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Post by mrnutz on Feb 8, 2022 15:05:59 GMT
Managed to get a £125 seat for £60 at the first Saturday preview so I'm happy with that. May try for a PWC ticket closer to the time!
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Post by Mark on Feb 22, 2022 12:04:20 GMT
700 in front in the queue and a 40 minute wait ahead to buy tickets, but will hold out. First time trying for the PWC £10 tickets so hoping I can still get some when I get to the front!
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Post by Dave B on Feb 22, 2022 12:23:07 GMT
A lot more in the queue than last PWC previews. Got in in about 18 minutes to still find huge availability. Not sure if they are doing something funny with the stage as it looks like seating only starts around row H or so. Two booked in row J. That'll do.
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Post by Mark on Feb 22, 2022 13:00:54 GMT
Got 2 in row U stalls eventually, queue seemed to be moving very slowly today (took a fair bit longer than their estimate!) but glad to have them.
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Post by jacknorwood on Feb 22, 2022 15:37:04 GMT
Seemed super slow for me today. Joined the queue at midday and had 1600 in the queue ahead of me. Took about an hour and 15 minutes to get in. Still some good availability at that point nevertheless but then got dumped back in the queue with another hour long wait when I tried to go to the basket to pay for them! The basket had been emptied by the point I got back in. Not normally this bad, so hope it was just a one off.
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Post by Forrest on Feb 22, 2022 19:36:31 GMT
Thank you all for reminding me that this is something I actually want to see! (Rupert Goold!)
Booked one lonely last PwC ticket in the Circle for the 2nd of April. Happy.
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Post by ceebee on Feb 23, 2022 9:55:31 GMT
Agree, the virtual queue was slow, though I managed to get a nice stalks seat for a tenner. Looking forward to this!
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Post by mrnutz on Mar 29, 2022 8:40:39 GMT
This opens tonight - anyone going this week? I'm there on Sat.
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Post by mkb on Mar 29, 2022 8:51:53 GMT
This opens tonight - anyone going this week? I'm there on Sat. I'm keen to know too please. If anyone there tonight could make a note of the actual finish time that would be very useful. The Old Vic are estimating 2:20 on a 128-page script, so I'm hoping I can make the 22:30 from Euston on Friday.
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Post by Dave B on Mar 29, 2022 9:05:46 GMT
This opens tonight - anyone going this week? I'm there on Sat.
Yup, we are going Thursday night. Will note finishing time for you mkb if no-one has managed it before then.
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Post by mkb on Mar 29, 2022 9:09:34 GMT
Thanks!
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Post by drmaplewood on Mar 29, 2022 9:16:00 GMT
I'm going tomorrow.
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Post by ceebee on Mar 29, 2022 20:43:07 GMT
I'm going Wednesday. Run time is 2hr20 plus 15 min interval supposedly.
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Post by mjh on Mar 29, 2022 21:46:10 GMT
Started 10mins late this evening and let out at 10.25.
Meant to be 72mins each half.
They had the understudy for Joe Biden on who was fine. Lots of room for tightening it up but overall I wasn’t particularly gripped.
Bertie Carvel is excellent and his physical transformation particularly impressive. Tamara Tunie also solid. Lydia Wilson less so.
Set extends out beyond proscenium with a large revolve that’s sparsely used and results in a fairly high stage.
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Post by mkb on Mar 30, 2022 3:02:50 GMT
Thanks for the timings. Much appreciated.
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Post by drmaplewood on Mar 31, 2022 7:38:15 GMT
Thought this was really poor. Bertie is excellent and carries it but the whole thing just feels utterly pointless and like a glossier version of Spitting Image. Several walkouts at the interval, including my friend so I at least had some more leg room in the second half. 2 stars.
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Post by fossil on Mar 31, 2022 12:55:39 GMT
Just noticed there are four £10 tickets for row L for tonight, I was in row L last night and this row probably offers the best view for this particlar production.
