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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 2, 2018 16:48:56 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 2, 2018 17:02:09 GMT
“This much loved musical”... so why doesn’t it get revived?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 2, 2018 17:04:38 GMT
The truth is that in performance , it is so dated and dull.
BUT it does have some wonderful songs in it.
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Post by dontdreamit on Aug 2, 2018 17:04:50 GMT
“This much loved musical”... so why doesn’t it get revived? Whenever someone talks about Camelot, I always think to myself that I saw this in a v short run a few years ago. Then I realise that was back in 1996!
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Post by Jon on Aug 2, 2018 17:08:40 GMT
I wonder if a new book would be sort some of the issues although whether the Lerner and Loewe estate would approve any changes is another matter entirely
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 2, 2018 17:12:04 GMT
The truth is that in performance , it is so dated and dull. BUT it does have some wonderful songs in it. Perfect for a concert then, it would seem.
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Post by ali973 on Aug 2, 2018 17:33:08 GMT
So random. And so boring.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Aug 2, 2018 18:07:32 GMT
I see it is to have “an all star cast”. Has Guys and Dolls all star cast been cast yet ?
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Post by showtoones on Aug 2, 2018 18:26:35 GMT
The show is beyond boring. I saw it with Robert Goulet years ago, and it isn't exciting. Better to do a concert of Spamalot if they want a story about the Knights of the Round Table LOL
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 18:58:14 GMT
Maybe they could get Robert Lynsey as Arthur after the rumoured production with him and CZJ years ago never materialised
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Post by musicalmarge on Aug 2, 2018 19:29:17 GMT
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
This belongs with shows like The Dancing Years..........
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Post by danb on Aug 2, 2018 22:29:15 GMT
“This much loved musical”... so why doesn’t it get revived? Whenever someone talks about Camelot, I always think to myself that I saw this in a v short run a few years ago. Then I realise that was back in 1996! Was it the thing in Covent Garden? Sam Janus & Jason Donovan? It was pretty dull wasn’t it?
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Post by Stephen on Aug 2, 2018 23:21:02 GMT
It's funny because I know nothing about the show but I've always LOVED the title song. Looking forward to seeing it at the Pally!
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Post by dontdreamit on Aug 3, 2018 7:10:59 GMT
Whenever someone talks about Camelot, I always think to myself that I saw this in a v short run a few years ago. Then I realise that was back in 1996! Was it the thing in Covent Garden? Sam Janus & Jason Donovan? It was pretty dull wasn’t it? That was the one- from memory it was on for four performances at the FreeMasons Hall. It also had Paul Nicholas in as I think King Arthur.
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Post by danb on Aug 3, 2018 8:35:13 GMT
Was it the thing in Covent Garden? Sam Janus & Jason Donovan? It was pretty dull wasn’t it? That was the one- from memory it was on for four performances at the FreeMasons Hall. It also had Paul Nicholas in as I think King Arthur. That’s the one. I seem to remember it having someone from the original W/E cast in it too...I want to say Robert Meadmore but I’m on holiday so don’t have the programme to hand. Either way it seemed to go on for hours!
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Post by dontdreamit on Aug 3, 2018 9:31:09 GMT
That was the one- from memory it was on for four performances at the FreeMasons Hall. It also had Paul Nicholas in as I think King Arthur. That’s the one. I seem to remember it having someone from the original W/E cast in it too...I want to say Robert Meadmore but I’m on holiday so don’t have the programme to hand. Either way it seemed to go on for hours! I may have the programme up in the loft somewhere...
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Aug 3, 2018 10:41:18 GMT
With a great leading man it works really well. It’s a strong score that is up there with other Lerner and Loewe scores, has a good book (but overlong, there need to be cuts) and a great message for today’s world, that might does not equal right. If he can sing, someone like David Tennant would be good.
It was, of course, seen as the artistic reflection of the presidency of JFK; in an era where the presidency is being used as a mafia-like kleptocracy it is a reminder of how much it has fallen.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Aug 3, 2018 10:44:51 GMT
Maybe they could get Robert Lynsey as Arthur after the rumoured production with him and CZJ years ago never materialised Too old, it needs to be someone middle aged (yet reads youthful). Otherwise the earlier parts don’t work at all. The person who said they’d seen Robert Goulet in it as Arthur, saw precisely the wrong way of casting it!
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Post by Oleanna on Aug 3, 2018 12:39:12 GMT
Michael Sheen as Arthur please.
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Post by Jon on Aug 3, 2018 12:42:41 GMT
If he can sing maybe Damian Lewis as Arthur?
