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Post by Rory on Jan 8, 2018 19:57:15 GMT
I wonder why Cameron changed his ones?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:06:35 GMT
Nothing worse than a bookshelf full of books the same size! Now there speaks someone who has adequate shelving for their book collection and doesn't have to Tetris everything together in a desperate attempt to make it all fit! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 20:24:47 GMT
This is exactly the non-problem problem I have, thankyou for making my issues feel justified! As frustrating as the change in size of DMT programmes is, there are some benefits. They now match the size of the Old Vic and Globe programmes.
But I concur, I much much prefer the ATG & Nimax sized ones. I take with me a fabric tote and that is perfect for keeping any souvenirs flat in.
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Post by Stephen on Jan 8, 2018 22:02:44 GMT
The size of the programme for An American in Paris put me in almost as bad a mood as the show did.
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Post by tonyloco on Jan 9, 2018 1:00:37 GMT
Interesting that you have brought up this subject tonyloco as I am presently trying to find a home or homes for the bulk of a theatre collection (posters, programmes, flyers, from plays, musical theatre, variety, pantomime, circus) which I inherited from my late brother. The collection is mainly 1960s to 2002, I saved everything (despite family members wanting to throw out these thousands of lovely items) but (for several reasons) I have only recently got round to sorting through it all . I have been warned against donating to certain national collections , which have a lot of this kind of thing which never sees the light of day again , until the items are eventually auctioned off. The Australian guy’s attitude is appalling , but this seems to be the attitude of a few archives. I’m struggling to find any interest . Any help with where I can donate items from the collection will be gratefully accepted. I have successfully ebayed duplicates and taken holidays with the proceeds. My brother would have liked that . Maybe I’ve answered my own question . Actually, I think you have indeed answered your own question. For now, just keep anything that specially appeals to you then flog the rest on ebay and enjoy the proceeds. You are probably right about the main national archives (Mander and Mitchenson at Bristol University and the Theatre Museum at the V&A for example) but I wonder whether the British Music Hall Society might be interested in receiving that part of the collection that comes into their orbit. Check out the Archives section on their website where you will find the email address of the archivist David Reed, unless you have already contacted them. |
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Post by TallPaul on Jan 9, 2018 14:29:01 GMT
"The rest of the Mander & Mitchenson Collection is being assessed and prioritised for cataloguing."
I admit I'd never given it any thought until just a few seconds ago, but surely the word cataloguing deserves a prize just for looking wrong.
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Post by dippy on Jan 9, 2018 14:35:01 GMT
I admit I'd never given it any thought until just a few seconds ago, but surely the word cataloguing deserves a prize just for looking wrong. It really does and given the fact that I sometimes work as a cataloguer and have written the word loads of times it still looks wrong! Back on topic, I do not care what size or shape programmes are! I actually think it makes it faster to find a programme if you know which shape you are looking for. Can someone produce a round (well roundish, it would have to have a little straight bit for binding) programme please? I'd love to see if there are complaints! |
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Post by bimse on Jan 10, 2018 7:37:42 GMT
Interesting that you have brought up this subject tonyloco as I am presently trying to find a home or homes for the bulk of a theatre collection (posters, programmes, flyers, from plays, musical theatre, variety, pantomime, circus) which I inherited from my late brother. The collection is mainly 1960s to 2002, I saved everything (despite family members wanting to throw out these thousands of lovely items) but (for several reasons) I have only recently got round to sorting through it all . I have been warned against donating to certain national collections , which have a lot of this kind of thing which never sees the light of day again , until the items are eventually auctioned off. The Australian guy’s attitude is appalling , but this seems to be the attitude of a few archives. I’m struggling to find any interest . Any help with where I can donate items from the collection will be gratefully accepted. I have successfully ebayed duplicates and taken holidays with the proceeds. My brother would have liked that . Maybe I’ve answered my own question . Actually, I think you have indeed answered your own question. For now, just keep anything that specially appeals to you then flog the rest on ebay and enjoy the proceeds. You are probably right about the main national archives (Mander and Mitchenson at Bristol University and the Theatre Museum at the V&A for example) but I wonder whether the British Music Hall Society might be interested in receiving that part of the collection that comes into their orbit. Check out the Archives section on their website where you will find the email address of the archivist David Reed, unless you have already contacted them. Thank you so much tonyloco, that’s much appreciated, I haven’t contacted the British Music Hall Society , but will now do so. The local history archive at the Blackpool library has a big theatre and entertainment collection and is currently busy absorbing the Blackpool Tower Company’s collection into its archive . I have lots of interesting Blackpool items but doubt I can add anything they won’t already have, but I’ll see . |
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Post by tonyloco on Jan 10, 2018 13:12:05 GMT
BTW, bimse, where does the British Library stand in your investigation of archives? Have you approached them at all? I know it has the reputation for being a particularly large black hole into which things disappear, but on the other hand it is the nation's principal archive for all things printed. If you wished, I could make a discreet and unofficial enquiry of a pal of mine who looks after the sound archive to get his view on the BL's official stand on material relating to theatre in the widest sense. There is always the question of what they have already got but they might be pleased to get some of what you are disposing of.
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Post by mallardo on Jan 10, 2018 13:49:07 GMT
What size is the NT programme for Network - is it the traditional narrow one or one of the oversize things initiated for Angels in America and then continued with Follies?
