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Post by Dave25 on Mar 28, 2016 22:21:13 GMT
I like the idea of Nicole as Gigi. I think Lady Gaga is a bit too edgy for Ellen, who is plain cookie cutter as they come. I would rather "save" Gaga for a Broadway revival of Funny Girl I see your point, but I think she has it in her, she has some kind of a soft, compassionate and sound side that she doesn't show often. The styling could help too, make her very tidy, old fashioned, in a dress and curly hair, etc. I also think she has the dramatic depth for it. She could surprise us. Type-wise I think Amy Adams would be a perfect fit for the role too, but to be honest, I would like to see better singers. Only then it will feel natural.
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Post by theatre-turtle on Mar 28, 2016 22:23:22 GMT
I read quite an interesting plot hole on another website recently. If the Engineer is half French, why didn't he just pursue French citizenship through legal means (birthright) rather than attempting to get into the USA - this possible route isn't acknowledged in the play at all.
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Post by SamB (was badoerfan) on Mar 29, 2016 12:23:00 GMT
He presumably has no proof that he's half-French, either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 14:49:11 GMT
I read quite an interesting plot hole on another website recently. If the Engineer is half French, why didn't he just pursue French citizenship through legal means (birthright) rather than attempting to get into the USA - this possible route isn't acknowledged in the play at all. Because he wouldn't be able to sing 'The American Dream' then. 'The French Dream' just doesn't scan.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 29, 2016 16:31:41 GMT
Does Simon Bowman have a solo version of Last Night of the World? I'm on ATG on hold and there is a cheesy solo version of the song and I think it's Mr. Bowman. Needless to say and per the lyrics, it's "a crazy sound!"
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Post by Dave25 on Apr 2, 2016 12:08:37 GMT
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Post by ali973 on Apr 2, 2016 13:12:34 GMT
Dude, they will never do the same 80s version. Impossible to mount these days with these costs. The Broadway edition will be based on the recent London version. The film, if there is one, will be its own thing obviously.
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Post by danielwhit on Apr 2, 2016 13:40:19 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the Broadway version is the same physical set as the West End was (considering it's several years old and it may be easier to build a second set designed to tour).
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Post by ali973 on Apr 2, 2016 14:28:44 GMT
Isn't the Broadway version credited for the same team that did the same revival? Naturally it would be the same set and direction. I was never under the impression that the upcoming Broadway transfer would be any different than the recent West End version, which will tour. It's a natural progression to have this version tour, open in the US, then tour the US and open in as many locations as possible. We've seen it happen with Les Miz successfully, it only makes sense for Mackintosh to duplicate the same model by opening the same version across the world with the same team while they are still making money out of it.
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Post by tf on Apr 3, 2016 2:34:12 GMT
About the sets for the upcoming Broadway transfer, I had read this, though with a grain of salt given the Daily Mail's reputation. "Mackintosh explained that he’s waiting to sort out a Broadway transfer for Miss Saigon, currently running at the venue. He said he intends to take the sets being used in London to New York; otherwise, the move would be too expensive."
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Post by daniel on Apr 3, 2016 11:29:25 GMT
About the sets for the upcoming Broadway transfer, I had read this, though with a grain of salt given the Daily Mail's reputation. "Mackintosh explained that he’s waiting to sort out a Broadway transfer for Miss Saigon, currently running at the venue. He said he intends to take the sets being used in London to New York; otherwise, the move would be too expensive." That article is actually from last June - I think some things have changed since then. The Broadway transfer and UK tour are both definitely happening. I think it's presumed that the London set will tour and a new one will be conjured up for Broadway, but I guess it could work out either way.
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Post by richey on Apr 10, 2016 10:48:40 GMT
just came across this on youtube from MCC theatre Miscast. wow!
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Post by talkstageytome on Apr 10, 2016 11:18:43 GMT
Love it! Lea Salonga is immensely talented, one of my favourite performers by far (I booked to see Allegiance in NY purely to see her. One of the best decisions I've ever made, despite the show only being so-so in my opinion!). Both her acting and singing are hugely affecting!
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Post by westendfan on Apr 17, 2016 19:41:27 GMT
I'd LOVE to see Lea in her own concert here. She only ever seems to do concerts in New York. Surely she'd sell out a few nights in one of the theatres?
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Post by ali973 on Apr 17, 2016 19:50:20 GMT
She'd sell very successfully in London. If it was a Leicester Square gig she can sell out a few performances easily. I'd love it if she does it and maybe guest star Rachelle Ann Go and Eva Noblezada. That'll be fab.
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Post by Dave25 on Apr 17, 2016 20:21:29 GMT
(I posted this in another thread but I wanted it to place it here too, because it is about Miss Saigon and the discussion about the film will probably continue in this thread.)
