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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 8, 2018 18:27:39 GMT
Your environmental footprint I mean, obviously. Given the news today that we’re all going to DIE if we don’t achieve the target of not increasing the global temperature by more than 1.5 degrees and instead are careering towards a 3 degree increase.
Mine is tiny (footprint I mean 😮). No car, car club or public transport EVERYwhere (uber classifies as public doesn’t it?), I only have red meat about once a day week, make my own yoghurt, erm.. no car.. sh*t I said that already... er... anyway there’s loads more I’m good at. My only sin is lighting. I do like lighting. I think occasional lighting is SO important, it can truly transorm a room. I’m slightly ashamed to confess that I’ve got five lights on in my sitting room right now BUT most of them are low energy (I’ve still got a stash of tungsten carbide for those special occasions though).
Anyways it’s not too late, we can still meet the 1.5 degree target. This is what we can all do to help: buy less meat, milk, cheese and butter and more locally sourced seasonal food - and throw less of it away • drive electric cars but walk or cycle short distances • take trains and buses instead of planes • use videoconferencing instead of business travel • use a washing line instead of a tumble dryer • insulate homes • demand low carbon in every consumer product.
So how y’all doing with that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 18:37:16 GMT
Well @ryan is going to be seriously disappointed by the misleading title.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 19:20:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 19:25:09 GMT
Today the penny dropped, like an apple upon the head of Newton. I was reading posts on Twitter earlier on when Climate Change was trending (it's not hot anymore, Strictly IT2 is now far more important) and the reckoning is that climate change is down to the perpetual need for growth, in both industry and business. The need to linearly increase profit annually has driven this situation. This powerful desire to fuel growth is the root of the issue. HOWEVER! The UK has it sussed. We're going to be saviours of the planet and pioneers of the process. It's all clear now. By triggering Brexit all growth will cease and industry across the UK will grind to an unprecedented low. We won't be able to afford our luxurious holidays abroad, so the amount of plans flying in/out will drop. Our imports will drop due to rising costs, clearing the Channel. Fuel will exponentially rise in cost, again, so people will use less. It's genius. Why didn't we all realise this was the incredibly intelligent, fore-thinking plan of Cameron and co.
Anyway, more seriously. I'm increasingly conscious every day of the implications of my activities on my carbon footprint. I now walk to work instead of driving (partly down to moving 45 miles closer to work) and Tram it to regular hospital visits I require instead of driving now. But I live alone, so I'm less economic with some resources than say a couple or a family. I'm constantly conscious of not leaving lights on and being economic with electronics - trying to get more people in work to turn their computers off overnights etc. I watch less tele and don't use a microwave which means again lower electricity requirement. Over the last year I've phased out all meats (fish I'm finding harder to do) and replaced Dairy milk/cream with soya/oat substitutes (which generally taste nicer - Alpro Soya Cream for Scrambled egg!) The big area that lets me down is the amount of reliance I have upon hospital treatment and the amount of waste that goes into/comes out of that. Huge amounts of plastic wrapping/single-use needles/blister packs etc going into incinerators or landfill.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Oct 8, 2018 19:29:01 GMT
12th Apr
Oh dear, didn’t think I was that bad, must be primarily diet as mainly walk or use public transport.
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Post by rockinrobin on Oct 8, 2018 19:32:14 GMT
Urm. My Earth overshoot day is 7th March... That's a bit horrifying.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 19:32:35 GMT
I do feel rather helpless in all of it though... Compared to the big players of industry us little people can't do that much. There's so much resistance against renewables from the big conglomerates because they fundamentally make so much money out of oil and nothing will stop them. This government blatantly doesn't care, its got bigger fish to fry, and even if it did, they wouldn't know how and there's no backbone to stand up and empower a serious change.
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Post by SageStageMgr on Oct 8, 2018 19:49:09 GMT
Today the penny dropped, like an apple upon the head of Newton. I was reading posts on Twitter earlier on when Climate Change was trending (it's not hot anymore, Strictly IT2 is now far more important) and the reckoning is that climate change is down to the perpetual need for growth, in both industry and business. The need to linearly increase profit annually has driven this situation. This powerful desire to fuel growth is the root of the issue. HOWEVER! The UK has it sussed. We're going to be saviours of the planet and pioneers of the process. It's all clear now. By triggering Brexit all growth will cease and industry across the UK will grind to an unprecedented low. We won't be able to afford our luxurious holidays abroad, so the amount of plans flying in/out will drop. Our imports will drop due to rising costs, clearing the Channel. Fuel will exponentially rise in cost, again, so people will use less. It's genius. Why didn't we all realise this was the incredibly intelligent, fore-thinking plan of Cameron and co. Anyway, more seriously. I'm increasingly conscious every day of the implications of my activities on my carbon footprint. I now walk to work instead of driving (partly down to moving 45 miles closer to work) and Tram it to regular hospital visits I require instead of driving now. But I live alone, so I'm less economic with some resources than say a couple or a family. I'm constantly conscious of not leaving lights on and being economic with electronics - trying to get more people in work to turn their computers off overnights etc. I watch less tele and don't use a microwave which means again lower electricity requirement. Over the last year I've phased out all meats (fish I'm finding harder to do) and replaced Dairy milk/cream with soya/oat substitutes (which generally taste nicer - Alpro Soya Cream for Scrambled egg!) The big area that lets me down is the amount of reliance I have upon hospital treatment and the amount of waste that goes into/comes out of that. Huge amounts of plastic wrapping/single-use needles/blister packs etc going into incinerators or landfill. Climate change is a myth... Only joking. We’re all going to die.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 19:56:30 GMT
I do feel rather helpless in all of it though... Compared to the big players of industry us little people can't do that much. There's so much resistance against renewables from the big conglomerates because they fundamentally make so much money out of oil and nothing will stop them. This government blatantly doesn't care, its got bigger fish to fry, and even if it did, they wouldn't know how and there's no backbone to stand up and empower a serious change. Cant agree with all that. I mean for a start, running out of fossil fuels will stop them all eventually. In terms of the government, there are at least 5 renewable projects running at the moment. It’s half the reason your energy prices are so high.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 20:26:19 GMT
The first thing that site does is ask for my email address. Nope.
