for this show? Should we make an effort to see it soon/are originals leaving/have they already left? They haven't left yet and there has been no announcement. All of the cast has equal billing - even the understudies (in the programme at least!). I saw Christian Andrews as Leggett and Sean Carey as Cholmondeley when I saw it and both were brilliant - I really wouldn't worry about seeing an alternate (or understudy? I'm not even sure what they are, to be honest!). I have to admit, though, I think I would have been gutted to have missed Natasha Hodgson - she is just wonderful.
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Post by anthony on Aug 25, 2023 21:53:03 GMT
Don't know about the Tuesday shows but on Monday during the final reprise as Norm held the dying Celinde he literally skipped half his lines masking it with crying, the lines he did sing he made up half the words, which actually did quite detract from the mood/scene/performance... 'Once there was another time I knew that our story would end...' ...?! On Tuesday matinee, he was OK. A couple of line flubs, but it was manageable. I know what you mean about the crying thing, "Diamonds never sparkle... *CRY*. Christine!". The evening: Act 1 was great. Slight hiccup in Beneath a Moonless Sky, but genuinely he was brilliant in act 1. Act 2 was then genuinely a car crash. He called Gustav a vixen ("Bring the vixen back safe and sound"). When he realised his mistake, he then just screamed "just get her here!". During the "Christine, don't think I don't care" bit, he forgot his lines and just went "UGH" instead. I actually felt genuinely bad for him in act 2. I felt tense FOR him whenever he was on stage because he flubbed *every time* he was on stage.
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Post by anthony on Aug 25, 2023 16:13:46 GMT
Saw last Tuesday's matinee. Had a good time overall; catchy Wildhorn songs, great performances (especially Dean John-Wilson as L), impressive production values for a concert - but the story feels like it's missing a few beats.
For example, we're supposed to feel at least some engagement in L and Light's relationship, but L's "only friend" line really didn't land for me. I think they need at least one scene of interaction between Stalemate and Playing His Game. Maybe adapt the anime's café scene, but have L ask Light for help in identifying the second Kira? It would be ironic if, in Light's attempts to win L's trust, he inadvertently gave away clue that implicated Misa. In Act 2, I was kinda disappointed that my favorite song, The Way Things Are, had basically no setup. We already have the beat of Misa mentioning Shinigami in her video message, so why not have a scene showing L and Shoichiro's immediate reactions? It's a pretty iconic moment in the anime. Speaking of Shoichiro, for a character with two solos it's very strange that his character has basically no resolution. Here's an idea off the top of my head: after Misa's memories have been wiped, we could have a scene where L is furiously interrogating her while she grows increasingly distressed. Then Shoichiro can sing a short reprise of There Are Lines ("You can't beat someone/With no evidence/You don't treat someone/This way in self-defense") before angrily rebuking L and making the executive decision to release Misa. You could even have him affirm his trust in his son and express suspicion of L actually being Kira - which would neatly set up Light's final plan. This would also provide a nice segue into The Way Things Are (Reprise), since L would actually have a diegetic reason to grab a gun and threaten Light - he's scared this is his last chance before getting kicked off the case. Misc. other suggestions: 1: The murder of the FBI agents is an important scene but it needed more foreshadowing/"pathos". In the current script it's introduced and resolved in the span of about five minutes. 2: It was very underwhelming for me that after the FBI agents have been killed, there's this melodramatic number where all the detectives lament how their lives are at stake, but in the end only ONE of them leaves. Surely it would be more emotionally resonant for all of them except Shoichiro to leave? 3: One moment where the book should be cut down instead of up - why the hell do we need Rem to explain everything surrounding Gelus? Just have her say that she, like Ryuk, was bored and dropped her own Death Note. Ryuk has already explained that Shinigami die when they extend human lives, so we lose literally nothing except a very tedious exposition dump. 4: I also think the musical as a whole would be stronger with Ryuk in a narrator/storyteller role... but that admittedly would require bigger rewrites. I don't really know too much of the plot other than what we saw in the concert - but both acts were pretty short (around the 50 minute mark, both of them). Made me think that they cut out all of the talking scenes for the "concert"?
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Post by anthony on Aug 25, 2023 15:31:09 GMT
It also seems today is the first performance for Michael Colbourne as the Phantom, which might explain why people were so eager for tickets! (I assume 2nd u/s? haven't seen it since the cast change, but I assume James Gant is still 1st u/s?) Very dashing: pbs.twimg.com/media/F4UFW6iWAAIhEDj?format=jpg&name=large Where have you seen that Michael Colbourne is on as Phantom tonight? That photo is from the cover run they did yesterday (he is 2nd cover Phantom and 1st cover Raoul). Ah - one of the understudy pages retweeted it, so I assumed he was on tonight?
