Homophobic attack in Colorado

Thankfully the shooter was over powered by people in the club and is in custody.

Reports suggest the shooter had previously made bomb threats against his own mother, but was not prosecuted and did not have his guns removed when no explosives were found.

Unbelievable.

Given that the "right to bear arms" is enshrined in our Constitution, it is unlikely to ever be removed or interpreted significantly differently than it historically has been.

Many in America realize its shortcoming and try to enact legislation that meets Constitutional muster at local, state, and federal levels, but it is very difficult to do so.

And at this point, millions of citizens have millions of guns, a condition that it is difficult to imagine changing even if the Constitution or gun laws would.

oxfordsimon, this American (and many other Americans) completely agrees with your interpretation of the Second Amendment. Unfortunately, our Supreme Court doesn’t agree. In a 2008 decision called District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court, by a 5-4 vote, held (in a majority opinion written by the late, unlamented Antonin Scalia), “The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.”

A dissenting opinion written by Justice Stevens, on behalf of himself and the three other dissenting Justices, took what you and I agree is the best interpretation of the Second Amendment and said, “the Amendment is most naturally read to secure to the people a right to use and possess arms in conjunction with service in a well-regulated militia.” But the dissenting Justices were outvoted, 5-4, so the Scalia opinion is now the law of the land (and is unlikely to change any time soon, in view of the fact that Trump appointed three Justices to the Supreme Court since then).

I can assure you that many Americans have “grown up” (as you put it), and regularly write to our members of Congress and sign petitions urging the enactment of sensible gun control laws. But as long as so many of our elected representatives remain in thrall to the gun lobby, and as long as the conservative majority on the Supreme Court lasts, I despair of that happening.

This turd is now claiming to be non-binary with they/them pronouns...gurl...

Half true, but c'mon a lot of people still vote for them and a lot of them vote for them because they will protect their right to bear arms. 

Apparently the killer's homophobic, former WWA fighter, former pornstar, Mormon, right wing conservative republican father was horrified that his estranged offspring might be gay by even being in a gay bar, but voiced his relief that they were just shooting at them! He'd never heard of them being non-binary, but somehow I don't think they're that close as a family! (You couldn't make it up! )

Well yes but Colorado has self-ID laws I think. 

He may or may not really be non-binary.

But as being ‘non-binary’ is something that only the individual can determine, and cannot be objectively determined (and doesn’t my even have a clear definition) if you legislate for Self-ID no-one can officially gainsay anyone who claims it.

Feminists who point out that this is easily exploitable by bad people usually get called transphobic.

But the point of the self ID laws is that you have no right to question his assertion - they literally say that only he can decide so there's no question about it, he's  non-binary because he says he is.  

I don't think it's a mere coincidence.

www.them.us/story/club-q-suspect-nonbinary-anderson-lee-aldrich

At the end of the day it does not matter what the motive is, he killed 5 people and injured 20 and would've killed a hell of a lot more if he was not almost instantly stopped the minute he entered the club.

I'm sure his plan was to kill as many people as possible before the police gunned him down and he became a poster boy for the far right.

If he'd been killed we'd know the full story by now. Now we will have to wait until the inevitable nation wide televised trial in 2 year time.

Sadly even if some gun legislation were to come in, i think the genie is so far out of the bottle now i fear its too late. It will take lifetimes before any meaningful difference is seen, if ever. There are so many guns out there now, plus it would likely go underground if restrictions were brought in making it even harder to trace them.

It has already been heavily debunked that the shooter is non-binary as there is ZERO evidence in internet searches or social media proving it. ZERO.

And yes, some people DO keep voting for those. But Democrats aren't those people and we're sadly trapped by the gerrymandering. I'm gay, but I'm a one-issue voter. I'd trade my right to marry to get these guns banned in a heartbeat.

But there doesn’t have to be. People are allowed to come out in their own sweet time - that’s the rule, isn’t it?

There was no ‘evidence’ of Sam Smith being non-binary before they came out, either.

Look, I don’t make these rules - I just find it hypocritical when people who would make a huge fuss if I didn’t follow them decide to make convenient exceptions.