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Post by Someone in a tree on Aug 3, 2018 12:49:36 GMT
Damian Lewis can sing. He was great as Cinderella’s Prince in the Donmar’s Into the Woods
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Post by frankubelik on Aug 3, 2018 13:04:39 GMT
Paul Nicholas, Samantha Janus, Jason Donovan in 1996 (not great casting) with Robert Meadmore & Valerie Cutko (as Nimue). This could still work if not updated and cast properly. There was an awful version in Regent's Park 2004 which set the cause back a few years. It's a great score and a very emotional piece done properly.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 3, 2018 14:14:54 GMT
Camelot is, and can never be, a rollicking, swash-buckling Arthurian romp. It is an intimate love story played out against the background of the mythology.
It needs a very sensitive production to make it come alive. Overdo the pageantry and it becomes too much of a son-et-lumiere type piece of faux nostalgia. Try to force it into being something epic and you just don't have the material to work with so will fail.
Forget the awful, awful film. Work with the music and the central love triangle and it will sing.
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Post by joem on Sept 10, 2018 22:09:55 GMT
It's one of my favourite musicals, although I came to it from my love of all things Arthurian.
I don't think the film was awful. Richard Harris was the best Arthur I've seen in Camelot; Vanessa Redgrave made up for her by giving a sexiness to the role which the other Guineveres I've seen or heard come nowhere near matching - too much trilling, not enough attack. You need either singers who can act very well or actors who can hold a tune. This is not an opera, vocal talent alone isn't enough.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Sept 18, 2018 11:59:30 GMT
The role of Arthur will be played by Olivier Award-winner David Thaxton (Passion, Les Misérables, Jesus Christ Superstar), Guenevere will be played by Savannah Stevenson (Wicked, Aspects of Love, Follies), and Lancelot will be played by internationally renowned opera star Charles Rice (Mozart’s Requiem, The Barber of Seville, Candide).
Sam Swann (Jekyll & Hyde) will play Mordred, Clive Carter (Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again) will play both roles of Pellinore and Merlyn, Nimue will be played by Celinde Schoenmaker (Barnum, The Phantom of the Opera), Matthew McKenna (Sunset Boulevard, Starlight Express) will play Sir Dinadan, Sir Lionel will be played by Emmanuel Kojo (Girl From the North Country, Show Boat), Sir Sagramore will be played by Oliver Savile (Wicked, LMTO’s State Fair) and Raphael Higgins-Humes (Lion King, Matilda The Musical) will play Tom of Warwick. The LMTO Chorus includes: Jake Byrom, Elissa Churchill, Charlotte Clitherow, Ed Court, Emma Fraser, Lee van Geelen, Erin Hair, Daniel Hall, Adam Hepworth, Matthew McDonald, Emma Oliver, Cameron Potts, Lydia Shaw, Rosie Williamson, Lizzie Wofford and Thomas Wright. The London Musical Theatre Orchestra is conducted by founder Freddie Tapner, who said: “I’m extraordinarily excited to have this sensational cast join LMTO at the London Palladium for Camelot, led by Olivier Award-winner David Thaxton and Savannah Stevenson. I’m particularly thrilled to introduce opera star, Charles Rice, to musical theatre fans – I know you’ll fall in love with his voice, just as we did at LMTO HQ when we found him. Camelot hasn’t been seen in the West End for 30 years, and we can’t wait to share this glorious score with you on Saturday 6th October.”
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 18, 2018 12:29:36 GMT
Looks like a strong line up
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Post by learfan on Sept 18, 2018 16:35:29 GMT
Really? Was enough to put me off and wait for a full revival.
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Post by Dawnstar on Sept 18, 2018 17:46:56 GMT
I fell that describling Charles Rice as an "internationally renowned opera star" is pushing it more than a bit. If he was one I would have expected to be familiar with his name, but it didn't ring any bells. Having looked him up I see that I did in fact see him in the ROH's last Les Contes D'Hoffmann revival in 2016, where he played Hermann, a character who gets, if I recall correctly, a handful of lines in the prologue. Surely an "internationally renowned opera star" would be more, for instance, Vittorio Grigolo, who played the title role in the same production.
ETA To forestall any comments, I'm not criticising Charles Rice for not being a big star, I'm criticising whoever's doing the publicity for their hyperbole.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 18, 2018 18:35:37 GMT
Really? Was enough to put me off and wait for a full revival. I prefer solid, proven names to stars who can't do the numbers justice.
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Post by bodobear on Sept 19, 2018 15:13:25 GMT
I’ve never been to the Palladium (shame on me I know) but would like to book for this. Inclined to book one of the “cheaper” front side stall seats. Seatplan reviews say stage is quite high so are they really worth the £45 or would I be better off further back? I usually prefer being close to the stage but I’m short so I’m torn... so anyone who’s sat in one of these seats - what are your thought? Help a poor student out
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