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Post by theatreian on Aug 8, 2021 11:14:59 GMT
A massive well done to the whole GB team coming in with 65 medals, equalling 2012 and at fourth place in the medal table. A credit to the whole country in what has been a difficult year especially for those trying to train.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 8, 2021 14:27:53 GMT
We did well for saying some of our top stars were either injured at the wrong time or didnt perform to expectation.
Good to see Jason Kenny come away with that Gold. I love Laura Kenny as well but you got the impression she was done after her Gold the other day, infact she said that, and you wonder if she didnt mentally really turn up for her last event this morni6n, which I dont know how I feel about.
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Post by The Matthew on Aug 8, 2021 16:18:53 GMT
Anyone else feeling sad now it's over? There were so many things to watch and for the past three days I've been getting up around 02:00 to follow the gymnastics and now all the events have finished and it's ... OK, what do I do now?
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Post by alece10 on Aug 8, 2021 16:38:36 GMT
Have to say I really didn't get into it this time around mainly due to the time difference and also the poor coverage on the BBC but I don't blame them as they did the best they could with what they could show. I disagree with the way Tokyo sold TV rights so that Eurosport got most of the coverage. Also no audience didn't help as there was very little atmosphere, again they did as best as they could.
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Post by The Matthew on Aug 8, 2021 17:06:37 GMT
I disagree with the way Tokyo sold TV rights so that Eurosport got most of the coverage. I bought a one month subscription to Eurosport so I could watch it and it was OK, but I found their website design annoying — it's clearly not designed to work with as many simultaneous events as we've had over the past couple of weeks — and many of their videos had advertisements. I get that they need advertising for their free services but if I'm paying I'd like to have access to an ad-free version. On the other hand they did make some of the extra video services available that the BBC never did.
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 8, 2021 17:24:09 GMT
All in all a great Olympic Games, well done Japan.
One of the great things with the Olympics it forces me to watch sports I wouldn’t ordinarily watch.
I thought it was going to be a disaster, at the beginning I didn’t understand why the Japanese didn’t do a mass vaccine roll out, like we did here and allow people into the venues, but excepted early on there were not going to be spectators and enjoyed it for what it was.
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Post by poster J on Aug 8, 2021 17:41:21 GMT
you wonder if she didnt mentally really turn up for her last event this morni6n, which I dont know how I feel about. I think that's more than a bit unfair given she won two of the four disciplines! As the 2x defending champion she was always going to be picked, but GB could have given Elinor Barker or Katie Archibald the ride instead. Though given she didn't ride the team pursuit final Barker may not have been on top form either.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 8, 2021 18:05:00 GMT
you wonder if she didnt mentally really turn up for her last event this morni6n, which I dont know how I feel about. I think that's more than a bit unfair given she won two of the four disciplines! As the 2x defending champion she was always going to be picked, but GB could have given Elinor Barker or Katie Archibald the ride instead. Though given she didn't ride the team pursuit final Barker may not have been on top form either. She literally said it though, she said she feels like her Olympics is over in the interviews she gave after the Gold and she alluded to feeling like that in her interviews this morning as well. I'm just saying that maybe she wasn't as motivated and focused on the event as she might have been normally. She has natural ability and so that is always going to get her so far even if she wasn't fully committed. I think it would have been a good opportunity to throw someone else in there who maybe felt like they had more to achieve.
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Post by Jon on Aug 8, 2021 18:09:22 GMT
Anyone else feeling sad now it's over? There were so many things to watch and for the past three days I've been getting up around 02:00 to follow the gymnastics and now all the events have finished and it's ... OK, what do I do now? I don't normally follow sport but I got sucked into the Olympics even if it leads to tiredness due to getting up to watch events early in the morning. I am glad the 2024 Games are in Paris so I can view it at a decent time
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Post by kathryn on Aug 8, 2021 19:33:05 GMT
We did well for saying some of our top stars were either injured at the wrong time or didnt perform to expectation. Good to see Jason Kenny come away with that Gold. I love Laura Kenny as well but you got the impression she was done after her Gold the other day, infact she said that, and you wonder if she didnt mentally really turn up for her last event this morni6n, which I dont know how I feel about. I’ve watched her event 3 times today and I’d say the massive crash that her was not her fault in the first race probably had more to do with it than anything that happened the other day. There’s not a lot you can do when the person directly in front of you goes down and takes you out.
