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Post by duncan on Jun 12, 2018 9:30:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2018 7:39:27 GMT
Not sure what you are sorry about! |
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Post by duncan on Jun 16, 2018 7:57:17 GMT
I'm so so sorry
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Post by Rozzi Rainbow on Jun 17, 2018 19:29:28 GMT
It's wrong how this is being reported. The Supreme Court did not rule for the baker. They ruled that the "Colorado Civil Rights Commission mishandled Phillips' claim. The court did not rule that the Constitution grants the right to discriminate but maintained the longstanding principle that business owners cannot deny equal access to goods and services." And it was a very narrow ruling. Basically the the CO Civil Rights Commission bungled how they came to the ruling they did. If they would have just kept their mouths shut and not made discriminatory remarks during their ruling about the bakers religious beliefs and if they were even sincere, and made the same ruling, it would have been upheld. More interesting is the cake case from Northern Ireland where it was ruled by the UK Supreme Court that the bakers were wrong to refuse to make a cake saying “Support gay marriage” because it was against their religious beliefs. This strikes me as intolerant because as the bakers argued, their objection was to the slogan on the cake and not to the individual customers ordering it. The ruling seems to force them to appear to support a particular political view. I can understand it from the bakers' point of view here, as it's not that they were unwilling to serve the customers, it's that they were unwilling to make that particular cake (to serve to anybody). There must be a limit beyond which the bakers wouldn't be expected to print certain slogans on cakes, e.g. those which would be extremely offensive to the majority of people. The problem is finding that limit as everyone's tolerance levels are different. Any business owner should be allowed to decide what to sell or not (the difference here being what to sell to anybody, not to whom to sell). And whist I agree it's a 'great way to lose customers' to quote the title of this thread, this is obviously the bakers' choice, and the customers (and any others who take offense at this action) are free to take their custom elsewhere. |
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