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Post by profquatermass on Dec 30, 2017 10:14:33 GMT
Lots to discuss here. I was particularly struck by the idea that none of the non-artistic staff should be allowed to clock off at 6pm and all computers would be switched off at 4.30. Which would make running the box office interesting. But plenty of other ideas too www.theguardian.com/stage/2017/dec/30/david-hare-my-ideal-theatre
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 12:43:40 GMT
A good number of things to agree with but it’s utopian and it’s easy to come up with ideals rather than practicalities. One thing that I do disagree with is having productions permanently in rep, I know that continental theatres often do it but I’m in agreement ith Brook that a production is dead after a few years.
As a confirmed egalitarian I really like the idea of the head tearing tickets (although bottom up is just as useful as Hare’s top down, having the cleaners commenting on productions, for example).
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Post by lynette on Dec 30, 2017 16:12:02 GMT
Isn't he sweet? That David Hare, eh? Yes, please everyone read this piece and thanks profq for posting it. Lots to discuss indeed. Just a few first impressions...
I like the idea of having a Theatre up the road. In fact there is one for me, but it doesn’t have anything much I would like to see. It has comedy acts trying out and children's shows at half term and a few bits and pieces. It doesn’t attract serious drama , new or old. I suppose you could call Hampstead Theatre local. People do live in Hampstead. And it has a good selection of plays and studio stuff. And the RSC is where people live but it isn’t in London so not real people. 😂 But by building the NT where they did, they, the people who thought they knew everything, said that our Theatre is London based and you need good transport to get to it. Having said that, we do like a night out. Going to the West End, having a meal and drink, meeting friends, jostling with our fellow citizens, all good. And unless we did this we might miss that crucial thing Hare is keen on,
learning about other identities. Except that
whenever I go to the Theatre I see the same people in the audiences regardless of the identities on the stage. Obviously it is what I choose to see that determines that. So people group themselves accordingly and I won’t go to a hip hop site specific experimental participatory play in a foreign language any more than someone else might go to see a production of The Seagull. Tennant's Hamlet the exception and that leads to another discussion we have had.
His view of critics is obviously very personal. If I were a critic I would be a bit miffed by what he says. His view on food interesting. Why don’t they keep the bars open after a play at the NT? And offer snacks? Often I would have liked to stay and chat to friends after a show but had to scurry back to the tube. Could Mr Hare also have a chat with tfl about keeping the tube running later...
I like the idea of a writers' room and ongoing support for writers. Seems obvious to me.
Now...state theatre? Hmm. No. I don’t have to point out the painfully obvious, do I? Brecht anyone? He had to leave his country. And we would all love Trump Theatre. In the U.K. we have a blissful mix of the commercial and state subsidy. Some of you think the NT and the RSC get too much. But when the state opts put, then these companies do have a choice of continuing in some way. No, I don’t like all the shows in the West End being 'owned' by the same people but I would not like the state to dictate the Theatre I see. Chilling prospect. And I don’t think in honesty it is what Hare actually means in this piece.
What does he mean by Thatcher living on public money? Her salary? What's wrong with that? Corbyn is also paid a salary isn’t he? She was married to a bloke who could provide the finer things in life and I believe she was supported by friends in her final illness. I’m at a loss to see what he is getting at there.
What he is describing is not so much ideal as his own fantasy Theatre, run by someone like him, only under 30 ( I’m laughing here) actually, like he was when he wrote antiestablishment pieces that were ok until he realised he could write proper plays that people would want to see. Then he stopped. I very much admire his work before the politics dominated it. He could really write and touch the heart.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 16:06:31 GMT
"David Hare: my ideal theatre"
WHY was this published? Does he have a new book coming out?
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Post by foxa on Jan 1, 2018 11:46:54 GMT
I think it's an interesting exercise - the problem though (to me) is that these things often hark back to a supposed golden age (as we do on this forum, frequently, when bemoaning a theatre that we think has gone off in some way.) I get a bit weary of the 'Oh, the Liverpool Everyman in the 70s was wonderful and we loved eating boiled eggs' - just because how could that possibly be recreated in a way that wouldn't seem as phony as anything now? Theatre will change and evolve. And I was surprised he was so down on site specific theatre, which I often enjoy, but I (like Lynette above) like the idea of a writers' room - and the feeling that everyone in the theatre had a stake in the success of what occurs in the building/onstage.
In case, anyone wants to make a proposal for their own ideal theatre, his headings are (the order amused me - actors and audience are very low on the list):
Location
Playing space
Size
Policy
Staffing
The state
Touring
School
Playwrights
Workshop/Readings
Actors
Audience
Site Specific
Critics
Restaurants/Bars
Effect
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