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 8, 2021 19:55:53 GMT
That rash was the Italian job. A pretty nasty cash and very surprised everyone got up and was able to carry, however crashes do have consequences.
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 8, 2021 20:30:41 GMT
I bought a one month subscription to Eurosport so I could watch it and it was OK, but I found their website design annoying — it's clearly not designed to work with as many simultaneous events as we've had over the past couple of weeks — and many of their videos had advertisements. I get that they need advertising for their free services but if I'm paying I'd like to have access to an ad-free version. On the other hand they did make some of the extra video services available that the BBC never did. I managed to find ad free versions of everything I watched with no problems. Admittedly occasionally ad free also meant commentary free but mostly it was okay. It might help that I got a Eurosport subscription last autumn & have watched goodness knows how many hours of cycling since. I find www.eurosportplayer.com much easier to use than www.eurosport.co.uk.
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Post by poster J on Aug 8, 2021 20:34:42 GMT
I think that's more than a bit unfair given she won two of the four disciplines! As the 2x defending champion she was always going to be picked, but GB could have given Elinor Barker or Katie Archibald the ride instead. Though given she didn't ride the team pursuit final Barker may not have been on top form either. She literally said it though, she said she feels like her Olympics is over in the interviews she gave after the Gold and she alluded to feeling like that in her interviews this morning as well. I'm just saying that maybe she wasn't as motivated and focused on the event as she might have been normally. She has natural ability and so that is always going to get her so far even if she wasn't fully committed. I think it would have been a good opportunity to throw someone else in there who maybe felt like they had more to achieve. None of that means she didn't mentally show up though, which is what you accused her of. She clearly did given her performance in the two events she won today, and the fact she fought right to the end to take the last sprint despite not being able to win by then.
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Post by jojo on Aug 9, 2021 6:28:01 GMT
We did well for saying some of our top stars were either injured at the wrong time or didnt perform to expectation. Good to see Jason Kenny come away with that Gold. I love Laura Kenny as well but you got the impression she was done after her Gold the other day, infact she said that, and you wonder if she didnt mentally really turn up for her last event this morni6n, which I dont know how I feel about. I’ve watched her event 3 times today and I’d say the massive crash that her was not her fault in the first race probably had more to do with it than anything that happened the other day. There’s not a lot you can do when the person directly in front of you goes down and takes you out. Totally. You don't get to where Laura is without being someone who keeps on fighting, no matter how tough things are, or because you've already achieved success. It's a turn of phrase. Apparently Kenny told her that he was ready to go home, but he still went and won gold against many expectations! Other people in the team comment on her ability to laugh and joke between events, then switch it on when it happens. I think it's safe to say that she was very focused on winning in the Madison, and was pleased the hard work paid off and wasn't ruined by being caught up in a crash. The crash was definitely not her fault, and while everyone involved was OK, it will be a bit disorientating. It sounds as if the gap between events in the omnium was pretty short too, so tired legs was bound to play a role. I have to say I'm amazed how philosophical the cyclists are about being taken out of a race because of a crash that wasn't their fault. Presumably it happens often enough that they feel it evens out in the end. A bit like a lucky net chord in tennis, but it must be gutting when it's your once every four year chance of an Olympic medal.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 9, 2021 8:23:12 GMT
I’ve watched her event 3 times today and I’d say the massive crash that her was not her fault in the first race probably had more to do with it than anything that happened the other day. There’s not a lot you can do when the person directly in front of you goes down and takes you out. Totally. You don't get to where Laura is without being someone who keeps on fighting, no matter how tough things are, or because you've already achieved success. It's a turn of phrase. Apparently Kenny told her that he was ready to go home, but he still went and won gold against many expectations! Other people in the team comment on her ability to laugh and joke between events, then switch it on when it happens. I think it's safe to say that she was very focused on winning in the Madison, and was pleased the hard work paid off and wasn't ruined by being caught up in a crash. The crash was definitely not her fault, and while everyone involved was OK, it will be a bit disorientating. It sounds as if the gap between events in the omnium was pretty short too, so tired legs was bound to play a role. I have to say I'm amazed how philosophical the cyclists are about being taken out of a race because of a crash that wasn't their fault. Presumably it happens often enough that they feel it evens out in the end. A bit like a lucky net chord in tennis, but it must be gutting when it's your once every four year chance of an Olympic medal. This Although Jason's unexpected win gave me an opportunity to sing one last version of Streets of Kenny by Shack
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Post by jaqs on Aug 9, 2021 8:42:30 GMT
Im sad it’s over but Im not missing the 2am or even 7am starts. Paralympics next to fill some of the gap.
