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Post by Jon on Dec 5, 2021 0:22:53 GMT
Saw this today and really liked it. Disney have been consistent with their animated films recently and this is on par with Moana and Zootropolis. It's both traditional and also break some conventions as well with a strong message at the end,
The songs which are by Lin Manuel Miranda are good, the highlights for me were Surface Pressure and We Don't Talk About Bruno.
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Post by mkb on Dec 5, 2021 4:56:17 GMT
I don't recognise this at all. It was two-star for me. Weird, unlikeable narrative with dubious ethics, and dreadful music. Disney has really lost its way.
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Post by anthony40 on Dec 5, 2021 10:29:57 GMT
It's on my list to see for this week. (Hopefully) Tuesday night.
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Post by partytentdown on Dec 5, 2021 11:17:33 GMT
I don't recognise this at all. It was two-star for me. Weird, unlikeable narrative with dubious ethics, and dreadful music. Disney has really lost its way. I don't know your background so forgive me, but I wonder if actually Disney hasn't lost its way but is actually trying to tell stories that appeal to different groups of people. So in the eyes of many, seeing a fantasy story packed with South American traditions and references could mean the world to them, but might not be as appealing or recognisable to others who grew up on the very white very Western cartoons they used to make.
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Post by mkb on Dec 5, 2021 13:54:09 GMT
I don't recognise this at all. It was two-star for me. Weird, unlikeable narrative with dubious ethics, and dreadful music. Disney has really lost its way. I don't know your background so forgive me, but I wonder if actually Disney hasn't lost its way but is actually trying to tell stories that appeal to different groups of people. So in the eyes of many, seeing a fantasy story packed with South American traditions and references could mean the world to them, but might not be as appealing or recognisable to others who grew up on the very white very Western cartoons they used to make. Coco did what you're describing brilliantly; Encanto does not.
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Post by partytentdown on Dec 5, 2021 20:00:37 GMT
I don't know your background so forgive me, but I wonder if actually Disney hasn't lost its way but is actually trying to tell stories that appeal to different groups of people. So in the eyes of many, seeing a fantasy story packed with South American traditions and references could mean the world to them, but might not be as appealing or recognisable to others who grew up on the very white very Western cartoons they used to make. Coco did what you're describing brilliantly; Encanto does not. I guess we agree to disagree!
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Post by alicechallice on Dec 6, 2021 13:33:37 GMT
Coco did what you're describing brilliantly; Encanto does not. I guess we agree to disagree! I agree with you (as does my friend Phil), marvellous!
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Post by anthony40 on Dec 8, 2021 18:24:45 GMT
Sitting in a cinema now waiting for it to start
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Post by Mark on Dec 8, 2021 20:05:03 GMT
Just been tonight (saw Spencer followed immediately by this). It’s cute, and I particularly liked the music (I really liked We Don’t talk about Bruno). I actually wished they’d expanded it out a bit more and had a few more numbers - maybe if it ever gets done for the stage, which I think would work quite well. The plot was a bit messy, but overall certainly enjoyable.
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Post by anthony40 on Dec 9, 2021 17:55:13 GMT
Saw this last night and have been thinking about it most of the day.
This actually wasn't too bad and can easily sit along side any other Disney classic.
Is the female lead Mirabel a Disney princess? No, but she has the same determination and fighting spirit as either Merida (Brave) or Ana (Frozen). The film will ne HUGE in Spanish speaking communities. (Possibly) bigger that Coco that cam before it.
If I had to find a major fault it would be that in the first 15 minutes when all of the characters are being set up, there's just too much happening, so you're constantly questioning who is that person again in relation to Mirabel.
With that in mind, it may take a couple of viewings just to take it all in.
Clearly a lot of thought has gone into this (I believe Lin-Manuel Miranda worked on it for 5 years!) and there is lot of colour.
Even though they're animated characters, it's great to see such diversity, with white, brown and black characters, young and old.
Set in Columbia it's also great to see some of its native animals represented on screen- a capybara, a tapir, a jaguar, colourful toucans and several South American coatis
I think the songs are growers. As mentioned by Mark in the post above We Don't Talk About Bruno is great!
There's also one song, like One Day More in Les Miserables, where several characters are singing over each other.
Towards the end of the film there is a beautiful song however it is sung in Spanish.
Kinda makes me wish I could speak Spanish just so I could understand what they're saying.
The whole time I was watching it was thinking I wonder how many years it will be before we see this staged? I know one thing, when it does, it's gonna take a heck of a lot special effects.
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Post by anthony40 on Dec 29, 2021 12:19:35 GMT
Quick question all. Does anybody know the 'song' from Encanto?
For every Disney movie there is the 'song'. That one (or maybe event two) instantly recognisable song(s) that upon listening would straight away make you aware that this is the 'song' from Encanto.
I have listened to most of the soundtrack and Goggle hasn't really helped.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by peggs on Dec 29, 2021 16:03:43 GMT
Watched with the kids which might have helped or hindered my ability to work out who was who at the beginning. Kept me entertained, loved the riot of colour and shapes and sizes of varying people. I too thought could see on stage though yes challenging effects required. The teens sang to it and the smalls danced. Not as good as Coco I thought which was really special but thumbs up all round.
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Post by anthony on Dec 29, 2021 16:24:18 GMT
Haven't watched it, but listened to the album. Musically, it's wonderful.
Surface Pressure is magnificent:
It is very Lin Manuel Miranda, though. Most of the songs wouldn't sound too out of place in Into the Heights or Hamilton.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 29, 2021 17:39:29 GMT
I thought this was wonderful. I often didn’t have a clue what anyone was saying in the songs, but it has a lot of heart and the melodies are catchy. So good to see Disney embracing other cultures finally
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Post by justfran on Dec 29, 2021 18:55:13 GMT
I enjoyed this, not one of the best Disney films but not the worst either. I agree there was a lot of characters to keep track of at the beginning. It looked great, so colourful and “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” is very catchy!
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Post by stuartmcd on Dec 29, 2021 19:59:23 GMT
It’s absurd how good the animation is in this movie. It’s stunning! Really enjoyed watching this the other day. Great characters, songs and story.
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Post by G on Jan 1, 2022 11:16:30 GMT
Watched it with family (in Italian) during the Christmas period while I was there and was not impressed. The plot felt too flimsy (no reason for a film for children to have such a weak plot, as is otherwise clear to Disney).
The Italian dubbing of the songs was not catchy. The original English version of songs posted in this thread is much better. Also for some reason the only character with a strong hispanic accent in the Italian dubbing was Mirabel's mother, which did not make much sense as all other characters spoke with a native Italian accent! That was jarring. The Italian dubbing industry is renowned to be quite good relative to others (Italy also dubs most foreign media which is not great) but in this case it spoiled the film to me.
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Post by Jon on Jan 20, 2022 16:28:21 GMT
We Don't Talk About Bruno has become the top 3 song in the UK, I'm a fan of the song and I did not expect to achieve that!
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Post by Mark on Jan 23, 2022 14:24:50 GMT
And now number one! Even made the news bulletin on BBC.
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