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Post by Mark on Mar 31, 2022 21:51:48 GMT
I quite liked it. Bertie in particular was brilliant. Very similar in writing style to King Charles III, almost imitating Shakespeare as a “Future History” play. I feel that Bartlett could have dug deeper, but in all honesty this play is very much a play of today and has a limited expiry date. It’s certainly a possibility that some of the events in this play could come about.
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Post by Dave B on Mar 31, 2022 22:16:47 GMT
I thought this was dreadful, unfunny with the cheapest of gags throughout. Sure Bertie Carvel does a great impersonation but ... that's all there is to this. It's a bad SNL skit extended to well over two hours. Ugh.
I do feel a bit bad for this but I was amused when four people a few rows behind didn't even wait for the interval to leave but after 30 minutes had clearly had enough.
Out at 22.15 this evening.
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Post by Steve on Mar 31, 2022 22:25:55 GMT
Saw this tonight, and it was a middling show. I loved the Shakespeare style verse, with echoes of multiple Shakespeare plays, and I loved Bertie Carvel's immaculate melding of Trump's speech patterns into such coherent Shakespeare style monologues, but the dramatic structure was weak and unfocused, the real threat of Trump presented in shorthand, and other characters were not recognisable as their real selves (with the exception perhaps of Eric Trump). . . Some spoilers follow. . . Echoes of King Lear, Richard III, Richard II, Macbeth and Julius Caesar were marvellously done, and were terrifically entertaining. Bertie Carvel speaks both Trump and Shakespeare so fluently that, whether it was Trump as King Lear dividing his Kingdom, or Trump as Mark Antony, lasering Ted Cruz with the "honourable man" speech, or Trump as Richard II telling sad stories of the death of despots, or even in the overall framing device of Trump as Richard III deliciously monologuing to overthrow the natural order of things, every moment of this was simultaneously rivetting and hilarious. Also a plus, Freddie Meredith as Eric Trump, while a caricature, is an understated delight in his every appearance. However, Trump's real threat has always been his disdain for democracy, and whether it was the lip service to his worship of despots (with nary a mention of Putin) or the irritating Q-Anon interpretive dance as a shorthand way of communicating Trump's effect (with no attempt to explain the origin or psychology of Q-Anon adherents), the actual plot of the show comes across as thin and unambitious, much less scary than real life. And shock horror, Carvel disappears from the show for huge lengths of running time, during which the absence of his magic presence allows us to really feel the thinness. Some characterisations feel wrong too. Don Jr's apparently coke addled anti-democratic mini-me despotism is entirely ignored to present him as thoroughly rational, and Kamala Harris is presented as commanding and likeable, ignoring the smirking smugness that is her actual Achilles heel. Thankfully, Lydia Wilson is highly effective as Ivanka Trump, the polished muted face of Trumpism, just as she was as the equally scheming Kate in the far more effective and focused Charles III. However, here her part is underwritten, so the full force of her characterisation comes a little too late. This show has it's pluses and minuses, but it's Carvel who is the marvel. And I wouldn't miss his performance. 3 and a half stars from me, mostly for Carvel's precision, his comic inflections, his Shakespearan fluency, and his incredible charisma in the role.
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Post by romeo94 on Mar 31, 2022 22:27:39 GMT
I didn't understand the set at all. Also, the shape of it looked as if it was built with the Almeida in mind rather than the Old Vic. The writing (and indeed some of the performances) were very clunky.
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 31, 2022 22:54:56 GMT
Interesting idea, not well executed.
As other have said Bertie is terrific and the physical transformation is so extreme I forgot it wasn't trump after about 39 seconds. I liked Tamara Tunie a lot as Kamala, but thought Lydia Wilson weak and disengaging.
Overall I just found it very meh - at the end of Act 1 I was very much 'this is not good' although they largely won me back in act 2 (terrific scene between trump and Harris that really moved it up a gear). Final scene 50 shades of whackadoodle. Total lost me. Bartlett was sat behind me and I wanted to turn round and go 'eh?!'
