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Post by austink on Dec 12, 2022 10:08:51 GMT
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Post by cezbear on Dec 12, 2022 10:21:14 GMT
Well that's interesting news for a Monday. I think it'll suit the smaller space but I'm not convinced the score is strong enough to make an impression. Will be intrigued to see who we get for Danvers though.
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Post by viserys on Dec 12, 2022 10:30:41 GMT
Since it's a show that's very much about "whistling the scenery" I'm really intrigued to see how they plan to do this in such a small space.
But I applaud the Charing Cross Theatre for taking risks with new shows like Allegiance and this next year!
The German fanbois will sell out the small theatre on their own I assume!
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Post by anthony on Dec 12, 2022 10:57:22 GMT
Since it's a show that's very much about "whistling the scenery" I'm really intrigued to see how they plan to do this in such a small space. But I applaud the Charing Cross Theatre for taking risks with new shows like Allegiance and this next year! The German fanbois will sell out the small theatre on their own I assume! This German fanboi has already bought tickets for several performances! I reckon this'll be great; Charing Cross did an amazing job with The Woman in White too. Think this will do well. |
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Post by jgblunners on Dec 12, 2022 11:12:16 GMT
18 piece band and back in the end-on configuration. Great news!
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Post by max on Dec 12, 2022 11:35:18 GMT
For a venue that struggles to quite get 'on the map' it seems crazy to announce this Sept 2023 starter before George Takei's 'Allegiance' has even begun. One of the rules of marketing is keeping a simple message. They've got 3 months of 'Allegiance' to sell!
They might also note that matinees seem to do well at this venue. People will want to travel to see George Takei, or they'll be musical theatre geeks who've heard of 'Rebecca' and find it 'much anticipated'. Taking out the high cost of a necessary hotel, or the risk of late-night train mess ups is a good strategy. I think I'm right that 'Stephen Ward' added further matinees when they realised their audience was mainly older people who remembered the Profumo affair.
I'm quite a regular visitor to this venue, but it seems to learn few lessons and so never quite takes off in the public consciousness. Best thing they could do is beg Paul Taylor Mills to put 'Heathers' in there, or find a star vehicle. If they think they've got that star vehicle with George Takei they've just undermined that.
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Post by funhouse on Dec 12, 2022 12:51:39 GMT
Interesting! I have no idea if this show will work in the UK but I'm happy we're going to find out. I'm glad they went for a new translation.
Now this is pure speculation on my part, but former West End Elphaba Willemijn Verkaik, who is currently playing Mrs Danvers in the Vienna revival of Rebecca, recently flew to London for a day. I wonder if that had anything to do with this?
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Post by Being Alive on Dec 12, 2022 13:05:35 GMT
an 18 piece orchestra certainly makes me consider going back to the hell hole that is the Charing Cross...
Also saw Willemijn was here and I'd certainly be up for that! Someone like Jo Riding would be good though
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Post by Boob on Dec 12, 2022 16:43:36 GMT
Jo Riding would be perfect.
And with an 18 piece orchestra (madness!), I’m in.
If it ever happens…
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Post by austink on Dec 12, 2022 17:23:34 GMT
Well this is the first house show in a long time (other than the short operas they have done and it seems to be that team behind this show). I note that Thom Southerland isn’t the artistic director anymore per the website so will be interesting to know what this looks like from a production view.
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Post by distantcousin on Dec 12, 2022 17:38:09 GMT
Wow! It's only three months after I finally got to see a production (the current Vienna revival) - with very poorly positioned/sized subtitle screens!!!!!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 12, 2022 19:27:22 GMT
Oh dear, this will be tragic.
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Post by AddisonMizner on Dec 12, 2022 21:48:10 GMT
I think that this is quite exciting - especially with that sized orchestra in that space. Any chance of Sierra Boggess do we think? She was due to do it when originally announced years ago.
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Post by mattnyc on Dec 12, 2022 22:17:18 GMT
I believe Sierra is attached to “Harmony”, allegedly coming to Broadway next year.
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Post by max on Dec 12, 2022 23:08:22 GMT
The restrictions of the venue are actually very freeing. No longer holed below the financial waterline by expensively rendering Manderley and having it burn down every night in a feast of spectable, they've instead got space for an 18 piece orchestra to sink the show financially instead.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Dec 12, 2022 23:37:05 GMT
Oh dear, this will be tragic. That's the spirit ! 
You have a problem with bootlegs but no problem pissing all over a production before it even opens?
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Post by anthony on Dec 13, 2022 7:01:09 GMT
I just really don't think this will be tragic. I reckon Charing Cross is the perfect place for it. Like I said, everyone said the same about The Woman in White, but they did wonderfully with it.
