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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 8:54:50 GMT
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 21, 2018 13:03:19 GMT
Wales is a large village/small town betwixt Sheffield and Rotherham. I'm not sure much happens there!
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 21, 2018 14:01:03 GMT
It didn't make sense to the group of Belgium football supporters who arrived for an international. Still, at least they got their 15 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 14:20:03 GMT
Wales? Aren't they, like, big fish or something?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 14:47:08 GMT
I am laughing double hard because Welsh theatre has no sense of humour and would be OUTRAGED at your jokes.
Could be why I'm the black sheep. And you know what we do to sheep here in Wales.
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Post by jadnoop on Sept 21, 2018 14:58:55 GMT
The "National Theatre" bit I get, but what is "Wales"? Something to do with a retirement home for Prince Charles, is my best guess? To quote Ali G, it's the fish with the biggest dick in the ocean.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 15:10:06 GMT
It sounds like the letter-writers have some really good points. How can a National Theatre of Wales receive money from Arts Council Wales for putting on theatre and then just... not? Our local self-funded amdram groups manage several different productions a year, and have never fobbed anyone off with a photography exhibition. Reckon it'd be worth stirring up a bunch of like-minded theatrical practitioners to hijack the name, call themselves the Real NT Cymru or something, and get to work? I bet Gary Owen at least could be convinced into giving it a go.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 15:36:53 GMT
Oh the Welsh are funny aren't they? They *do* love a consonant. Unless it's Q. Or Z.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 16:01:43 GMT
It sounds like the letter-writers have some really good points. How can a National Theatre of Wales receive money from Arts Council Wales for putting on theatre and then just... not? Our local self-funded amdram groups manage several different productions a year, and have never fobbed anyone off with a photography exhibition. Reckon it'd be worth stirring up a bunch of like-minded theatrical practitioners to hijack the name, call themselves the Real NT Cymru or something, and get to work? I bet Gary Owen at least could be convinced into giving it a go..... Well guess whose face has been all over the news with it is all I'm saying.... In all seriousness yes. And having been inside the beast, as it were at the Arts Council what they do and don't fund is equally a mystery to me as it is to outsiders. I will say that in the old regime at NTW (as many problems as that had) it at least felt like Welsh work from Wales was being produced, which after all seems rather the point. Ironically given John McGrath's new job we seem to have more Manchester based writers at NTW than Welsh....
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Post by hulmeman on Sept 21, 2018 16:16:41 GMT
I see two sides to this situation. Firstly NTW is clearly challenging preconceptions of what theatre or performing arts really means. A look at the productions and the venues used proves that. However, it seems that the venues chosen suggest the company should be retitled NTSASWW or National Theatre south and south west Wales. As far as I can see the only visit to the north was for Yr Helfa in Snowdon. Aberystwyth, Harlech, Bangor Llandudno Rhyl all have theatres and Wrexham and Newtown have performing arts spaces. All so far neglected by NTW. Site specific productions should not preclude the use of more conventional performing spaces.
As for the use of predominantly Welsh actors (both sexes) I agree they should be strongly represented but not to the exclusion of all. Same with Welsh writers, let them make a compelling case by writing compelling Welsh related stories. They don't have a monopoly on Welsh stories.
Clwyd Theatr Cymru are clearly having an input to the national theatre scene, but mainly only in North East Wales. Perhaps some joined up "all points Wales" direction is required from ACW?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 18:05:33 GMT
Why did they have to make this so public at this stage? Why didn’t they just write to the Theatre in the first instance?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 19:31:17 GMT
How do you know they didn't? This does seem like more of a last resort than a first step, so I kind of assume they have been trying to fix it in other ways before now. Just because they've not done anything as publicly doesn't mean they've not done anything at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 20:22:07 GMT
How do you know they didn't? This does seem like more of a last resort than a first step, so I kind of assume they have been trying to fix it in other ways before now. Just because they've not done anything as publicly doesn't mean they've not done anything at all. If That is the case it would be good for that to be in the letter so that the public has an overview of a situation that has reached a critical point.
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