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Post by NeilVHughes on Nov 2, 2019 21:22:58 GMT
Agree, the toilets in the Old Vic this afternoon seemed as chaotic as ever.
The people queuing clogged up the whole space and the central table made moving around difficult.
Not sure that it was any busier than any other visit but getting around seemed much more of a chore. people using the box office against the natural flow as they left to go to the circles didn’t help.
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Post by foxa on Nov 2, 2019 22:08:38 GMT
It would difficult to argue that the Old Vic has solved the problem. Husband complained that even the men's toilet was crammed after the show and one man was complaining that he was told on exiting the Dress Circle that he had to go outside and then come back in if he wanted to use the toilet. He did as told but muttered 'I hate this theatre.'
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Post by peggs on Nov 3, 2019 16:45:34 GMT
Well I've said what I thought in my feedback survey, it was quite cathartic at least.
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Post by peggs on Nov 4, 2019 20:10:49 GMT
Sadly no pun intended, anything funny sadly accidental.
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Post by TallPaul on Nov 5, 2019 12:45:20 GMT
people looking confused and peevedPun intended, peggs? The people queuing clogged up the whole space and the central table made moving around difficult. Fork out £10 for a glass of wine, and you get to "enjoy" it with a desperate queue milling all around you. If wine is your thing, probably best to stick to red then! "That's funny, I don't remember my glass being quite so full." 🍷
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Post by Xanderl on Nov 14, 2019 9:22:20 GMT
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Post by crowblack on Nov 21, 2019 16:50:42 GMT
Labour manifesto promising to uphold women's sex-based rights, which is rather vague but being interpreted online as including the provision of safe spaces like single sex toilets, changing rooms and hospital wards.
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Post by crowblack on Dec 4, 2019 13:02:28 GMT
First time at the Young Vic in a while, and in the upstairs 'cubicles only' toilet at a fairly quiet time (half an hour before the show, not the interval rush) there were two men (straight-looking) in there but no women, and they haven't made any structural alterations to the cubicles - they still have gaps above and below on the doors AND the sides between cubicles. A friend said "are we going to have to start going in in pairs?"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 15:57:56 GMT
I wonder who is the "Best Leave it a few minutes" person on I'm A Celeb.
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Post by lynette on Dec 4, 2019 19:07:10 GMT
First time at the Young Vic in a while, and in the upstairs 'cubicles only' toilet at a fairly quiet time (half an hour before the show, not the interval rush) there were two men (straight-looking) in there but no women, and they haven't made any structural alterations to the cubicles - they still have gaps above and below on the doors AND the sides between cubicles. A friend said "are we going to have to start going in in pairs?" Uuuughhhhgggg
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Post by The Matthew on Dec 4, 2019 20:20:43 GMT
they still have gaps above and below on the doors AND the sides between cubicles It baffles me that they do this. I can understand the need for small gaps — in a humid and potentially dirty environment you want to keep the number of corners to a minimum — but there's no need for the gaps to be any larger than is necessary to take the edge of a mop. Given that people do look over the top (it's happened to me) and do steal things by reaching under doors, why would you ever design a toilet that didn't take account of that? (More generally, I'm amazed how often I see things that seem to be designed on the basis that everyone will do exactly as they're supposed to and nobody will ever do the wrong thing either accidentally or deliberately.)
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Post by lynette on Dec 5, 2019 17:36:31 GMT
they still have gaps above and below on the doors AND the sides between cubicles It baffles me that they do this. I can understand the need for small gaps — in a humid and potentially dirty environment you want to keep the number of corners to a minimum — but there's no need for the gaps to be any larger than is necessary to take the edge of a mop. Given that people do look over the top (it's happened to me) and do steal things by reaching under doors, why would you ever design a toilet that didn't take account of that? (More generally, I'm amazed how often I see things that seem to be designed on the basis that everyone will do exactly as they're supposed to and nobody will ever do the wrong thing either accidentally or deliberately.) V annoying when there isn't a hook to hang your bag on. If there is a gap beneath the door you have to keep the bag away from the edge. And who wants to put her new Michael Kors on a toilet floor? On the other hand I do feel somewhat claustrophobic when the cubicle is totally enclosed. Maybe a redesign of toilet doors needed so that if a person is ill, then the door can be removed without too much difficulty. And make the locks foolproof so they don't stick.
