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Post by edi on Dec 18, 2021 12:19:24 GMT
Hi,
Someone who understands theatre would you please explain how they change an actor's outfit within a blink of an eye on stage?
Like Heather Duke's or the villain in Aladdin. What is the technique behind the trick?
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Post by lynette on Dec 18, 2021 14:45:31 GMT
It’s a mystery…
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Post by TallPaul on Dec 18, 2021 15:13:27 GMT
You are Toyah Willcox, and I claim my £5. |
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Post by londonpostie on Dec 18, 2021 15:16:49 GMT
Isn't it velcro with the change already underneath?
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Post by alece10 on Dec 18, 2021 15:23:22 GMT
It's the magic of theatre.
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Post by edi on Dec 18, 2021 16:06:11 GMT
Isn't it velcro with the change already underneath? Must be, but it's still amazing how I cannot even spot a trace of the outfit underneath, and how fast the change is. BTW for both Heathers and Aladdin I was sitting front row!!! |
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Post by G on Dec 18, 2021 16:50:24 GMT
I have always wondered about the quick change to pink vests during Turn it Off in Book of Mormon.
That's just gilets so not a complicated costume but the change is incredibly fast and there is no obvious place where they could be storing them. Presumably in their pants and snapped in place with velcro or magnets?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 18, 2021 16:57:20 GMT
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Post by theatreian on Dec 18, 2021 17:04:45 GMT
Maybe Lea Kyle could give the Royal family some tips as I understand they often change outfits several times during the day and evening!
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Post by alece10 on Dec 18, 2021 17:20:33 GMT
I have always wondered about the quick change to pink vests during Turn it Off in Book of Mormon. That's just gilets so not a complicated costume but the change is incredibly fast and there is no obvious place where they could be storing them. Presumably in their pants and snapped in place with velcro or magnets? Same here. I was watching it last week and though how clever and quick it was. |
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Post by alece10 on Dec 18, 2021 17:22:56 GMT
I know how they do the costume change in Feozen (which is quite simple but effective) but won't spoil the magic.
I've also seen some very clever quick change artists on variety shows over the years and remember seeing a show at the Garrick years ago with an Italian artist whose costumes were all made of paper. It was amazing.
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Post by edi on Dec 18, 2021 18:17:04 GMT
I know how they do the costume change in Feozen (which is quite simple but effective) but won't spoil the magic. I've also seen some very clever quick change artists on variety shows over the years and remember seeing a show at the Garrick years ago with an Italian artist whose costumes were all made of paper. It was amazing. I wish you would spoil the magic because this is KILLING me 🤣🤣 |
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Post by edi on Dec 18, 2021 18:17:48 GMT
I have always wondered about the quick change to pink vests during Turn it Off in Book of Mormon. That's just gilets so not a complicated costume but the change is incredibly fast and there is no obvious place where they could be storing them. Presumably in their pants and snapped in place with velcro or magnets? Ah yeah that one, too. Yet again I was sitting front row... |
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Post by mkb on Dec 18, 2021 18:44:50 GMT
I know how they do the costume change in Feozen (which is quite simple but effective) but won't spoil the magic. I've also seen some very clever quick change artists on variety shows over the years and remember seeing a show at the Garrick years ago with an Italian artist whose costumes were all made of paper. It was amazing. I wish you would spoil the magic because this is KILLING me 🤣🤣 When it comes to magic tricks, the world is divided into those who do not want to know the mechanisms and those who do. As someone in the latter category, I can assure that discovering the "secrets" absolutely does not spoil the magic; on the contrary, it makes me even more appreciative and in awe of the skills in play. Penn and Teller do a particularly impressive version of the trick involving the ball under one of three cups ... with transparent cups! I see nothing wrong with sharing explanations behind spoiler tags for those who want to know. Not doing so I find a bit condescending and cliquey: "I know but you can't join our club." |
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Post by alece10 on Dec 18, 2021 19:00:04 GMT
I wish you would spoil the magic because this is KILLING me 🤣🤣 When it comes to magic tricks, the world is divided into those who do not want to know the mechanisms and those who do. As someone in the latter category, I can assure that discovering the "secrets" absolutely does not spoil the magic; on the contrary, it makes me even more appreciative and in awe of the skills in play. Penn and Teller do a particularly impressive version of the trick involving the ball under one of three cups ... with transparent cups! I see nothing wrong with sharing explanations behind spoiler tags for those who want to know. Not doing so I find a bit condescending and cliquey: "I know but you can't join our club." I'm not being "condescending or cliquey" I just don't know how to do a spoiler tag but feel free to do it yourself it if you wish. |
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Post by mkb on Dec 18, 2021 19:26:29 GMT
Sorry, I was perhaps a little harsh.