I am really looking forward to a Miss Saigon film, but only if they go all the way with great singers and great actors and not the "toned down, constantly switching between acting and singing in 1 sentence, Les Mis film" way. Because that makes it silly. It is too literal for this material.
This artform is per definition not literal, it is a triumph of the fantasy. Treating it as such creates raw emotion. We should see and hear things that aren't really there, because at many points in this story they are singing about something that is in their mind. ("This is the hour" after Kim shot Thuy, is a moment of complete horror/bewilderment in Kim's mind. Show it. I can see her standing in a undefinable space with a huge choir of ghosts singing. The nightmare, last night of the world, etc) I can imagine wonderful elaborate cinematography, special effects, ghost faces singing, smoke that turns into an image, moving camera's, big black spaces, romantic scenes that look better than life, etc. Last night of the world feels like a dream for them. Show it. Make it theatrical, big and muggy, also with the sets. Create a bigger than life sub-reality to make the essence of this material work. Realize that certain softly sung notes or soaring notes work as emotion evokers/actors themselves. Use them, act through them instead of trying to act in spite of them. Speaking 4 words and vibrate on the 5th is not the solution.
Also, we don't have to see the person mouthing all the words into the camera at every occasion, certain songs can be, in parts used as a kind of soundtrack/voice-over. I can imagine during the pre-recorded "I still believe", we see scenes of Kim and Chris that we know have happened, but haven't seen before, this is their thoughts being sung. They could also use very creative cinematography in the transition to Ellen in the USA in that song. Or in the nightmare scene.
I feel that there is a way of musical film-making that has not been done yet. A way that uses fantastic singing in a very filmic and theatrical way. A way that has been done in animation, but not in live action yet.
I feel the only films that came close to this approach were Evita, Moulin Rouge and Chicago, but still not quite there and the singing in those was mediocre. Imagine if both things are outstanding. That would be epic.
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Post by Dave25 on Apr 21, 2016 14:43:28 GMT
I found this clip of the US tour today, seems like a great production.
I love all the lyric changes in the London revival, but in this particular scene I wish they had kept: "It's done, it's planned, the girl is smart, she'll understand". It sounds so much more painful than "Kim is smart". Also, "we will do what is right, right for him, right for us, right for Kim", instead of the new version. I also kind of love the original intro of the confrontation more, the way the scene starts feels more natural this way.
This scene is also very well done in the Manila version:
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 21, 2016 18:30:43 GMT
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Post by Dave25 on Apr 21, 2016 21:28:25 GMT
Ok thanks, yes, I see the sets are different too.
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Post by groupbooker on May 3, 2016 21:44:16 GMT
Anyone heard of tour dates yet?
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Post by daniel on May 3, 2016 23:44:55 GMT
Anyone heard of tour dates yet? No tour dates have been officially confirmed yet as far as I'm aware, however I believe both Dublin and Birmingham have published "coming to this theatre in 2017"-type adverts in their current brochures.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 6:49:41 GMT
Anyone heard of tour dates yet? No tour dates have been officially confirmed yet as far as I'm aware, however I believe both Dublin and Birmingham have published "coming to this theatre in 2017"-type adverts in their current brochures. Yeah I would've thought it be the big theatres that it goes to, and stays there for a month or so
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Post by raiseitup on May 5, 2016 19:09:54 GMT
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Post by HereForTheatre on May 5, 2016 19:41:47 GMT
He'd be great.
Why couldn't we have had him as our Chris though!
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Post by Dave25 on May 6, 2016 1:40:53 GMT
He'd be a great movie Chris. I truly hope they go all the way with glorious singing and acting in this film.
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Post by theatre-turtle on May 7, 2016 9:00:03 GMT
From 00:45. He sounds amazing.
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Post by HereForTheatre on May 7, 2016 9:13:29 GMT
I want to see him in something. I've been a fan since I first saw him.on Smash. Amazing voice and would make a great Chris.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 9:15:18 GMT
From 00:45. He sounds amazing.
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Post by Dave25 on May 7, 2016 11:31:03 GMT
I actually have a physical reaction when he sings that song.
Going all the way with the material really is something special. Fully embracing it. Real acting, real singing, real emotion. The scenes in Miss Saigon can be described as little concerts full of emotion.
There is not 1 instance where I feel he is struggling with notes, in fact, he uses them/turns them into a form of natural acting that feels extremely truthful and emotional. Like god is actually near him in certain notes.
This is what real singers can achieve.
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Post by mrpianoman on May 10, 2016 17:21:24 GMT
Any news on the tour for this? They must be announcing it soon if being advertised in Dublin and Birmingham. I hope Tanya will be playing Kim.
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