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Post by partytentdown on Apr 22, 2019 8:09:23 GMT
It's 2 years since Emma Rice left the Globe, I've just been rereading those very open letters written by her and Dominic Dromgoole www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/entertainment-arts-39645975. I'm interested to know if people think 'the wounds have healed', has the organisation recovered or will it be forever be scarred by this drama?
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Post by learfan on Apr 22, 2019 8:25:48 GMT
It seems to me that the post of AD has been downgraded. The head of the Globe is now the CEO. It will be interesting to see how long Michelle Terry is in post. Another issue for me is that they still dont attract the tier one actors and directors.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 8:47:18 GMT
Actually it's two years since the announcement, but a year since the official end of her tenure. Not sure many people see it as an issue now [many people outside the theatreworld bubble anyway]? Certainly the people directly involved have moved on.
The Globe is doing as well as it ever did, I think, although they do seem to have reduced their artistic programme (eg no new work this year). Emilia (which I suspect some people assume was a Rice-era show but was in Terry's first season) did well and has transferred. There seem to be some financial problems (eg leading to closing the exhibition) but not sure that's particularly related to either Rice or Terry.
Meanwhile despite early grumbles, Wise Children seems to also be doing OK, and looking at their website they are sticking to their commitment to the South West in terms of training etc.
Suspect 90% of visitors to the Globe have no idea who runs it.
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Post by kathryn on Apr 22, 2019 14:30:48 GMT
How are you defining ‘new work’? Because After Edward was new - it only had a short run in the Swanamaker though.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Apr 22, 2019 16:10:57 GMT
There’s major new work in development right now, programmed for next year. Not sure if that’s intentional or not to alternate new work with all Shakespeare seasons. They’re certainly hoping next year’s production will be the new Emilia.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 16:21:15 GMT
How are you defining ‘new work’? Because After Edward was new - it only had a short run in the Swanamaker though. Clearly I'm defining it as "things I remembered" But also was really thinking of the Globe summer season which would in previous years have had a couple of new plays per year. Good to hear from samuelwhiskers that something is in the works for next year. Perhaps the two change-overs of AD in quick succession meant there wasn't a pipeline of new plays. Looking back at this from 2017 - www.whatsonstage.com/london-theatre/news/michelle-terry-shakespeare-globe-no-directing_44417.html -
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 16:45:15 GMT
I've only seen Emilia (which I loved, though in its West End transfer) since Romantics Anonymous.
Nothing appealed last year either in the Globe or Wanamaker, Blanche Mcintyre is directing Jonson's Bartholomew Fair in the Wanamaker later this year, though, so that's on my list. Sean Holmes directing A Midsummer Night's Dream as well, this summer, which could be interesting.
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Post by MrsCondomine on Apr 23, 2019 11:49:31 GMT
A lot of the Globe's output over the last year has averaged lukewarm 3-star reviews. I saw a couple of productions, only one of which was any good (Faustus - Terry's Hamlet was awful).
The quality of productions and acting has nosedived imho. They make some STUPID decisions re staging/costume/casting, and dredge up some really awful fresh-outta-Rada "talent" that puts am-dram to shame.
The tourists love it though.
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Post by peggs on Apr 23, 2019 12:10:04 GMT
I saw Hamlet, As you like it, Winter's Tale, Two noble kinsmans outside, Macbeth inside and Emilia in the westend. I adored Macbeth, kicked myself for not having seen Emilia at the globe, found whole new things to discover in Hamlet, found Kinsman a surprising delight, As you like it and winter's tale I found middling but they amused/passed the time well enough. I agree there was some slightly odd costume use and some of the casting didn't quite work but some of the changing around of gender etc was illuminating for me. Oh and Othello I saw that but that seems to have made the least impact of me. I can't argue that a lot of the reviews for outside at least were not great but I think more and more I don't find I relate to reviews very much. I'm not wildly excited about this year but that's probably not a bad thing, go with low expectations and see what happens and so much about going there for me as I stand is influenced by where I end up, the weather, people I chat too that it's always bigger that just what's going on, on stage.
