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Post by Polly1 on Feb 22, 2016 14:42:17 GMT
Sorry, I know Cumberbatch only won due to the sheer number of his fans, but I don't think I can let the comment above that he wore an earpiece go unremarked upon - it's patent nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 15:47:07 GMT
"You must log in to continue" Seems oddly familiar, somehow…
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 15:53:22 GMT
I guess the What's On Stage Awards are equivalent to Drama Desk Awards? Or the Smash Hits Awards?
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Post by caa on Feb 22, 2016 15:54:48 GMT
If the Oliver Awards are the British equivalent of the American Tony Awards. I guess the What's On Stage Awards are equivalent to Drama Desk Awards? The WOS stage awards remind me of the TV Choice awards. The Olivier Awards like to think that they are the Tonys, but really are more like the Evening Standard awards. The only awards I respect are the Critics Choice Awards but winning one of them is fairly meaningless to most people.
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Post by Snciole on Feb 22, 2016 18:20:06 GMT
"You must log in to continue" Seems oddly familiar, somehow… Only worth signing up if you are really desperate to see my profile pic, which I took in the Royal Court toilets...
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Post by cherokee on Feb 22, 2016 19:01:36 GMT
Sorry, I know Cumberbatch only won due to the sheer number of his fans, but I don't think I can let the comment above that he wore an earpiece go unremarked upon - it's patent nonsense. Oh it's been a very well-kept secret but plenty of industry people know about it. All the cast and crew were aware that he had a bit of help.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 22, 2016 20:26:26 GMT
Sorry, I know Cumberbatch only won due to the sheer number of his fans, but I don't think I can let the comment above that he wore an earpiece go unremarked upon - it's patent nonsense. Oh it's been a very well-kept secret but plenty of industry people know about it. All the cast and crew were aware that he had a bit of help. I think I'd say an actual earpiece with actual talking coming out of it was more than a "bit of help". I could probably have a fair old crack at Hamlet meself with an earpiece. Can't be that hard!
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Post by Polly1 on Feb 22, 2016 22:00:37 GMT
Sorry, I know Cumberbatch only won due to the sheer number of his fans, but I don't think I can let the comment above that he wore an earpiece go unremarked upon - it's patent nonsense. Oh it's been a very well-kept secret but plenty of industry people know about it. All the cast and crew were aware that he had a bit of help. I'm genuinely amazed that a production with that high a profile could have kept something like that so quiet. Also genuinely amazed if it's true.
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Post by alece10 on Feb 22, 2016 22:17:28 GMT
I wonder why Mel didn't present. Steve said she was just 2 weeks ago. They were meant to do a song I thought. Hope she's alright, she's got the Eurovision thing on Friday. Was it really a late minute cancellation? She is not mentioned at all in the programme, unless it was printed at the very last moment
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 23:32:39 GMT
Oh it's been a very well-kept secret but plenty of industry people know about it. All the cast and crew were aware that he had a bit of help. I'm genuinely amazed that a production with that high a profile could have kept something like that so quiet. Also genuinely amazed if it's true. Me too. I certainly wasn't aware of anything untoward the night I went... I was no fan of the production, but Cumberbatch looked ready to faint by the end, so it looked like he'd given it his all.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Feb 23, 2016 0:11:26 GMT
One of my friends worked on the production and says that's bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 9:53:46 GMT
I'm not sure having an argument about the possibility of this ear piece is going to prove at all productive - it's not like it's going to be your usual exchange of opinions where both sides of the debate get to hear and understand more about each other's viewpoint and although everyone comes out believing the same as they believed when they went in it was still a good discussion, is it? It's going to descend very quickly into "well, I know someone on the production who said there definitely was an ear piece" and "well, I know someone on the production who said there definitely wasn't an ear piece", and most people will never know which is true (though they'll have their suspicions and/or preferences), and ultimately I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually matter, so. I don't know, have the argument if you want, I guess, but no one's going to be convincing anyone of anything, are they?
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Post by cherokee on Feb 23, 2016 10:32:57 GMT
I'm not sure having an argument about the possibility of this ear piece is going to prove at all productive - it's not like it's going to be your usual exchange of opinions where both sides of the debate get to hear and understand more about each other's viewpoint and although everyone comes out believing the same as they believed when they went in it was still a good discussion, is it? It's going to descend very quickly into "well, I know someone on the production who said there definitely was an ear piece" and "well, I know someone on the production who said there definitely wasn't an ear piece", and most people will never know which is true (though they'll have their suspicions and/or preferences), and ultimately I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually matter, so. I don't know, have the argument if you want, I guess, but no one's going to be convincing anyone of anything, are they? I was shown a photo of Cumberbatch signing autographs at stage door after the show where you could clearly see that it was still in his ear. I'll see if I can dig it out and find it.