I see people on social media complaining about the English lyrics, but it's stupid to think that the English demo that was recorded literally nearly 20 years ago (2003!!) are the lyrics they will use. It surely would have went through major rewrites when it was due to open on Broadway; the English language version of the title song from Pia Douwes' album probably gives a better idea of the translation that will be used, but even then, it's silly to think that thought wouldn't have went into the translation.
(Original demo version is here:
Besides, if this is a reasonable success.... GIVE IS ELISABETH.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jan 29, 2023 19:15:56 GMT
Interesting documentary
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Post by Seriously on Jan 30, 2023 0:08:47 GMT
Presumably there won't be much stage left for any staging after the 18 musicians have arrived!
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Post by anthony on Feb 18, 2023 12:06:44 GMT
Genuinely cannot explain how excited I am for this.
Just WATCH:
I really hope they get it right... I hope it's not a Tanz der Vampire 2.0. I wonder if they'll try for Willemijn Verkaik for Danvers - she's currently playing her on Vienna and is obviously already a name. Ticket sales so far aren't great. Rebecca closes in Vienna just before rehearsals would likely start for London...
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Post by Scswp on Feb 21, 2023 14:10:50 GMT
I hope they get Willemijn to play Danvers, but I’m not sure how likely that will be.
I saw the production in Vienna and Willemijn sang the role very powerfully. I just question why she would want to complete a long run in a ‘fully-fledged’ production and then move on to a scaled-down production with, presumably, a significantly scaled-down fee?
Crossing my fingers for her (as I have tickets), but not too optimistic it will actually happen.
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Post by interval99 on Mar 21, 2023 17:58:49 GMT
Picked up a flyer for this while at Allegiance and surprised to see it's already listing run time of 2.15. no mention of interval but presume there is one, the website also shows the 2.15 time.
While I know it's an existing show several members have already said it will need restage for the smaller theatre so surprised they are being so definite about times so early on. Think even the straight staged version of it was longer than 2.15.
Looking forward to seeing it, as however it does play the original book remains a masterpiece of storytelling
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Post by mattnyc on Mar 21, 2023 19:45:29 GMT
I hope we get some casting news soon!
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 21, 2023 20:55:46 GMT
I've inside knowledge that this is selling very well!
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Post by mattnyc on Mar 21, 2023 21:09:06 GMT
I've inside knowledge that this is selling very well! I just did a search of some dates and there’s hardly anything sold for them. |
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Post by graham on Mar 22, 2023 8:39:52 GMT
Picked up a flyer for this while at Allegiance and surprised to see it's already listing run time of 2.15. no mention of interval but presume there is one, the website also shows the 2.15 time. While I know it's an existing show several members have already said it will need restage for the smaller theatre so surprised they are being so definite about times so early on. Think even the straight staged version of it was longer than 2.15. Looking forward to seeing it, as however it does play the original book remains a masterpiece of storytelling Surprised at this, as it's currently running at 2h 40m in Vienna!! There's scope for some trimming, but not sure you can hack nearly 30 minutes out! |
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Post by distantcousin on Mar 22, 2023 8:52:21 GMT
I hope they get Willemijn to play Danvers, but I’m not sure how likely that will be. I saw the production in Vienna and Willemijn sang the role very powerfully. I just question why she would want to complete a long run in a ‘fully-fledged’ production and then move on to a scaled-down production with, presumably, a significantly scaled-down fee? Crossing my fingers for her (as I have tickets), but not too optimistic it will actually happen.
Same. Purely by chance I happened to catch her in Vienna last September. She was head and shoulders above the rest of the cast
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Post by FrontroverPaul on Mar 22, 2023 9:45:02 GMT
Picked up a flyer for this while at Allegiance and surprised to see it's already listing run time of 2.15. no mention of interval but presume there is one, the website also shows the 2.15 time. While I know it's an existing show several members have already said it will need restage for the smaller theatre so surprised they are being so definite about times so early on. Think even the straight staged version of it was longer than 2.15. Looking forward to seeing it, as however it does play the original book remains a masterpiece of storytelling I've noticed that there is some inconsistency whether advertised running times include the interval. This is outside the West End though. Recently at a provincial theatre there was a sign reading something like " Running time is 2 hours 20 minutes with a 20 minute interval" To my mind the word "with" is ambiguous in this context - does it mean including or plus the 20 minute break ? In that case a slightly delayed 2.30 start, a 25 minute interval, and a 5.15 finish was the reality. Accurate information is important for people like me catching a train / bus after the show and for car drivers not getting a parking ticket ! |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 22, 2023 20:46:09 GMT
I've inside knowledge that this is selling very well! I just did a search of some dates and there’s hardly anything sold for them. I am just sharing what I was told. :-) |
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Post by glinda on Apr 23, 2023 17:00:47 GMT
So willemijn just announced on Instagram that she'll be leaving the Vienna production on 24 June 🧐
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