Critics will not be kind, and it's a shame as I think there is a good idea somewhere in there. Bartlett just hasn't found it, or needs more time. It felt like a first workshop more than a finished piece to me. Too many threads that seemed to be important in Act 2, never mentioned again in act 2.
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Post by mrnutz on Apr 1, 2022 8:50:06 GMT
I was supposed to be seeing this tomorrow but unfortunately COVID had other plans for me.
Sounds like I might have dodged a bullet, though still keen to see Carvel's performance. A clip or two would be fine...
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Post by mkb on Apr 2, 2022 9:57:42 GMT
I thought the cast, including two understudies, were excellent, with the exception of Carvel. His is a very good performance, just not the right performance. He -- or the director, maybe -- has gone for a skittish comic-book Trump rather than the full horror of the real-life version. His intonation is too high pitched, and, despite the prosthetics, he looks far too young (at least from the third row).
As with King Charles III, there is much to admire in this Shakespearean tragedy especially Bartlett's clever use of language. Where The 47th differs is that the drama is less interesting, and the villains are ones we've already had our fill of. Trump words and deeds that still shock and make one recoil, are diminished when a small number in the audience emit silly giggles as if this were a trivial sitcom.
With tightening of both acts down to an hour apiece, this would be a four-star play; as it stands during previews, it's three-star, but still a must-see.
The protruding circular stage is high to accommodate a revolve that adds little during its occasional use. I would have preferred a static lower stage. From the centre of Stalls row J, I could just see the sloping surface.
Act 1: 19:34-20:45 Act 2: 21:02-22:12
Note to Old Vic management: 15 minutes is too short, rushed and stressful for the interval, especially with your toilets.
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Post by mrnutz on Apr 4, 2022 8:59:08 GMT
This is heavily discounting on TodayTix for 24 hours.
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Post by partytentdown on Apr 4, 2022 9:04:19 GMT
This is heavily discounting on TodayTix for 24 hours. And this is why I'm just going to stop buying tickets for stuff the second they go on sale. These £20 ones are better than mine which cost £50+ each. It's hard to stay loyal to the individual venues/box offices when almost everything ends up doing this a few weeks later.
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Post by mrnutz on Apr 4, 2022 9:06:51 GMT
This is heavily discounting on TodayTix for 24 hours. And this is why I'm just going to stop buying tickets for stuff the second they go on sale. These £20 ones are better than mine which cost £50+ each. It's hard to stay loyal to the individual venues/box offices when almost everything ends up doing this a few weeks later. Old Vic do no-questions-asked refunds via credit vouchers, if you wanted to...
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Post by partytentdown on Apr 4, 2022 9:54:17 GMT
And this is why I'm just going to stop buying tickets for stuff the second they go on sale. These £20 ones are better than mine which cost £50+ each. It's hard to stay loyal to the individual venues/box offices when almost everything ends up doing this a few weeks later. Old Vic do no-questions-asked refunds via credit vouchers, if you wanted to... God point!
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Post by noboiscout on Apr 4, 2022 10:04:02 GMT
I quite liked it. Bertie in particular was brilliant. Very similar in writing style to King Charles III, almost imitating Shakespeare as a “Future History” play. I feel that Bartlett could have dug deeper, but in all honesty this play is very much a play of today and has a limited expiry date. It’s certainly a possibility that some of the events in this play could come about. I thought at the outset that this was going to grate, when I heard the Shakespearean rhyming. Then I settled in and really began to enjoy it. I didn't find the humour to be overdone, though I can understand others not liking it. The problem with Trump and what is happening with politics in the USA and elsewhere, is that if you don't laugh, you will cry. I liked all the cast, and even though I am far from a fan of Shakespeare, enjoyed spotting the references to various plays - King Lear? Macbeth? Overall 4*
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Post by anthony on Apr 4, 2022 11:31:46 GMT
Seeing this tonight and quite excited!
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