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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 8, 2021 16:17:04 GMT
Covid killed Mean Girls on Broadway and it did the same for Boy in a Dress in the West End, as others have said the West End transfer to the Savoy was cancelled due to the pandemic However what I could see happening is that it might transfer at the end of the year to the Barbican, as the RST has no season to put into the Barbican this year and the RST are the producers of The Boy in the Dress.
Also you have to consider the bread and butter for musicals are tourists, this is going to recover very slowly, especially as tourists will now need a negative test.
When I saw The Boy in the Dress at Stratford, it needed a lot of work for the book and score, it is so hazy for me seeing it, that’s not a good sign.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 8, 2021 1:21:15 GMT
I saw twice in New York, and it is an insanely enjoyable show, with a great book by Tina Frey.
Sonia Friedman being a key producer on this it certainly will come over.
I could see the show doing well in the West End, but doing better on their and going out several times, just like Legally Blonde did.
However when theatre does reopen and producers not going to rush to get show in dark theatres initially more concentrating on getting their current shows up and running. However I could see this sliding neatly into the Savoy, if Dirty Dancing doesn’t move there first.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 7, 2021 23:39:36 GMT
And i would happily pay to see her do it, over nearly every single name mentioned so far. Martine would actually be brilliant, to be fair. Ha, she would be good in the role, but if you want to see he, make sure you buy several tickets, over several performances. Not sure if Cameron Mackintosh would want to work with her again after My Fair ‘indisposed’ Lady. But saying that Martine hasn’t rush back to be on stage again, think she done a arena tour of Elf. So if appearing on stage caused problems, with poor mental health, then that is very sad.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 7, 2021 20:37:18 GMT
latest theatre review
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 7, 2021 16:30:17 GMT
Yeap Martine McCutcheon.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 7, 2021 16:28:13 GMT
with the Redcoats
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 7, 2021 14:36:02 GMT
epidemiologist Neil Ferguson
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 7, 2021 13:21:36 GMT
the child catcher
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 6, 2021 20:41:14 GMT
You really wouldn’t stand outside your front door and clap our police force.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 6, 2021 15:52:21 GMT
If we must have a revival of Oliver. I would think Fagin would be interestingly done by someone from the BAME community. Only thinking this after seeing Paterson Joseph play Scrooge at the Old Vic last year and play it very well, not necessarily saying the role should be played by Paterson, but would be interesting to see someone from the BAME community step up. Maybe someone like Adrian Lester. I agree this could be a good move, or they could cast a man of Jewish descent since the role was originally written as a Jewish man? I can also absolutely see (and would applaud) a BAME Nancy, as well as some blind casting of the kids - the Artful Dodger and the other boys have no limitations on their casting anyway. Actually, casting a child (or children) of colour to play Oliver could add some nice undertones to the story what with his mother being disowned by her (white, upper class) family and him subsequently being welcomed back by them. Ron Moody who played Fagin in the Oscar winning movie was Jewish. I took it for granted that the casting director would not cast BAME actors as children. I took it that was a given. No problems casting Nancy as a BAME actor, it wouldn’t bother me if both were BAME actors. However the role of Fagin is the role, as the role requires excellent acting, as well as singing.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 6, 2021 11:54:32 GMT
If we must have a revival of Oliver. I would think Fagin would be interestingly done by someone from the BAME community. Only thinking this after seeing Paterson Joseph play Scrooge at the Old Vic last year and play it very well, not necessarily saying the role should be played by Paterson, but would be interesting to see someone from the BAME community step up.
Maybe someone like Adrian Lester.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 6, 2021 0:34:36 GMT
Les Mis has just been refreshed and not for the better, likewise Phantom is going through the same progress.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 5, 2021 23:43:13 GMT
This is a silly thread in poor taste. I don’t think it’s silly and I don’t think the topic is in poor taste either. All theatre has a shelf life - it always has and it always will, and pretending otherwise doesn’t do anyone any good either. Yes, the industry has shut down but there are no guarantees any show will return. You can be sure if Chicago, Blood Brothers and Thriller were still running we’d have already had the discussions about whether they would survive the industry closure. To be honest as adults we should be able to discuss the posed questions in a logical and thoughtful way, rather than just dismissing it out of hand. Six of the current west end musicals/plays are in the top ten longest running shows in west end history, so there is merit to the question. Yeap there is a time and place for a conversation and rumours, today is not one of them!
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 5, 2021 23:41:45 GMT
The Lion King is the most popular show in the West End, hardly discounts and plays one of the biggest theatres. No real need to touch the long running shows, as we still get plenty of shows come in along with a host of rubbish shows, that should go in the trash, however quality and quantity is generally not underrepresented in the West End.
Instead talk of closing shows, I would suggest a better route forward is to build 2x medium sized theatres, (1200 - 1500 seats) these are underrepresented in the West End.
However this isn’t a conversation that is necessary today, neither is talk of closing shows, very tasteless in today’s climate.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 5, 2021 1:11:43 GMT
The West End doesn’t need a stuffy revival that has been done a million times, it needs new shows to get the theatre audiences salivating again, such as the New Jersey Boys, which is Ain’t too Proud, Mean Girls or Beetlejuice. It is awesome we have Back to the Future and Moulin Rouge to look forward to, as well as Pretty Women and The Prince of Egypt, which had hardly opened.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 4, 2021 21:17:16 GMT
Also wants the point in putting the economy back in lockdown, when we have a police force that cannot enforce laws such as mask wearing, you go to the supermarket and you see people not wearing masks and staff shelf stacking and on the till not wearing a mask or not properly?