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Post by anthony on Aug 25, 2023 14:42:02 GMT
I imagine the international tourist market is particularly booming for this show, after the closure of the Broadway production. It also seems today is the first performance for Michael Colbourne as the Phantom, which might explain why people were so eager for tickets! (I assume 2nd u/s? haven't seen it since the cast change, but I assume James Gant is still 1st u/s?) Very dashing: pbs.twimg.com/media/F4UFW6iWAAIhEDj?format=jpg&name=large
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Post by anthony on Aug 25, 2023 12:12:53 GMT
Is the day seat process always this glitchy. I’ve been in this morning and they were showing instantly sold out so I kept refreshing and about 10:07 they finally showed the performance. I got 2 in the stalls and clicked booked and managed to then secure them (the little timer in the corner) just as I was about to book it then glitched and said this selection was no longer available. But these were my ticket 😂 I had them in my basket. What are peoples experience with getting day seats for Phantom It used to be fine, but Phantom is going through a little bit of a renaissance at the moment. Used to be able to get tickets at 11:55 a few months back without issue (5 minutes before day tickets "close"), but now it's practically impossible!
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Post by anthony on Aug 25, 2023 12:11:47 GMT
Theatre Cafe have an "exclusive look".
It's actually quite funny. The lead actress: "The acting is phenomenal" (Could come back to haunt her when the reviews come in!). The lead actor: "The music is... very good" haha
I am so excited!
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Post by anthony on Aug 25, 2023 8:41:19 GMT
Even Anthony comment that Tam Mutu was the superior phantom has been left alone as a interesting alternative opinion. It is a fact, I tell you!!! I remember when I saw Tam when he was the understudy, before he became the alternate. When Sierra sang "and I loved you, yes I loved you", Tam slammed his hand down on the desk and shouted 'No!' and it was just so wonderful. I can't explain. It was just so great.
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Post by anthony on Aug 25, 2023 8:26:14 GMT
Also totally random, but for any Drag Race fans... Was it just me, or was Sally Dexter giving MAJOR Jimbo the Ghost vibes? I don't know if it was her facial expression or what, but this was all I could imagine whenever she was on stage... I have read so many posts and it's so upsetting that so many of the comments are not just negative but some so cruel. Constructive critique should of course always be welcomed but it should always be constructive and subjective. The actors are people putting themselves out there for our entertainment. I find it amusing that several members inform us of their intention to 'provide us' with a more detailed review....we wait with bated breath for their pearls... I absolutely loved the show. Who cares about the dodgy story, the flakey script etc. Spoiler alert - IT'S JUST A MUSICAL! It's just intended to provide a couple of hours of wonderful music and singing and transport us away from life. If you 'hate' it so much and almost want it to be a flop, I find it confusing that you buy a ticket. It is so sad that so many posts focus on every little mistake and fluff rather than just sitting back and enjoying an incredible night out. If the performance was so terrible why then did the audience jump to their feet and, god forbid, give a standing ovation, mid show...? I look forward to 'us Brits' being restricted on time allowed for clapping and the 'whooping' ban Hello. I don't think I am being "cruel". Ultimately, it is not my fault that some of the actors on the stage 1) did not bother learning their lines and 2) didn't bother learning anything about the characters. Mme Giry walking around with a grin on her face for most of the Tuesday evening performance just isn't the character. When they're charging the prices they were charging, surely a minimum expectation should be that they learn their lines?! I also never said I hated it - in fact, if you look at my posts you'll see I'm mainly complimentary about LND. But, if people didn't like it, they're entitled not to like it - it seems you just have a problem with people having an opinion that is different to your own. "Who cares about the dodgy story, the flakey script etc. Spoiler alert - IT'S JUST A MUSICAL!". < uhm... yeah... "If the performance was so terrible why then did the audience jump to their feet and, god forbid, give a standing ovation, mid show...?" < Let's be perfectly frank and honest, pretty much everything gets a standing ovation nowadays. Hell, even Bleak Expectations, when I saw it, received a standing ovation! The standing ovation mid-show was in response to Celinde's performance of 'Love Never Dies' < a specific performance of a song. People didn't jump up and give a standing ovation because of Sally Dexter's grin throughout, or Norm Lewis' forgotten lines, lol.
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Post by anthony on Aug 23, 2023 20:38:19 GMT
It’s amazing how just with 3 performances there is such a wide range in opinion of individual performances. Some rating performers highly, others unimpressed. Just goes to show how subjective theatre is I guess. I genuinely think the people praising Norm were drunk during the performance. It's hard to admit because I've loved Norm Lewis for literally years. I was so excited when he was cast... but ultimately, we can't all criticise Auli'i Cravalho and not Lewis. Auli'i is at least a musical theatre novice, Lewis is a veteran who never bothered to thoroughly learn his lines prior to rehearsals starting. Worse, at times when he forgot his lines, he either: 1) waddled around stage saying "sing" over and over (presumably trying to find his place again) or 2) just gave up and groaned down the mic instead (As in "Every... UGH... and hope rests on you now"). I'm really disappointed by his performance. There just isn't an excuse. The matinee wasn't great and whereas yesterday evening started great (his act 1 WAS genuinely good! Even with him starting slightly early for Beneath A Moonless Sky) his act 2 was genuinely shocking. Embarrassing, even. I surely wasn't the only one that felt tense FOR him every time he was on stage, right? Never sure if he'd hit the note, or forget the line, or what...