I work from home so I don't make any commuting contributions. I've recently had my central heating replaced with a new and modern system so that's about as efficient as it can be. I wouldn't be averse to driving an electric car, except that they're expensive, the second-hand market is nonexistent, and most importantly I'd have to run an extension lead down the street and over the road because hardly anyone round here has parking on their own property.
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Post by sf on Oct 8, 2018 22:49:14 GMT
I started doing the quiz and then stopped. It's far too simplistic.
Under transport, for example, it asks how far you travel in a given week using public transportation. OK, but mode counts - an electric train or tram will have less of a carbon impact than a diesel coach. The CO2 emissions one person generates travelling from Manchester to London and back on a 500-seat electric train are lower than they would be travelling by Megabus. And so on.
And food. Yes, sure, plant-based foods in general have a lower environmental impact than animal-based foods - but the environmental cost of something like almond milk is very heavy indeed.
And so on. I do think people in general - myself included - ought to pay attention. I mostly work from home so on most days I don't have a commute, I don't drive a car, I buy carbon offsets when I fly (and haven't flown for a few years - but for a long time a certain amount of flying was necessary in both my work and personal life, and I can't rule out being in that position again in the future), I recycle religiously, watch food miles, try to make careful choices about packaging, don't buy much processed food, use low-energy lightbulbs, my home is properly insulated... etc etc. I am hardly drowning in money, but I will pay extra every time if a greener choice is available.
The bigger changes, though, need to happen at government level - and that's not going to happen with our current government.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 4:16:56 GMT
I don't think the bigger changes will happen with any government. People want the government to spend money on them. They aren't going to support a government that spends money now to help the future. I've often thought that if we discovered that a large asteroid was due to crash into the earth in 200 years nobody would do anything about it: it would be expensive, there are more urgent problems that need dealing with right away, four more years before we do something won't make that much of a difference, and if we do it now people will complain that their money is being spent for someone else's benefit. So it gets kicked along for the next government to sort out. And by the time the urgency is too great to ignore it's too late.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 5:25:15 GMT
I wouldn't be averse to driving an electric car, except that they're expensive, the second-hand market is nonexistent, and most importantly I'd have to run an extension lead down the street and over the road because hardly anyone round here has parking on their own property. The electric car thing is such a con. It is, currently, in no way an acceptable replacement for fossil-fueled vehicles. People are just so easily mislead into thinking their doing their bit driving something new which is marketed as 'efficient'. Aside from the fact that the amount of carbon produced in the manufacture of the batteries required for the vehicle is more than that of a fossil-fueled engine theres also the small factor of the electricity source paradox.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 5:33:09 GMT
I do feel rather helpless in all of it though... Compared to the big players of industry us little people can't do that much. There's so much resistance against renewables from the big conglomerates because they fundamentally make so much money out of oil and nothing will stop them. This government blatantly doesn't care, its got bigger fish to fry, and even if it did, they wouldn't know how and there's no backbone to stand up and empower a serious change. Cant agree with all that. I mean for a start, running out of fossil fuels will stop them all eventually. In terms of the government, there are at least 5 renewable projects running at the moment. It’s half the reason your energy prices are so high. I was talking more globally in terms of resistance to renewables... China and the US being the biggest offenders. Any change the UK implements is negligible against the output of those two. That said, 40-70% of our energy alone still comes from the 33 combined gas turbines and steam power stations around the UK, which are serial offenders in terms of co2 generated.
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Post by shady23 on Oct 9, 2018 7:45:24 GMT
There was an excellent Stacey Dooley documentary on the BBC last night about throwaway fashion and it's impact on the world. She travelled around and saw places where whole seas have disappeared as the water has been rerouted for the cotton production and saw what huge impact it all has on the local communities. It was pretty terrifying to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 8:28:51 GMT
There was an excellent Stacey Dooley documentary on the BBC last night about throwaway fashion and it's impact on the world. I didn't see the documentary but I read the related article on the BBC's website. Fortunately my understanding of fashion is limited to the knowledge that I shouldn't walk around with my bits hanging out and that I need more clothes in winter and fewer in summer, so I buy new clothes only when I run out of old ones. I've heard of a thing called style but I'll have none of that nonsense, thank you very much.
Of course, if being environmentally conscientious becomes the in thing then I'll suddenly be stylish without even trying.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 9, 2018 17:14:33 GMT
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Post by Mark on Oct 9, 2018 18:17:44 GMT
Spending over 900 hours a year working on an airplane, and another 100 or so commuting on one (+ holidays!), I daren't even think about it!
I don't drive a car myself though so...... I guess thats something.
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