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Post by TallPaul on Jan 10, 2018 13:56:13 GMT
By coincidence, the current archive display in the foyer of the Crucible is of programmes from past productions. Over the years there have been big glossy ones, small basic ones, A4 ones, A5 ones, tall thin ones and short fat ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 14:09:36 GMT
By coincidence, the current archive display in the foyer of the Crucible is of programmes from past productions. Over the years there have been big glossy ones, small basic ones, A4 ones, A5 ones, tall thin ones and short fat ones. No guessing which ones are your favourites, TallPaul ! Or are you partial to an occasional short fat one? 😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 14:15:28 GMT
I used to stack all mine on a bookshelf according to their size but there are so many now they’re in a box in the loft. I hated the big square ones, the size of an LP. Impossible to stack. But the worst are some of the ‘quirky’ ones... I have one from the Young Vic, Terese Raquin, which I seem to remember folded out from the middle and it contained a rubber glove! Very bulky. I rarely buy programmes now.
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Post by tonyloco on Jan 10, 2018 14:30:58 GMT
I used to stack all mine on a bookshelf according to their size but there are so many now they’re in a box in the loft. I hated the big square ones, the size of an LP. Impossible to stack. But the worst are some of the ‘quirky’ ones... I have one from the Young Vic, Terese Raquin, which I seem to remember folded out from the middle and it contained a rubber glove! Very bulky. I rarely buy programmes now. When Ken Hill was putting on his shows at the Theatre Royal, Stratford East, after Joan Littlewood left, he was partial to 'quirky' programmes. For 'Is your Doctor Really Necessary' there was a white cardboard box with a red cross on it and a couple of plastic things like thermometers inside; for 'Curse of the Werewolf' there was a cardboard face mask of a very hairy werewolf with elastic bands to fasten it over one's ears, for 'Land of the Dinosaurs' there were several large white cardboard bones held together with ribbon, and so on. I gratefully donated the ones I had kept to Murray Melvin when he set up an archive at the theatre some years ago, along with my collection of production pics, flyers, posters, etc., none of which had survived at the theatre. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 15:23:14 GMT
^ Thank God the Royal Court isn’t into quirky programmes. I dread to think what they’d come up with for My Mum’s A Tw*t...
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Post by schuttep on Jan 10, 2018 15:43:42 GMT
What size is the NT programme for Network - is it the traditional narrow one or one of the oversize things initiated for Angels in America and then continued with Follies? Actually the oversize programme was initiated with Peter Pan for Christmas 2016 but I take your point. I have kept the NT programmes for nearly 40 years in the programme binders they have been selling for many years but now the programmes - as you say - come in two sizes and the NT bookshop staff advised me a couple of months ago that they will no longer produce binders. The RSC stopped selling binders a few years ago. They are trying to make us all go digital. Well - I refuse! |
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Post by CG on the loose on Jan 10, 2018 16:04:33 GMT
I admit I'd never given it any thought until just a few seconds ago, but surely the word cataloguing deserves a prize just for looking wrong. It really does and given the fact that I sometimes work as a cataloguer and have written the word loads of times it still looks wrong! Back on topic, I do not care what size or shape programmes are! I actually think it makes it faster to find a programme if you know which shape you are looking for. Can someone produce a round (well roundish, it would have to have a little straight bit for binding) programme please? I'd love to see if there are complaints! Not quite round... but clever design    |
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Post by dippy on Jan 10, 2018 16:24:19 GMT
Not quite round... but clever design Good enough for me, oh how much fun I would have if my job was to come up with crazy shaped programmes! People would hate me but I would have so much fun. |
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Post by mallardo on Jan 10, 2018 17:11:06 GMT
What size is the NT programme for Network - is it the traditional narrow one or one of the oversize things initiated for Angels in America and then continued with Follies? Follies / AIA sized. Same as Pinocchio - which goes one better with an "adult" programme opened one way, a "children's activity book" if opened the other. To be fair, the cast profiles are fun to read, though.
So is the large size for the blockbuster shows only? I wonder what the NT's criterion is for which show gets what size?
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Post by Tibidabo on Jan 10, 2018 17:41:30 GMT
Not quite round... but clever design Now that would make me want to chew my elbow off when trying to file.... |
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Post by CG on the loose on Jan 10, 2018 19:28:44 GMT
Not quite round... but clever design Now that would make me want to chew my elbow off when trying to file.... I had a quick hunt in my programme cupboard, thankfully remembering quite rapidly that it simply hadn't fitted... located it on another, deeper bookshelf, with the similarly sized Saigon gala programme! |
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Post by galinda on Mar 22, 2018 11:45:10 GMT
Nothing worse than a bookshelf full of books the same size! Now there speaks someone who has adequate shelving for their book collection and doesn't have to Tetris everything together in a desperate attempt to make it all fit! haha love this comment! Fitting all my programs in my bookcase is exactly like a game of Tetris! I have decided I have too many brochures/programs for my bookcase and so did a search on the board for ideas on best way to store them. My family are saying box them up and put them in the loft but what if I need to quickly check my Les Mis prog from 1994 to double check who I saw as Marius?!!! I like having them close by for reference!  |
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