Whilst trying to keep up with which gymnasts are retiring, which are taking time off and who will be trying for worlds in October.
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 9, 2021 13:00:21 GMT
Im sad it’s over but Im not missing the 2am or even 7am starts. Paralympics next to fill some of the gap. Whilst trying to keep up with which gymnasts are retiring, which are taking time off and who will be trying for worlds in October. A dreadful thing to say, bear with me on this one - but I disagree with the Paralympics, in its current form. After a very successful Paralympics in London and the whole event was sponsored by Sainsburys, which was a first. It was therefore depressing to see it go down hill in Brazil and not taken seriously by many nations. I reckon they should extend the Olympic Games to 3 weeks and have Paralympic events in the main Olympics, also there should only be one medal table also.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 9, 2021 15:54:26 GMT
I think its been widely accepted that the 2012 Paralympics was the most successful ever and doubt it will ever be repeated. Part of it was down to the fact that the main Olympics sold out so people bought Paralympics tickets to be able to experience the Olympics. The venues were packed every day which has never happened before and many of the Olympians became household names. We really embraced it and created a great atmosphere. As well as working on the Olympics for several years I also went to several events at both Olympics and Paralympics and can honestly day that I actually preferred the whole Paralympic experience which had the most amazing atmosphere.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Aug 9, 2021 16:44:27 GMT
I think its been widely accepted that the 2012 Paralympics was the most successful ever and doubt it will ever be repeated. Part of it was down to the fact that the main Olympics sold out so people bought Paralympics tickets to be able to experience the Olympics. The venues were packed every day which has never happened before and many of the Olympians became household names. We really embraced it and created a great atmosphere. As well as working on the Olympics for several years I also went to several events at both Olympics and Paralympics and can honestly day that I actually preferred the whole Paralympic experience which had the most amazing atmosphere. Tokyo would have been really good with supporters. Paris will be a great spectacle also, signing up for ticket notifications for Paris
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Post by The Matthew on Aug 9, 2021 17:28:22 GMT
After a very successful Paralympics in London and the whole event was sponsored by Sainsburys, which was a first. It was therefore depressing to see it go down hill in Brazil and not taken seriously by many nations. If I recall correctly the Olympic Broadcasting Services didn't bother covering some of the Paralympic events in Rio and it was left to Channel 4 / Sunset+Vine to provide the only available TV coverage of some aspects of the Games. I have vague memories of them supplying footage to other countries as well, but I can't find any references to that now so I may be misremembering.
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Post by alece10 on Aug 9, 2021 17:37:36 GMT
After a very successful Paralympics in London and the whole event was sponsored by Sainsburys, which was a first. It was therefore depressing to see it go down hill in Brazil and not taken seriously by many nations. If I recall correctly the Olympic Broadcasting Services didn't bother covering some of the Paralympic events in Rio and it was left to Channel 4 / Sunset+Vine to provide the only available TV coverage of some aspects of the Games. I have vague memories of them supplying footage to other countries as well, but I can't find any references to that now so I may be misremembering. There was a very interesting documentary on BBC called Going For Gold (still available on iplayer) and I remember Dame Tanni Gray Thompson saying that stadiums and venues in Rio were nearly completely empty for the Paras.
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 9, 2021 18:54:51 GMT
In fairness the stadia in Rio were empty for the Olympics, a big disaster there unfortunately.