You format as:
(SPOILER) text (/SPOILER)
but use square brackets rather than parentheses.
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Post by The Matthew on Dec 18, 2021 20:02:32 GMT
As someone in the latter category, I can assure that discovering the "secrets" absolutely does not spoil the magic; on the contrary, it makes me even more appreciative and in awe of the skills in play. Penn and Teller do a particularly impressive version of the trick involving the ball under one of three cups ... with transparent cups! That's how I feel. It doesn't spoil the magic because everybody knows there's no such thing as magic. I'm most enchanted with "magic" when I know how it's done and I still can't see it happen even when I know exactly what I'm looking for. It's the ingenuity of the implementation and the deftness of the execution that impresses me. |
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Post by Dr Tom on Dec 18, 2021 20:18:02 GMT
I have always wondered about the quick change to pink vests during Turn it Off in Book of Mormon. I couldn't tell you exactly, but you might notice they have two periods when the lights go out - and also two more people in the dance routine than before the lights out. It sounds like the tap dancing is going on while the change is happening, but I am sure that is pre-recorded. Heathers, if you know when it's coming you can see that change (still very impressive). One outfit on top of the other. Frozen, there was a news story a few weeks ago about when the quick change went wrong, which gives that one away. All very impressive, as is the one in Jamie. |
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Post by bimse on Dec 19, 2021 0:11:46 GMT
I know how they do the costume change in Feozen (which is quite simple but effective) but won't spoil the magic. I've also seen some very clever quick change artists on variety shows over the years and remember seeing a show at the Garrick years ago with an Italian artist whose costumes were all made of paper. It was amazing. The Italian performer you saw alece10 would be Ennio Marchetto, I saw him at the City Varieties in Leeds a few years back, a unique act, amazing indeed. |
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Post by sph on Dec 19, 2021 2:00:42 GMT
I have always wondered about the quick change to pink vests during Turn it Off in Book of Mormon. That's just gilets so not a complicated costume but the change is incredibly fast and there is no obvious place where they could be storing them. Presumably in their pants and snapped in place with velcro or magnets? Tucked into their pants. And it's just a vest that loops straight over their head. Very simple. |
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Post by Peter on Dec 19, 2021 9:58:50 GMT
I seem to remember in the case of Our House (the nature of the plot necessitating several quick changes alongside various other tricks and misdirection to sell the ‘two timelines’ narrative), some of the costumes were held on / together with magnets?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 9:48:45 GMT
There are some amazing quick changes in Diana - The Musical. How she gets into the wedding dress, when you have already seen someone singing under the veil, I have no idea. Where does she go?? I wonder if you can see on stage.
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Post by bimse on Dec 21, 2021 6:18:26 GMT
Helen Mirren had a superbly executed quick change in The Audience, from older Queen to young Queen , right at the beginning , when she was about to have an audience with Winston Churchill for the first time . She went to sit at a desk and the change was covered by people attending the Queen or moving props , but was very slick .
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Post by alece10 on Dec 21, 2021 11:24:49 GMT
Helen Mirren had a superbly executed quick change in The Audience, from older Queen to young Queen , right at the beginning , when she was about to have an audience with Winston Churchill for the first time . She went to sit at a desk and the change was covered by people attending the Queen or moving props , but was very slick . I was going to say the same. It was amazing. Change of dress, wig and make up. |
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Post by crabtree on Dec 21, 2021 12:54:25 GMT
Yep the Queen changes were so effective, so much more exciting when a change is done in a context, rather that the numerous britain's Got talent videos of a lady artlessly leaning against a wall whilst someone lurks behind, ready to pull.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 18:03:20 GMT
CHF once posted a video about the Heathers quick change how it was done. Panto dames certainly use a lot of velcro. The BGT girl took this to another level similar to the great Arturo Brachetti who I can rememver seeing on TV way back in the late 1980's and he has done several London runs over the years.
Arturo like the BGT girl used certain magic tricks and other magicians have done the quick change as part of a routine. Whether some of these tricks have worked their way down to theatres for onstage changes I don't know. Otherwise it is very tightly timed and lots of layers, clothing that could be dropped off, double sided, double purpose clothes which the wardrobe dept do their "magic" on.
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