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Post by jason71 on Dec 30, 2017 19:44:36 GMT
£3 to process a cash payment. Does it really cost this much to process a payment?
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Post by Kim_Bahorel on Dec 31, 2017 8:02:01 GMT
The only place I ever had a booking free paying in cash was at TKTS it's was £1. All the tickets I buy are in cash and usually from the venue but haven't been charged booking at venues (or at least the ones I have been to)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 8:07:16 GMT
£3 to process a cash payment. Does it really cost this much to process a payment? Not unless it somehow takes them 20 minutes to process a cash payment.
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Post by jason71 on Dec 31, 2017 10:54:27 GMT
The Theatre Royal Bath are another theatre that charge for cash bookings
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Post by Dawnstar on Dec 31, 2017 16:42:25 GMT
So does my local theatre, the Arts Theatre in Cambridge. £3 booking fee for all tickets no matter how you book them including in person with cash. Infuriates me!
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Post by fiyero on Dec 31, 2017 21:46:31 GMT
I noticed the o2 had signs saying they had booking fees for using the ticket office. Surely if the booking fee is charged on every ticket, no matter how its booked or paid for, it should just be added to the ticket cost?
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Post by lynette on Dec 31, 2017 21:49:02 GMT
We've been on about this for yonks now. But a new law coming in to stop percentage fees. Not holding my breath but there should be some movement on this whole vexed q now.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 1, 2018 0:58:07 GMT
The whole box office issue is a mess - but I don't think there is any political will to tackle it.
There is clearly an issue with major theatre groups exploiting their market positions - particularly when they are part of a group that also produces shows.
Visiting companies/producers could - nay should - stand up for their audiences and say enough is enough. Stop charging both us as visiting companies and our audiences for doing the basic work of running a theatre. They are the people with the negotiating strength to force some change.
There has to be transparency surrounding the whole issue of fees. There are still too many hidden things going on.
Perhaps we could persuade politicians to investigate the box office issue - but that would take years to bring about change.
We could, of course, start a grassroots campaign. A petition, letters to the press, letters to the media - keep up the pressure.
It is not acceptable for theatres to charge anything other than basic postage costs (where appropriate) for running a box office operation. They already charge back credit/debit card commissions to producers/visiting companies, they also charge producers/visiting companies for the cost of printing tickets. So why do they think it is right to charge audience members again for the same things?? The whole thing stinks - and we need to shout it loud from the rooftops. Make non-theatregeeks aware of how they are being ripped out time after time, get the creative professionals involved. Perhaps we can bring about change ourselves.
I doubt it - but it is nice to dream.
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Post by peelee on Jan 1, 2018 12:53:41 GMT
I'd pay a 20p booking fee, though I never knowingly pay anything. I buy tickets online that are priced as stated, and am happy to pay something of my choice as a donation to running of the theatre or contributing to a theatre project that money is being collected for.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 1, 2018 14:04:50 GMT
Surely it costs more to handle a cash transaction that a card one. Apart from the card issuers fee (which I gather is the thing that’s going to be stopped from this month onwards) the rest of a card booking is completely automated, and if you go for an e-ticket there are no physical costs either. Buying a ticket with cash means paying the person selling it to you, then someone to cash up, the securicor man to collect the cash and take it to the bank in his very expensive van,the bank clerk to process the cash etc etc. If there has to be a fee it makes more sense to charge it on cash than card bookings.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 1, 2018 14:11:22 GMT
Surely it costs more to handle a cash transaction that a card one. Apart from the card issuers fee (which I gather is the thing that’s going to be stopped from this month onwards) the rest of a card booking is completely automated, and if you go for an e-ticket there are no physical costs either. Buying a ticket with cash means paying the person selling it to you, then someone to cash up, the securicor man to collect the cash and take it to the bank in his very expensive van,the bank clerk to process the cash etc etc. If there has to be a fee it makes more sense to charge it on cash than card bookings. Given that the theatre almost certainly has a number of bars that accept cash as well as ushers selling programmes for cash, ice creams and other things being sold for cash and very possibly a merchandise kiosk selling things for cash, the additional cash handling costs generated by the box office are pretty minimal.
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Post by profquatermass on Jan 1, 2018 14:53:36 GMT
Yes it's fairly common for bars to be cash only and I've yet to see an ice cream or programme seller take cards
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 18:12:26 GMT
If there has to be a fee it makes more sense to charge it on cash than card bookings. The difference is that for the card booking they have to pay for using the external infrastructure at the bank's end to handle the online transaction while for a cash booking it (should) all be included as part of the internal cost of running the theatre.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 1, 2018 18:40:47 GMT
If there has to be a fee it makes more sense to charge it on cash than card bookings. The difference is that for the card booking they have to pay for using the external infrastructure at the bank's end to handle the online transaction while for a cash booking it (should) all be included as part of the internal cost of running the theatre. The two theatres I have had most direct dealings with recharge card commission to the visiting company so it is really only their in-house shows where they have to swallow that cost.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 19:00:17 GMT
Buying a ticket with cash means paying the person selling it to you, then someone to cash up, the securicor man to collect the cash and take it to the bank in his very expensive van,the bank clerk to process the cash etc etc. Well, this would be true of pretty much every business. Tesco somehow gets by without charging £3 per transaction every time you nip up the road. The costs involved are tiny - appx 1 minute of a clerk's time per order, an hour or so at the end of the day of cashing up and transporting money, to cover the entire day's takings.
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Post by grannyjx6 on Jan 2, 2018 0:00:58 GMT
My local theatre had a spell of charging £1.50 per transaction, whether buying one ticket or twenty and the punters went crackers, to the point that they have now dropped all charges, including posting tickets out. The local City Hall, on the other hand from there being no charge for personal callers to the box office and 10% for online, now charge 5% for personal callers (even if cash) and still 10% for online.
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