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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 5:04:27 GMT
terrific film
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 8:06:53 GMT
Loved Pan's Labyrinth when it came out, so looking forward to seeing another GDT production. Have been listening to the haunting soundtrack for the last couple of months and loving it!
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 2, 2018 9:00:35 GMT
I watched it a couple of weeks ago and liked it but didn't love it, I thought the central relationship was underdeveloped, especially in its early stages.
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Post by Marwood on Feb 2, 2018 10:04:36 GMT
Going to a preview at the BFI next week, I also loved Pans Labyrinth but to tell the truth, haven't been that keen on much of Del Toro's output since then (I thought Pacific Rim was dreadful, God knows who decided that needed a sequel).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 10:16:32 GMT
I'd like to speak in defence of Pacific Rim, but I fear that if I start typing then it'll descend into ranting really fast. Let's just say I spent much of my formative period watching Japanese giant robot cartoons, and therefore Pacific Rim really speaks to my soul in a way that logically one would think it shouldn't. I am unbelievably excited for the sequel (even though Del Toro, Ramin Djawadi, and some key cast members aren't returning), and just as I appreciate everyone isn't coming from my perspective, I would ask you to take it on faith that if you *are* coming from my perspective, then Pacific Rim is a genuine work of goddamned art. I'm also really excited about The Shape Of Water, but I am first and foremost a Pacific Rim stan and I will never be apologetic about that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 10:31:52 GMT
It was such a perfect film. Meaningful and wonderful. Should get the Oscar. Deserves it . Better than The Reader my favourite film of all time
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Post by showgirl on Feb 4, 2018 11:08:50 GMT
Curzon is offering members' previews but when I read more about the content, it put me off. I've seen the trailer several times (possibly more than one version), but it doesn't show the parts which sounded objectionable to me so I'm glad I did some research or I might have booked.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 15:28:11 GMT
Would you mind sharing what aspects have put you off? Behind a spoiler tag, of course.
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Post by ctas on Feb 4, 2018 16:42:26 GMT
I saw this last week and it was just beautiful. Surreal at times but incredibly moving. I’m a big fan of GDT (including Pacific Rim, which I see being debated above!) and this one is no exception.
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Post by ellie1981 on Feb 4, 2018 20:27:47 GMT
I saw this at the London Film Festival and adored it. I don't think I've seen anything like it. Now seen 8 or the 9 Best Picture nominees (just Lady Bird to go) and tis is by far my favourite.
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Post by Marwood on Feb 8, 2018 9:55:13 GMT
Saw this last night and thought it was OK, without being anything spectacular. Michael Shannon, Richard Jenkins and Michael Stuhlbarg were all excellent, but I just thought the film missed that certain something to make it really come to life.
Personally I think Phantom Thread, Three Billboards and Dunkirk are all better films, but I can see this being the sort of thing the Academy really going for come Oscars night.
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Post by showgirl on Feb 13, 2018 4:19:47 GMT
Would you mind sharing what aspects have put you off? Behind a spoiler tag, of course. Sorry, Baemax, I've only just returned to this thread and seen your question. I'd happily share but am not confident with spoilers so don't want to risk posting publicly something potentially distasteful.
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Post by Marwood on Feb 13, 2018 11:58:18 GMT
Is/was it anything to do with...cats?
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Post by ellie1981 on Feb 13, 2018 12:12:01 GMT
Is/was it anything to do with...cats? As a cat lover I was quite upset by this scene. It took me a good few minutes to get over it.
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Post by showgirl on Feb 18, 2018 6:29:00 GMT
I decided to see this after all, to see what all the fuss was about, as I could fit it in yesterday, "free" as well as the usual plays and the film I most wanted to see (Lady Bird). So yes, it really wasn't my sort of thing (I won't try to pin down the genre and I read one review where the writer listed multiple types, but the major elements for me were fantasy and sci-fi, both of which I dislike - hence my original disinclination to see it), but I can see why it would appeal to others and that there's a lot to admire.
It didn't exactly drag but I did check my watch after what seemed quite a long interval and was surprised to find that the film was only half-way through and though the cat incident wasn't particularly disturbing for me (you don't actually see it but are still left with a graphic impression of what has happened), I was surprised by how gruesome and violent some of the content was.
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Post by jampot on Feb 18, 2018 9:56:52 GMT
Beautiful direction but left me cold overall sadly 6/10
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Post by Being Alive on Feb 18, 2018 17:51:00 GMT
Just come out of the cinema and I’m speechless. It’s one of the most beautiful films I’ve ever seen - fantastically directed by GDT. Sally Hawkins needs every award for that - I’ve never seen a performance say so much by saying nothing. Absolutely fantastic. 5 stars from me
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 0:27:34 GMT
It beautifully designed, well acted, but it was so predictable. I saw the ending coming a mile off. Surely that ending wasn't meant to be a shock/surprise?
It didn't grip me. I watched it in 2 halves, last night and finished it tonight.
Personally, 3 Billboards blew this out of the water. pun intended.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 9:54:57 GMT
Can we get over the idea that endings have to be surprising to be any cop? We knew the Titanic would sink, we knew Romeo and Juliet would kill themselves, we knew Satine was going to die less than five minutes in. Stories are about the journey FAR more than they are about the destination, and storymakers forget about this at their peril.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 10:07:29 GMT
I must admit I didn't see the ending coming, despite it ultimately being implied at through the poster and artwork. I was of the assumption throughout that the water creature would be giving Elisa her voice back, although once the scars turned to gills, I did feel silly for not getting the clues.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 10:22:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 20:41:12 GMT
Can we get over the idea that endings have to be surprising to be any cop? We knew the Titanic would sink, we knew Romeo and Juliet would kill themselves, we knew Satine was going to die less than five minutes in. Stories are about the journey FAR more than they are about the destination, and storymakers forget about this at their peril. Its one thing to see a film of a story thats been around for hundreds of years, but this is a new story. We're not supposed to kniw the ending, if it wasn't meant to be a big reveal then they would have told you at the beginming about her backstory. The ending was a let down and the 'journey wasn't all that, either.
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Post by orchidman on Feb 26, 2018 17:56:16 GMT
I liked Pan's Labyrinth but this didn't work at all for me, I think having the child's perspective in PL helped draw you in.
Limited psychological insight or development, all very inert, at times outright silly, the tone was all over the place, the subplots went nowhere, and the villain was cartoonish.
Three Billboards is flawed too but miles better.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Mar 11, 2018 17:53:24 GMT
Thought it was good but... Three Billboards>Shape of Water
8.3/10 v 7.6/10
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