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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 8, 2021 20:30:12 GMT
Who is spouting bile? I’ve just seen people offering personal and valued opinions on the show or the music. But not commenting on other people’s more positive personal opinions. Who is being negative about it on a daily basis? I’ve seen an equal mix of people talking about it positively and negatively on a regular basis. Who is desperate to see it fail? It’s quite possible for people to offer honest opinions on a show without thinking maliciously about its future, or lack of. I’ve just read a sentence above about wishing bad thoughts and karma on people for expressing honest opinions on a show. Whether it’s agreed with or not, that’s not an acceptable comment to make about other people, particularly as that hadn’t been reflected back. Bad form. It's my view, and it's entirely your prerogative to differ. I've not wished "bad thoughts and karma". I've actually wished them love and positivity, as a means to fill the potential void that bitterness and vitriol currently seems to occupy. Sorry ceebee. You’ve made it even worse. Very bad form to think that others on the board are offering ‘bitterness and vitriol’ because people don’t agree with your opinion. This is an open space to share a variety of opinions, not attack or cast aspersions about people and their genuinely held opinions. What a shame it sank to personal attacks instead.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 8, 2021 20:12:18 GMT
For all those spouting bile about this show, there are more who seem to love it judging by the scores in the poll. The difference is, those who love it don't profess to do so on a daily basis. Some folk seem to revel in wanting to pour cold puke over this show, desperate to see it fail. I hope those who dislike it so much might find something more positive in their lives that they might grow to love and share their views about, instead of peeing on others' bonfires by continually trashing a show that is nowhere near as bad as some like to make out. Who is spouting bile? I’ve just seen people offering personal and valued opinions on the show or the music. But not commenting on other people’s more positive personal opinions. Who is being negative about it on a daily basis? I’ve seen an equal mix of people talking about it positively and negatively on a regular basis. Who is desperate to see it fail? It’s quite possible for people to offer honest opinions on a show without thinking maliciously about its future, or lack of. I’ve just read a sentence above about wishing bad thoughts and karma on people for expressing honest opinions on a show. Whether it’s agreed with or not, that’s not an acceptable comment to make about other people, particularly as that hadn’t been reflected back. Bad form.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 8, 2021 19:38:57 GMT
Please don’t see it live then. It’s even more inexplicably bad on stage. Don’t even start me on the completely unnecessary swearing in an attempt to be cool/interesting. It’s a fantasy world. If they needed to add swearing (and they absolutely didn’t) then they could have replaced the same words with alternative words or funny phrases - which actually might have been cool/interesting. I am even more angered and disappointed by the show 4 days later! Already booked OK that’s fine. Go and see it and form your own opinions on the live in situ experience. You might end up loving it when you see it live. Opinions are completely subjective
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 8, 2021 19:13:35 GMT
So far… it’s got worse It really is utter crap. This is what he’s been working on for years?! He never used to write tuneless rubbish like this. The lyrics are vile and totally inappropriate for any kids seeing this. Please don’t see it live then. It’s even more inexplicably bad on stage. Don’t even start me on the completely unnecessary swearing in an attempt to be cool/interesting. It’s a fantasy world. If they needed to add swearing (and they absolutely didn’t) then they could have replaced the same words with alternative words or funny phrases - which actually might have been cool/interesting. I am even more angered and disappointed by the show 4 days later!
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 6, 2021 15:12:34 GMT
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 5, 2021 22:11:03 GMT
Bar 2 or 3 songs, I would rather pickle my ears than listen to that album
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 5, 2021 15:17:32 GMT
No not at all. He went off to kill a dragon and never returned, presumed dead. He comes back to save his brother from an unwanted marriage.
So either someone knew where he was and could be contacted, or news of the wedding reached where he was?
If it was addressed I apologise - honestly I was distracted by PC. For someone who all the men looked up to as their idol, he wasn't nearly as ripped as the other men on the stage. Yes i'm shallow to notice and consider such things, but when the show hits you over the head with how perfect everyone else in Belleville etc, it's hard not to notice. Oh, and that long blonde wig on his partner didn't help. It was very 'Fabio' the guy who was on the romance book covers
Completely agree. At first I felt bad for thinking it, but then I reckoned that most people were thinking the same. Not just physically I guess, but he seemed to lack the requisite charisma that should have come with the perfect prince they were describing. I had to check afterwards that it wasn't the understudy in case things had moved around. But this is one of just many many things that were bugbears for me about the production. Even a day after, I think it's a 2/5 show. Critics will probably give it 3s and 4s. Maybe.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 4, 2021 18:07:32 GMT
Second half probably worse than the first imo. Understudy for Sebastian and VHB’s Audrey Thatcher impression were maybe the ‘best bits’ Will write in more detail another time
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 4, 2021 18:05:49 GMT
Second half probably worse than the first imo. Will write in more detail another time
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 4, 2021 15:57:06 GMT
Choreographer came on at the beginning to explain that Ivan had suffered a minor injury so all the cast came in early to run the show with the understudy who only had 90 mins rehearsal. He seemed to nail it in first half. In interval now. I had a feeling it might not be great but I didn’t expect it to be as bad and cringey as this
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 4, 2021 14:19:11 GMT
A different Sebastian on today (Michael Hamway) but otherwise the cast looks the same.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 4, 2021 14:00:02 GMT
3pm. Queue snakes around 3 sides of building. Technical difficulties according to usher. Aiming to get people in as soon as possible. Could be a while.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 3, 2021 10:12:56 GMT
Oh yes it is!!! Let’s keep it going until somebody interjects
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jul 1, 2021 20:41:59 GMT