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Post by cherokee on Feb 23, 2016 10:33:53 GMT
One of my friends worked on the production and says that's bollocks. Which bit, Duchess, the bit about using an earpiece, the bit about him "giving his all, ready to faint," or did you mean that his readiness to faint was down to his pants being too tight? Clarity, please? BTW, I don't think he did use an earpiece, as his "to be, or not to be, cab to the airport for Mrs Jones, 16 Wellington Street, that is the question" came out loud and clear. And on earpieces, I challenged the PR at the Walliams "Dream" about his seeming to have something in his ear, and she was really uppity about it. I'm not suggesting he needed to be prompted on every single line. Presumably he was able to learn some of it at least.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Feb 23, 2016 10:38:46 GMT
I actually got to spend a bit of time in the rehearsal room for Hamlet and I don't believe there was ever an earpiece, especially seeing how hard he worked, but fine.
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Post by vickster51 on Feb 23, 2016 12:29:50 GMT
This surprises me too, as in all the years I've seen him on stage (pre Sherlock too before you wonder) he has always been superb. I thought the production was weak, but he was pretty good and I'd be amazed if this was true. Most of the cast were wearing mics, due to the lack of ability of most of them to project their voices and those mics were quite obvious if you were near the front. I was quite close and couldn't see an earpiece. I guess people will keep their own view on this either way.
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Post by Stasia on Feb 24, 2016 9:17:01 GMT
I was shown a photo of Cumberbatch signing autographs at stage door after the show where you could clearly see that it was still in his ear. I'll see if I can dig it out and find it. Seriously? You would think that a person using earpieces would be that careless that he would go out to see his fans (who would definitely examine every single hair in his nose) without taking out expensive and supposed-to-be-secret equipment? Am I the only one who doubts this can happen? I am also doubting that a trained professional actor can't learn the part, again, knowing that each end every day while going on stage he will have thousands eyes examining him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 9:45:09 GMT
Hahahaha! Yes, it's DEFINITELY more likely that there's a conspiracy to cover up that a professional actor can't do one of the most basic things a professional actor is called to do than that, say, said actor has a bluetooth device for his mobile phone that he made sure to put in his ear before leaving the theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 10:17:57 GMT
I was shown a photo of Cumberbatch signing autographs at stage door after the show where you could clearly see that it was still in his ear. I'll see if I can dig it out and find it. Seriously? You would think that a person using earpieces would be that careless that he would go out to see his fans (who would definitely examine every single hair in his nose) without taking out expensive and supposed-to-be-secret equipment? Am I the only one who doubts this can happen? I am also doubting that a trained professional actor can't learn the part, again, knowing that each end every day while going on stage he will have thousands eyes examining him. Believe me those fans catalogued and analysed every second of him at stage door (the particular nutty contingent obsessed with his marriage in particular) so they would have seen, shouted etc. Also given a) the hype b) the backlash I think the dirt would have been well a truly dug, and splashed over the internet/tabloids at the time if that were the case.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 24, 2016 11:12:44 GMT
Yup. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this 'earpiece' rubbish comes from the same contingent of amateur sleuths who think they can tell the state of someone's pregnancy and marriage from a few single-frame photographs of them at the side of the road taken from a long-lens camera and seem determined to find the worst possible interpretation of everything.
His Hamlet wasn't award-worthy, but he certainly wasn't using an earpiece.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Feb 24, 2016 14:35:13 GMT
Yup. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this 'earpiece' rubbish comes from the same contingent of amateur sleuths who think they can tell the state of someone's pregnancy and marriage from a few single-frame photographs of them at the side of the road taken from a long-lens camera and seem determined to find the worst possible interpretation of everything. His Hamlet wasn't award-worthy, but he certainly wasn't using an earpiece. Oh, those people are hilarious. I saw a few making long impassioned rants claiming that Marvel paid off Steve Furst and the other hosts to pretend that Cumberbatch is popular.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 24, 2016 14:57:12 GMT
They're hilarious right up until they're actively libelling people, which I have seen. They give 'fandom' a bad name.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 20:45:21 GMT
Maybe they meant codpiece instead.
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Post by theatremiss on Feb 26, 2016 15:47:14 GMT
Nicol Kidman. How tall is that woman!!! But amazing to see her there. . I was sat front row and when she walked onto the stage I thought exactly the same. She must have worn flats and walked in a hole all the time she was stood next to Cruise. One thing though.....ugly hands, like skeleton fingers. I really didn't like the Lady Gaga mash up. The only decent performance was Rob Houchen, the other guy was bent double all the time with a painful expression on his face, the first woman who came on sounded laboured and struggling and Alison Jihear (sp) looked like she'd walked in after taking a nap.
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