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Post by crowblack on Dec 5, 2019 18:35:17 GMT
I think another reason for the larger gap is to allow them to get under it to open the door / drag a body out if someone is trapped. I think partly for air circulation and mops and to check no-one's dead (our local supermarket has blue light to make it harder to shoot up in them), but possibly also to check people weren't up to stuff in the prosecution-for-cottaging era.
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Post by peggs on Dec 5, 2019 20:45:58 GMT
I always used to prefer toilets with a bit of a gap so that I could imagine that if I got stuck I would be able to climb out (though pretty sure paper dispenser would support my weight for long!). Today I found myself assessing a cubicle for any gaps that untoward things could happen through.
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Post by foxa on Dec 8, 2019 22:27:35 GMT
Still long queues of women at the Old Vic. I'm sure they tried to address the issue, but it looked about as congested as ever. There was a long queue for the cubicles only loos and a shorter one for the specifically gender neutral loo and no queue for the urinals plus cubicles one. Perhaps the listed building status just made it impossible to really fix the problem.
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Post by lynette on Dec 8, 2019 22:57:00 GMT
So punters have decided that the loo which is cubicles but with urinals is in fact the men’s. How amusingly predictable.
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Post by edi on Dec 9, 2019 8:23:20 GMT
So punters have decided that the loo which is cubicles but with urinals is in fact the men’s. How amusingly predictable. And the cubicles only was used by men too last week. It made my toilet visit a very stressful one, me constantly checking the gaps above and below whilst trying to do my business. A man next to my cubicle was moaning so loud - never experienced it with ladies
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Post by The Matthew on Dec 9, 2019 8:38:25 GMT
So punters have decided that the loo which is cubicles but with urinals is in fact the men’s. How amusingly predictable. It reminds me of the issue with town planning and desire lines, where someone lays out artistically-designed footpaths and lawns and within days the lawns have worn-away paths from people taking the straight route rather than the artistic one. Give people a choice and they will go where they want to go, not where the plan says they ought to want to go.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 11, 2020 22:59:02 GMT
Just leaving this here, as a very rare exception to the rule!
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Post by lynette on Jan 13, 2020 20:45:16 GMT
Wow, amazing! Where are the gals? At the bar?
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 13, 2020 21:33:56 GMT
I didn't go into the bar so can't comment on that. Maybe everyone was queuing for the loos nearest the stalls, whereas I went out to the ones on the landing between the stalls & dress circle levels. The Coliseum is in general one of the better WE theatres for loos but that's the first time I've been the only person in there, as far as I can recall, and the theatre was almost full so it wasn't due to a lack of audience.
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Post by d'James on Aug 24, 2021 0:42:37 GMT
Just gonna resurrect my own thread, because I’m that guy ;-)
I’m talking pre-pandemic now, but do rules about providing toilets apply for theatre bars, like restaurants? Do they have to provide a toilet within whatever radius, if they sell you a drink/snack?
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Post by cavocado on Aug 24, 2021 18:56:58 GMT
Yes, anywhere with a drinks licence has to provide toilets in the building (not necessarily close to the bar).
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 24, 2021 21:08:40 GMT
So out of interest does a restaurant have to have a toilet? If it doesn't serve alcohol?
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Post by cavocado on Aug 25, 2021 11:32:42 GMT
Yes, except for takeaways with 10 or fewer seats, or restaurants inside public buildings that have toilets available the whole time the restaurant is open, like shopping centres.
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