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Post by gra on Sept 16, 2017 11:53:19 GMT
Certainly he has done amazing things, and taken huge quality theatre round the world. That's what I thought, before watching the programme. But when you see his entire career laid out together in this programme, you realise he's produced a load of crap, albeit to high, perfectionist, standards. Could you elaborate? I can think of very few CM productions I would describe as 'crap' |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 12:24:03 GMT
That's what I thought, before watching the programme. But when you see his entire career laid out together in this programme, you realise he's produced a load of crap, albeit to high, perfectionist, standards. Could you elaborate? I can think of very few CM productions I would describe as 'crap' I think they're referring to subject matter or the basis for alot of productions.... eg Cats - basically a compilation of songs, without any real story, sung by adults in cat costume. Starlight - Adults on Rollerskates pretending to be trains racing. Not exactly War & Peace. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 13:19:46 GMT
cameron didnt produce starlight.
People may mock cats now but it was revolutionary at the time and he took a massive risk. Im not sure it would get produced today if it were a new musical
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 10:51:19 GMT
Cameron Mackintosh's lifelong enthusiasm for the theatre was inspired by Salad Days.
I saw the Union Theatre's production of Salad Days last week at Theatre Royal Bath, and his love of this show should have been a dreadful warning to everyone of the worthless content which is to his taste.
I can't get the Salad Days tunes out of my head now...
It would have been so much more worthwhile if Cameron Mackintosh had lavished his talents on intelligent theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 13:45:34 GMT
Worthwhile to you personally, to theatre-lovers, or to the human race in general? I would imagine it's been financially worthwhile to him. After all, not all of us can afford to have a garden big enough to fit an elephant in. But he does.
At least you regonise the fact that he has some talents. Probably more than a lot of us on here. I mean, I don't suppose he spends much time sitting around on his arse thinking up witticisms to post on the internet. He's either putting on a show, or sitting on his arse drinking champagne, probably in that big garden in the summer months.
If only we were all intelligent enough to understand your point...
Some things seem way, way better from down here.
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Post by gra on Sept 17, 2017 14:46:06 GMT
Cameron Mackintosh's lifelong enthusiasm for the theatre was inspired by Salad Days. I saw the Union Theatre's production of Salad Days last week at Theatre Royal Bath, and his love of this show should have been a dreadful warning to everyone of the worthless content which is to his taste. I can't get the Salad Days tunes out of my head now... It would have been so much more worthwhile if Cameron Mackintosh had lavished his talents on intelligent theatre. Not sure if this post is pro or anti 'Salad Days' The fact is this musical ran for more than 2000 performances in the 1950s. It resonated with the public mood only a few years after the war when innocent, gentle escapism and singable tunes were appreciated in musical theatre. I can definitely understand how it inspired the young Cameron. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 14:47:03 GMT
Edit: I meant 'recognize', of course... I told you I wasn't intelligent.
But I'm still enjoying life from down here. You can very often see what others can't. For instance, I bet you can't see your own head up your arse.
I can.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2017 15:20:29 GMT
For instance, I bet you can't see your own head up your arse. No one can see their own head, can they? |
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Post by danb on Sept 17, 2017 15:38:55 GMT
I'm lost in double negatives here...
Above all else, regardless of opinions of his productions, he puts his money where his mouth is and has rescued many a dillapidated theatre from falling down. Not only do his own shows have high production values, but you'll often find that 'The Mackintosh Foundation' has had a producing hand in stuff that would not have got off the ground otherwise.
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Post by Jon on Sept 17, 2017 16:45:04 GMT
Cameron's work on his theatres is impressive and it always continue to improve them, The Novello and Prince of Wales are much better than what they like previously and even the ones with more minor refurbs like the Noel Coward or the Wyndham's are fantastic. I think his commitment to restoring his theatre kickstarted over theatre owners to do the same
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Post by stuartmcd on Sept 17, 2017 19:55:11 GMT
Just watching this now and it was quite torturous to see how gutted the Victoria Palace was and how much work it must be taking to get it ready for Hamilton. It’s truly a complete renovation. At least the toilets are done
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 18, 2017 19:24:42 GMT
Really, I think only the most mean spirited could slag him off for putting his efforts into something he loves. If you don't like big production musicals, don't see them. Not difficult.
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Post by kathryn on Sept 18, 2017 20:10:42 GMT
Just watched this. Anyone else slightly disappointed that his dairy farms are producing cheese, rather than interval ice cream?
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Post by Jon on Sept 18, 2017 20:15:02 GMT
Just watched this. Anyone else slightly disappointed that his dairy farms are producing cheese, rather than interval ice cream? He's probably happy with his current supplier! And I imagine cheese is more profitable than ice cream. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 3:10:15 GMT
Just watched this. Anyone else slightly disappointed that his dairy farms are producing cheese, rather than interval ice cream? No, not surprised that the producer of Half a Sixpence is producing cheese. Quite appropriate, really. |
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Post by queenie on Sept 19, 2017 4:28:32 GMT
I watched Imagine last night, and I'm sure it was an old programme "topped and tailed" by Images of "Half a sixpence". I've certainly seen most of it before. I thought exactly the same Hulmey, it looked so familiar.
The insights of him as a child impresario, Darryl F Mackinstosh, were a bit scary, as though he was on a predetermined path.
Think it did have an angle to show him as a bit dramatic and difficult. But thought the section about his and Michael's relationship was nicely done.
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Post by loureviews on Sept 23, 2017 21:29:11 GMT
Just watched this. He comes across as he always has, driven, devoted to his theatres, his shows, and his associates, and the bit where he talked about meeting Michael was so sweet and lovely. I think he's a one off and if he is a control freak, then he tries to guarantee quality and has certainly done much to enrich the cultural fabric of musicals. Although it rather glossed over the fact he's had quite a few failures since Cats, it was an excellent profile.
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