I was in Morrison’s getting petrol, I couldn’t pay at the pump, so went to the cashier who wasn’t wearing a mask, with no glass screen and I being extremely vulnerable, could I have just walked away without paying?
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 4, 2021 21:12:46 GMT
The biggest mistake was opening up again between lockdown 2 and lockdown 3. The Prime Minister done yet another U turn, after being pressurised by his backbench mps, who were mainly from the ERG wing of the party, who were being influenced by the Daily Mail and The Sun, who wanted to get the economy going before Brexit got enacted. Dreadful Mistake.
Can I now still get my cappuccino?
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 4, 2021 17:25:31 GMT
I wonder if they stop top flight football? And close coffee shop again?
Getting my click and collect cappuccino from Caffè Nero is the only thing that is keeping me sane, whilst shielding again.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 4, 2021 17:22:30 GMT
Yea he does, he also owns the Prince Edward Theatre, it will be Cameron Mackintosh production.
Cameron picking a pocket or two.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 4, 2021 15:23:22 GMT
Said this several times on here already.
You do not not need to vaccinate everyone to re-open.
All you need to open is to vaccinate the Elderly, Vulnerable, Carers, medical staff, educators and transport workers.
You can vaccinate the rest whilst the economy is open, obviously Covid is going to spread still with the more able bodied community, but for them the symptoms aren’t going to be so bad.
So with mass vaccination and people who have Had Covid, herd immunity should be achieved reasonable quick.
The ball is now in the Government’s court, quicker they vaccinate, the quicker the economy can reopen and start collect taxes again.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 3, 2021 18:07:05 GMT
I see on the Daily Mail online there are protestors idiots in Nottingham, don’t know why newspapers are giving them the oxygen of publicity. That these vaccines are in fact ‘hydrogen with bio sensors.’ Similar to the idiots protesting outside St Thomas’ Hospital, I wonder how many of them would walk around the Covid wards without a mask and volunteer and do something actually useful.
Now some might say that I am gullible to conspiracy theories, I believe the first moon landing was fake, JFK wasn’t assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, Diana was murdered and I could probably be persuaded that Elvis Presley is working a burger wagon in Louisiana, but I would’ve thought he would move on by now. ButI just cannot get my head around this conspiracy theory, it is completely mad that every country in the world would choose to close their economies, to just plant a chip into people, for me that is a non starter and mad, mad, and mad!!!
I could criticise Prime Minister Johnson, I don’t like him, I would never vote for him. Sure the Government have got things wrong, but they’ve done some things very well. However it is President Trump that has been absolutely appalling and normalised non-mask wearing and protesting, mainly to accommodate his narcissism. Sooner the 19th January comes the better. History will just show a failed one term president.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 2, 2021 23:56:39 GMT
I agree with you
The point I trying to make you can upscale from a small stage to a bigger stage, with good producing, as you pointed out Nativity went big with stat casting, you can also upscale sets and lighting for the West End.
On a side note It is a pet hate when producers use the black curtain surround to save dosh,
As you say they’re playing the Mayflowerto the smaller theatre of the Orchard, by me in Dartford.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 2, 2021 21:41:32 GMT
It's going to be an interesting day on Monday. Lots of teachers saying, quite rightly in my view, they'll boycott schools due to them being unsafe. It dies seem to be the only way the Governmeht will get the message. Add that to the desperate pleas of medical professionals that many hospitals are at breaking point, I predict new measures before long. I have not actually read about a boycott (and neither has my partner, who is a teacher), but I agree with you that it seems to be the only way that the Government will listen. I struggle to see any logic in Johnson’s claim that (and I quote), “Schools are safe! Very safe!” which he made just prior to school openings being delayed. The message being given is that the only way out of this situation is now by vaccination whilst maintaining previous rules of social distancing (now needing to be 2m again, according to scientists’ recommendations), mask wearing and enhanced hygiene measures. Yet, even with a more transmissible variant that is increasing in all age groups (including primary age children), the Government thinks it can still just ‘plough on as normal’ with schools, completely disapplying these rules. This has surely got to be negligent and, possibly, discriminatory (given that the variant is rising outside of London and is estimated to be responsible for 66% of cases in England (outside of London), compared to London’s estimated 75%). How can it be legal for the Government to force school-workers into a work environment that disapplies the rules across society at the moment, whilst having a diminishing NHS infrastructure in many areas outside of London? Is this equality? The specific area in which my partner’s school is situated has a transmission rate of 756 per 100,000. How can being in an enclosed space with 30 households, no PPE and no social distancing be safe? On top of this, Williamson has been firm that teachers will not be prioritised for vaccinations. I’m desperately worried about the constant denial regarding the risks in schools and have grave concerns about how the Government seems to be quite combative regarding the safety of school-workers. Schools are safe, very safe. As long as you don’t catch Covid and it kills you!
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 2, 2021 21:38:13 GMT
It is a dreadful to get to by public transport.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 2, 2021 21:35:31 GMT
I know the show hasn't opened yet, but looking at the tour venues Bedknobs is going to it looks like it could play in a smaller house than the Prince Edward - IF it goes to the West End. Thats surprising I thought a show like this would require a bigger theatre. Nativity the musical went from one of the countries smallish theatres (Birmingham Rep) to one of the largest being the Hammersmith Odeon.
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