The Olympic committee are like FIFA for the World Cup, they go where the money is. Public opinion really shifted in Japan and the population were sadly quite anti-Olympics in the end. It is going to Paris in 3 years time, the French can be quite volatile and whimsical, it doesn’t take them much to protest and riot (Do you hear the people sing.) Then it is Los Angeles in 2028 where the Americans love anything like that, unless public money is spent on it.
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Post by kathryn on Aug 9, 2021 19:25:51 GMT
If I recall correctly the Olympic Broadcasting Services didn't bother covering some of the Paralympic events in Rio and it was left to Channel 4 / Sunset+Vine to provide the only available TV coverage of some aspects of the Games. I have vague memories of them supplying footage to other countries as well, but I can't find any references to that now so I may be misremembering. There was a very interesting documentary on BBC called Going For Gold (still available on iplayer) and I remember Dame Tanni Gray Thompson saying that stadiums and venues in Rio were nearly completely empty for the Paras. Didn’t she also say that it picked up after people realised there were tickets available to buy? It was the organising committee’s incompetence and corruption that mucked everything up for them, not a lack of interest from the public.
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Post by kathryn on Aug 9, 2021 19:32:52 GMT
I think its been widely accepted that the 2012 Paralympics was the most successful ever and doubt it will ever be repeated. Part of it was down to the fact that the main Olympics sold out so people bought Paralympics tickets to be able to experience the Olympics. The venues were packed every day which has never happened before and many of the Olympians became household names. We really embraced it and created a great atmosphere. As well as working on the Olympics for several years I also went to several events at both Olympics and Paralympics and can honestly day that I actually preferred the whole Paralympic experience which had the most amazing atmosphere. I think it’s a bit more than that - the Paralympics started here, and we’ve always had more interest in it than some other countries. There’s a cultural delight in stories of people overcoming adversity which makes the paralympics resonate, I think. It’s a bit like how everyone mentioned that the crowds at the 2012 Olympics would always cheer as loud or louder for an injured competitor who limped in last over the line as the winner. That is apparently just not something that happens at Olympics in other countries, and really surprised a lot of the commentators from overseas.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 12, 2021 19:45:05 GMT
as I said... it is a joke event...they are all doped most of them not get caught
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Post by poster J on Aug 12, 2021 20:17:16 GMT
as I said... it is a joke event...they are all doped most of them not get caught Your generalisations are astounding. Three athletes out of hundreds competing is not all. You are essentially defaming all the athletes who compete clean, so perhaps think again.
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Post by The Matthew on Aug 25, 2021 14:24:16 GMT
Paralympics time, and we already have six medals.
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Post by The Matthew on Sept 5, 2021 17:22:41 GMT
OK, so that's Tokyo 2020 over. At least it's not long until the Winter Games. (And damn, we did well in the Paralympics. As they pointed out on The Last Leg, Britain excels at being disabled.)
But given how entertaining some of these sports are it baffles me that we don't see more of them on TV more of the time. Football, cricket and golf ... it's like someone made a list of all the sports, sorted them by boringness, took the ones that topped the tedium list and said "These are the things we should put thousands of hours of TV into".
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Post by hairspray57 on Sept 15, 2021 10:14:29 GMT
Im sad it’s over but Im not missing the 2am or even 7am starts. Paralympics next to fill some of the gap. Whilst trying to keep up with which gymnasts are retiring, which are taking time off and who will be trying for worlds in October. A dreadful thing to say, bear with me on this one - but I disagree with the Paralympics, in its current form. After a very successful Paralympics in London and the whole event was sponsored by Sainsburys, which was a first. It was therefore depressing to see it go down hill in Brazil and not taken seriously by many nations. I reckon they should extend the Olympic Games to 3 weeks and have Paralympic events in the main Olympics, also there should only be one medal table also. The Olympics struggles to get hosts as it is. Adding the Paralympics to the main games would mean it would require more Venues and accommodation even with the games extended.And even three weeks would be a struggle to fit in all in and not have the issue of para sports getting no coverage as an able bodied event is airing up against it.
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