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Post by anthony on Aug 23, 2023 17:26:51 GMT
Off topic, but what is The Little like? Desperate to book for The Changeling, but I don't want to book for a tiny little theatre where it is going to be me and 10 other people? It doesn't allow you to choose seats...
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Post by anthony on Aug 23, 2023 17:05:44 GMT
Ugh, I'd kill for a revival or tour. Some of the hyperbole above is hilarious: if it offends you, don't go and see it... honestly. It was already toned down a few years ago, by removing a lot of the "gay slurs". Personally, as a gay man, I found them hilarious in the context of the show... People just need to relax... honestly.
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Post by anthony on Aug 23, 2023 14:40:50 GMT
Also totally random, but for any Drag Race fans...
Was it just me, or was Sally Dexter giving MAJOR Jimbo the Ghost vibes?
I don't know if it was her facial expression or what, but this was all I could imagine whenever she was on stage...
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Post by anthony on Aug 23, 2023 14:28:13 GMT
The Cinderella plot was abysmal also. Andy writes gorgeous scores and hires terrible writers. I actually genuinely don't mind the plot too much I just hate the execution of it. I think the ending, at least, needs a major rewrite - all characterisation goes to hell. There are 2 main issues I have with the ending: 1) After they discover Meg has Gustave, the Phantom dramatically yells "I know where they are, but we must go quickly!" before he runs off stage. It's genuinely like a Scooby Doo episode and is completely random and out of character. It also begs the question as to HOW he knows where they are? The entire plot hinges on the Phantom not caring or taking notice of Meg after everything she has done for him - so he would never have known Meg likes swimming. Equally, we never see Gustave and Phantom discuss Gustave's wish to learn how to swim (other than a mention of Gustave being drowned in his nightmare). So the fact the Phantom knows where they are is totally rubbish. They certainly have no reason to believe Meg is about to drown him... 2) "Don't tell Gustave I'm his daddy" "OK I won't lol". 30 minutes later. "GUSTAVE, your father! No, your real one is here! surprise!!!" <<< All of this whilst Christine is dying. Poor Gustave is already having the worse day of his life without discovering that he isn't just losing his mum, but his dad too? It's just awfully written. Comic, even. I don't understand it.
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Post by anthony on Aug 23, 2023 14:07:43 GMT
Cinderella and sunset I knew about. Didn’t realise there was drama on LND - can anyone elaborate pls? The idea of C & Mr E when gorgeous R exists was a huge fan ick for the diehard phans. ALW painted the gorgeous Grade II listed Adelphi black. www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/black-day-for-lord-lloydwebber-as-legal-threat-looms-over-theatre-paint-6459825.htmlAs mentioned above, the nitty gritty of "the night it all went down" lyrics and accompanying ick from audience. ALW / Directors changed loads of things, staging - originally it opened to Fleck huddled on a scabby bit of beach and being found and made to tell what had happened (the story of LND being as how Fleck recalls it). It was reworked to be curtain up and Ramin singing the Til I Hear You Sing - while people around me were putting phones away and that, frankly p*ssed me off. Loads more. Anytime someone types the PND I lose my mind. Have a look at West End Whingers and their review (search bar on their website) ... (I will not link as it will rage me). Isn't it Mme Giry? Mme Giry is walking along the pier several years later and she sees an old poster advertising the Ooh La La Girls and a performance by Christine Daae. Then Fleck crawl out from coats on the floor? "Of course we are still here. The freaks, where else could we exist but here?" and then the Coney Island Walz starts, if I recall correctly? Fleck starts singing and then Mme Giry takes over, Fleck is escorted off stage and Mme Girl is alone on the pier - you're then left alone with Mme Girl as Coney Island comes alive through her eyes. The original Coney Island Waltz was 100% superior! The Waltz is the one thing I think could have been done better yesterday - surely they had some of the old props from the original waltz lying around? My other half (who didn't know the plot!) had no idea what was happening and didn't understand why all of the ensemble were sitting on the floor randomly!)
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Post by anthony on Aug 23, 2023 8:29:37 GMT
Really embarrassing for him to resurrect drama he wasn't even a part of! To be honest, I think everyone just needs to get a bit of a grip and some perspective. It's like the controversy around the letter from The Other Palace to their FoH staff literally thanking them for their service. People are just desperate for drama.
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