Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 9, 2020 13:13:43 GMT
Members of a Neo Nazi group went to prison for making death threats against them and for inciting racial hatred. Meghan’s own half-sister has been put on Scotland Yard’s Fixated Persons list. Both the Daily Mail and the Sun have admitted to inventing stories about them. And that’s just what we’re aware of, it’s probably the tip of the iceberg.
Let’s not pretend this is just a few nasty comments online they can and should ignore. No one should have to ignore the obsessive hatred and abuse and outright racism Meghan has faced.
Accidental initiator of the great Horse Pun War of 2019.
They have both commented about how the press have made them unhappy but you know what? Stop reading it, keep calm and carry on.
Worked well for his Mum, letting the press get what they wanted, didn't it?
This all comes back to Diana and how she was used, abused and hounded to her death. If William still wants to play that dangerous game, it appears that Harry is prepared to do differently.
Diana was no longer HRH, courted the press and used them to her advantage in her divorce. It then became a monster she couldn't control. That's what I actually think might happen here - by doing away with the existing model (that actually offers a large amount of privacy) they're creating an open season: they'll become 'fair game'. Just because they might opt to work with certain publications of their own choosing, doesn't mean the rest will leave them alone... far from it. The more you try to control the press the more of an animal it will become.
Why do people keep going on about the Frogmore cottage renovation? This has been answered a million times. It's part of historic royal palaces, owned by the Queen, she has a responsibility to maintain it, and the maintenance was due anyway. They didn't get £2m spent on them, the Queen spent it on routine maintenance.
Then then paid for their own redecoration, fixtures and fittings. They are tenants of the Queen - the Queen still owns the property.
As for the wedding - can you imagine the howls of outrage if it had not been a big public affair? If they'd eloped and married in secret? (The only way to avoid it costing a fortune in security arrangements). The press would have been livid. We certainly had a massive boost to visitor numbers due to it, and a whole bunch of British business made money out of it.
We didn't 'pay for them to get married', we paid for a huge public event that promoted the country around the world. It's really, really stupid to claim that was a benefit to them - I'd bet anything they'd have had a lot more fun if they could have had a private wedding.
I think the pair of them come off as hugely entitled and selfish. They could very easily wait until the Queen has gone to pull this one and in the meantime quietly “work to becoming self supporting” so that when they do bugger off to America they’ve got the financial means to cut ties. What theyre doing instead will be incredibly hurtful to the Queen who more than any of them understands what Royal duty means. They’re also cutting ties without apparently having the financial means to do so. So they swan off and do what they want, and we carry on paying for it. As someone said on the radiothis morning, you don’t leave the job and keep the company car.
No, they can't. They literally cannot make a private income without first cutting financial ties in this way - they are legally prohibited from doing so.
They are cutting ties so that 'we' are no longer paying for them. Not that 'we' ever really were - the Sovereign Grant is taken from the income of the Crown Estates, the 'Duchy of Cornwall' income is private family wealth. None of that comes from tax.
I’ve looked this up and everything Ive found says that the sovereign grant is what the government pays to the royal family, and that this amounts to about 65p per uk tax payer.
Yup. Crown owns Crown Estate. Crown hands the revenue of Crown Estate to the government, government hand a percentage of those revenues back for upkeep of monarchy - including all the historic Royal Palaces (at the moment it’s 25% because of the cost of Buckingham Palace being renovated, it would usually be a lot less than that), art collections, funding the offices of the working Royals and covering their living expenses. Harry and Megan only ever had 5% of their office expenses covered by Sovereign grant - but that meant they could not make private income from work. The rest covered by Harry’s inheritance from Princess Di and the Duchy of Cornwall - which is private wealth the same as any other aristocrats, generated by rents and business activities.
Tax payers cover security separately. Total cost of the monarchy is £1 per taxpayer per year.
The monarchy generates considerably more than that to GDP via tourism and business opportunities, etc, not to mention the international ‘soft power’ influence that they have. Particularly important for political links with the Commonwealth.
If the monarchy were ever abolished there would be a very nasty legal fight to be had over the Crown Estate, because of there’s no Crown then who owns it? The government would have no claim legally on any of the Duchy revenues - legally it is private property.
This is why I am confident they could earn more from professional work than they are getting from SG - they weren’t getting much to start with. They can’t personally do anything about their security cost other than take practical steps to keep it low - they are not going to stop being at risk. If they were successfully attacked, e.g. by terrorist organisations looking to make a statement, there would an absolutely massive fall-out. I mean, can you imagine? It’ll cost a lot less to provide security for them at Windsor than at any private residence they bought for themselves elsewhere, so Frogmore is actually very practical and cost-effective from that point of view.
My concern is their safety. Think about it. Diana killed in Paris, John Lennon as example of high profile person murdered in New York. I think they would be safer in London. They are gonna need vigorous security in our present world.
Second siblings in the R F not done well recently. Margaret no role, lost it, Andrew no comment, the Queen's own dad was messed up having to become number 1 when he was comfortable as a number 2. Harry is sixth in line, he ain’t gonna be king. The Queen has shown with the recent photos and appearances that she and Charles are all for the direct line only. Cousins out of it and Harry and Meghan would be suffering for not much, more importantly their kids would be suffering. Anne let her kids disengage and they are happy and I believe solvent.