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Post by MrsCondomine on Apr 23, 2019 12:14:47 GMT
peggs I loved the promise of gender-swapping in Hamlet but I thought the actor playing Ophelia was so weak, it ruined a lot of it for me. Thought the sign-language Ros and Guil were inspired though - that was one of the few bits of the production that did work for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 12:24:49 GMT
Not sure the reviews are any worse than usual for the Globe - critics have always been a bit sniffy haven't they? I may be misremembering though.
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Post by peggs on Apr 23, 2019 13:00:27 GMT
Oh Ophelia worked for me, it's a character I often struggle with as a role. I am a Michelle Terry fan though so rather added a lot.
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Post by learfan on Apr 23, 2019 17:49:13 GMT
A lot of the Globe's output over the last year has averaged lukewarm 3-star reviews. I saw a couple of productions, only one of which was any good (Faustus - Terry's Hamlet was awful). The quality of productions and acting has nosedived imho. They make some STUPID decisions re staging/costume/casting, and dredge up some really awful fresh-outta-Rada "talent" that puts am-dram to shame. The tourists love it though. i remain convinced most of them think its the original!
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Post by peggs on Apr 23, 2019 19:03:49 GMT
A lot of the Globe's output over the last year has averaged lukewarm 3-star reviews. I saw a couple of productions, only one of which was any good (Faustus - Terry's Hamlet was awful). The quality of productions and acting has nosedived imho. They make some STUPID decisions re staging/costume/casting, and dredge up some really awful fresh-outta-Rada "talent" that puts am-dram to shame. The tourists love it though. i remain convinced most of them think its the original! I went on a tour there once and when the guide said it wasn't the original I seemed to be the only person to not be shocked and disappointed. Then again if you ever sit in the groundling queue and listen to what those guides with umbrellas are telling people it's hardly surprising people are confused. My niece who I have been threatening to take for years when she is tall enough won brownie points for knowing it wasn't the original and how the that burnt down, there may be hope yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 12:45:38 GMT
Whereas if you talk to the Groundling Queue they’ll tell you to come back another day so you don’t steal their spot 😉
Can’t speak to Emma Rice’s artistic output but her company did send me the rudest rejection email I’ve ever had.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Apr 24, 2019 13:06:19 GMT
Whereas if you talk to the Groundling Queue they’ll tell you to come back another day so you don’t steal their spot 😉 Can’t speak to Emma Rice’s artistic output but her company did send me the rudest rejection email I’ve ever had. Are we allowed to know any deets of the letter?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 18:08:10 GMT
Oh it was nothing scandalous just f***ing lazy.
'We are not taking your application further'
that was it, that was the whole email, not a dear, not a from (other than the automated company footer) Which while not offensive, is lazy, and simple pleasantries go a long way (and take minutes of a day to give!) the usual cursory sentence about 'high volume of applications' or whatever also never goes amiss.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 5:59:45 GMT
Gosh, that's brutally short. I'm glad she got the boot now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 6:49:47 GMT
“We are not taking your artistic directorship further”
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 25, 2019 14:01:21 GMT
Gosh, that's brutally short. For a moment I thought the thread had strayed onto Tibidabo. 🙂
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 25, 2019 16:40:41 GMT
Gosh, that's brutally short.For a moment I thought the thread had strayed onto Tibidabo . 🙂 You're on thin ice TallPaul. I may shortly be brutal...
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 25, 2019 17:21:09 GMT
For a moment I thought the thread had strayed onto Tibidabo . 🙂 You're on thin ice TallPaul. I may shortly be brutal... I'd best put my shin pads on then!
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 25, 2019 17:24:32 GMT
I'd best put my shin pads on then! Cheeky. I reckon I'd reach your knee at a stretch.
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