Got to say, this was brilliant tonight. So good to be at a lively musical which leaves you in an uplifted mood at the end. I think they've upscaled this a bit. Bigger screen in the background and action towards the front of the stage. The original cast were all on form (but not all with their original hair colours - there again, the audience had quite varied hair colours as well). I was say just behind the Squip Zone, in what must be the prime seats for the view and angle. The Squip Zone seats are looking up. The Squip Zone gift is a small exclusive poster, plus the ushers talk to you about your favourite show moments for a while. Most of the Squip Zone seats were taken by regulars (or their family members). The highlight, as usual, was Blake Patrick Anderson, who was on form. Scott Folan has been really working out and building up his abs too! And so many of the cast got to make their West End debuts tonight. They got a well-deserved full house standing ovation at the end. Celebrity spotting, I saw Nicholas McLean in the audience and I'm sure one of the ushers was in the 2018 Palladium Panto. Anyway, go watch this! It has transferred really well to the larger theatre. I'll be back to see it again. Who on earth is Nicholas McLean?! Ya know. Nicholas. Nick. McLeany. McLeanooooo www.nicholasmclean.co.uk/
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 30, 2021 16:16:56 GMT
She might not be on for the Sunday matinee I guess then? Unless she is on early enough to get away? She will have done 2 performances on the Saturday and potentially an early start on the Sunday so it might be a rest day off for her. Or she might not even be in the studio. She may Skype in from the theatre True, anthony40. Very true. We shall see
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 30, 2021 15:53:58 GMT
With the exception of Marys Seacole (and with reservations about the audience-directed poetry) it sounds pretty boring and unoriginal. The Broadway production of Marys Seacole is currently available for free via BroadwayonDemand - it's pretty hard going and very pretentious in places. Reckon those who liked/enjoyed Fairview might enjoy it - but not many others
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 30, 2021 13:37:45 GMT
Don't know if someone has posted the already bu Carrie Hope Fletcher is scheduled to ne on Sunday brunch this weekend She might not be on for the Sunday matinee I guess then? Unless she is on early enough to get away? She will have done 2 performances on the Saturday and potentially an early start on the Sunday so it might be a rest day off for her.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 28, 2021 20:35:41 GMT
Ought to be prepared to back it up? People shouldn’t feel compelled to do anything of the sort if they don’t feel like they are happy to just give a score (which is what is asked for when it says ‘After seeing the show please give it a star rating’). I guess I object to people being labelled trolls or skewing results when it doesn’t tally with other people’s thoughts. You're at liberty to object to anything that anybody says, such is the beauty of free-speech. And yes, people should be prepared to back up scores that are on the outer margins, because there might be some brilliant insights that others can learn from the observations of others. Sticking a 1 or a 5 in the mix when there is no feedback of review to justify such a score leaves people wondering what was so great or so bad about the show to warrant it. Of course, people can just tick a box and have done, but with 120+ pages of commentary, it would be good now the show is actually here if people might be willing to justify a polar view. “Such is the beauty of free speech” to leave scores without comments and hopefully feel like they are happy with that level of engagement with Theatreboard then eh?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 28, 2021 20:19:05 GMT
I'd have thought that if you rated it 1 star or 5 stars you would want to shout from the rafters about how awful it was or how wonderful it was. Look at TripAdvisor reviews they tend to either love or hate a hotel. You seldom see people put pen to paper for a 3 star review. But equally it could be conceded that hundreds or thousands of people on Tripadvisor give 1 or 5 star scores without giving detailed reviews and they are not maliciously wishing to skew results but feel like it accurately reflects their opinions without needing to say more.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 28, 2021 20:15:02 GMT
Well it helps to understand your take on it. But it IS possible for people to offer scores without having to write reviews about it or offer justifications. Many people lurk on the forum or may not feel confident to write copious notes. I’m sure it’s not against any law? I agree, I'm pretty sure it's not against any law too. But on a chat forum if you're gonna have the time to give a score, you ought to be prepared to back it up. Many would love to know what makes the show so compelling or so dire. Otherwise, any old lurker or troll could skew the scores just for fun under a veil of anonymity, which I'm sure would never happen because everybody seems so rational and open to discussion on here. Ought to be prepared to back it up? People shouldn’t feel compelled to do anything of the sort if they don’t feel like they are happy to just give a score (which is what is asked for when it says ‘After seeing the show please give it a star rating’). I guess I object to people being labelled trolls or skewing results when it doesn’t tally with other people’s thoughts.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 28, 2021 20:11:17 GMT
It just feels a bit ‘Trip Advisor’ without a review is all… But you can offer a score and a review OR a score without a review, no?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 28, 2021 20:06:17 GMT
Why is it not possible for some people to think it’s 1 star and other people to rate it as 5 stars, without people thinking it’s being skewed or there is some ulterior motive for some reason? Cos nobody has offered a review or feedback so far to justify either score. Or perhaps they feel those scores are valid, in which case (as it is a chat forum) it would be great if they could articulate why it is so good or so bad. Hope that helps. Well it helps to understand your take on it. But it IS possible for people to offer scores without having to write reviews about it or offer justifications. Many people lurk on the forum or may not feel confident to write copious notes. I’m sure it’s not against any law?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 28, 2021 19:42:06 GMT
Why is it not possible for some people to think it’s 1 star and other people to rate it as 5 stars, without people thinking it’s being skewed or there is some ulterior motive for some reason?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 25, 2021 19:34:58 GMT
Could the title of this thread be changed to ‘The Browning Version at Riverstide Studios’?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Jun 24, 2021 22:35:29 GMT
So what’s the sitch now? Are they ‘selling out’ the socially distanced performances? I think it’s more that the ones that people are not taking up are being re-sold. Still socially distanced seating.
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