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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 28, 2017 19:23:56 GMT
Thank you CP for anticipating my last gasp. I'm not going to lower myself to rehearsing the arguments. I just think you might gain a better grasp of twentieth century history before you blame bbs for everything you can't sort out yourself. Interestingly, I heard on the radio the other day that this year and I presume the few years before and possibly after are another birth boom. Poor little sods will come in for all the blame no doubt circa 2077 Not having that, you post at least 20 years younger than a BB
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 28, 2017 19:29:59 GMT
Thank you CP for anticipating my last gasp. I'm not going to lower myself to rehearsing the arguments. I just think you might gain a better grasp of twentieth century history before you blame bbs for everything you can't sort out yourself. Interestingly, I heard on the radio the other day that this year and I presume the few years before and possibly after are another birth boom. Poor little sods will come in for all the blame no doubt circa 2077 My parents are in their mid to late seventies - always been relatively poor, never had the benefits of many of their contemporaries - and they have come to realise that they too have benefitted. My twentieth century history can be traced back through them, and back to my cotton millworking great grandparents from the 'Lost Generatiom' (first world war veterans, suffering from rickets through deprivation etc.), we are the product of those generations and carry their stories with us. All these generations desperately needed, and benefitted from, the introduction of the state pension. Before that was truly Dickensian but the system wasn't built to cope with this massive increase in pensioners and something needed to give long before it did. Now we have, for the first time, generations who will have a worse standard of living than their elders. To my parents, when they initially said that they personally weren't better off than those younger, I pointed out two things, job security and housing, They could buy a house, even with their low wages, and they paid off that mortgage by time they were fifty, they could walk out of a job one afternoon and into another the next day (and did!). They suffered somewhat during the Thatcher years but, even so, found jobs throughout periods of unstable employment. They just didn't realise how tough both those things now are for those at the same age as they were. It is nobody's fault that they were born in a population boom but it is their subsequent responsibility. (For what it is worth I am also a baby boomer albeit at the tale end, glancing Janus-like both at the older boomers on one side and the rest of the Generation Xers, Millenials and so on on the other). Beautifully debated TB'ers
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Post by lynette on Jun 28, 2017 19:36:48 GMT
Yeah, well, us bbs got us an edukashon...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 15:46:08 GMT
As an addendum, this chart showing voting differences by age shows just how serious the situation is getting. Just seven years ago the gap between the left leaning younger voter and the conservative leaning older voter was holding steady at around 15%. In this year's election there was a 71% difference. In words, just in case the enormity of that change didn't sink in, seventy one percent! If the issues underlying that created such a divide are not addressed by the current, or any future, government, we are headed into a potentially explosive period.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 29, 2017 20:08:19 GMT
As an addendum, this chart showing voting differences by age shows just how serious the situation is getting. Just seven years ago the gap between the left leaning younger voter and the conservative leaning older voter was holding steady at around 15%. In this year's election there was a 71% difference. In words, just in case the enormity of that change didn't sink in, seventy one percent! If the issues underlying that created such a divide are not addressed by the current, or any future, government, we are headed into a potentially explosive period.
Good graph and info that fella
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